Breaking news-Travelers flying from New York to Florida will be placed under 14-day quarantine,

[4077]

I am not headed that way (FL/Disney) anytime before next summer now, but I have been and come back. If driving, no problem... don’t enter FL on I95 if filling out paperwork after waiting on highway back up is your concern. Going around the I95 highway checkpoint is not illegal... not filling out paperwork about your phone number and destination does not relieve you of “legal” obligations, but you do not have to enter FL on I95.

On to opinion.. there are 100+ year old laws that are on the books all across the country that no one follows anymore because they have become pointless, useless, or ridiculous. The tri-state EO has reached that point 100 years sooner as can be seen by the one highway checkpoint, other hot spot areas not included, etc. By all means, keep out the “good states” lol. Disney is probably the safest place you could be right now. No one knows how long you have been out of tri state area before you check in unless they have a bank of Disney CM’s calling airlines with your info to see when you left said states. All of this opening and closing and other crap would not be needed if everyone just wore the mask when indoors or unable to maintain social distance and practiced distance and hygiene. There will always be some cases, but this would help all this silliness. In any case, if you have been doing what you should be personally doing for the safety of yourself and others, you will be just as safe doing it as Disney as at home. There is no where you can go without a slight risk, nor can staying gone in your own state make a zero risk. If you keep using good practices and go to a place like Disney where those practices will be enforced stronger than most areas, your risk will be not much different than if you stay home and keep going to grocery stores, target, your local outdoor park or anything else. All this EO and such as far as who can go where and a quarantine is pointless back and forth stuff between governors and other officials. If you have symptoms...if you have had contact with known carrying individuals or those who have become sick recently, then absolutely go ahead and quarantine. Otherwise, IMO, go enjoy your trip (if you had one planned). Some people will hate on this and say “oh you’re breaking the law or endangering others”.. bull! I took all the same precautions and measures with washing, masks, and distancing that I took (and am still taking) at home. The results at Disney and in FL were the same there as at home. My risk to myself or others was the same there as at home.

Now, if you say you want to go to a mask less, packed bar party with 500 of your closest, previously unknown friends squished shoulder to shoulder...well,good luck with that... that is dumb. If you wNt to visit Disney or FL and practice properly to keep yourself and others safe, I say go for it regardless of your state of origin. If you manage your risk properly, then your risk to yourselves or others will be no different no matter where you currently are or where you can from.
Whew.. I think I can finally say that I said my piece that I have wanted to say for a long time.. done with this now.

 

[JimMIA]

I think the bigger issue for a lot of people from up here is that we now have to quarantine for 14 days AFTER returning from Florida, or other state on the mandatory quarantine list. Can you take two additional weeks off of work after returning?

Hubby's company, based in NY, has already sent out a letter to the employees informing them that if they travel or vacation in one of those 19 states, Florida included, that they will have to mandatory quarantine without pay upon returning. Everyone who has a vacation scheduled needs to talk to HR.

^^^^^This.

I personally agree with the approach NY and others are taking -- BUT... The bolded part above is the part that all of you folks are forgetting.

While I agree the policies of NY and other states are wise -- those policies DO dramatically limit your vacation choices if you follow them. You could also have a situation where the state you're visiting gets added to the list while you are away -- and have a surprise 14-day quarantine.

The other point is there is no difference between the policies of those states and Florida. For all the fake drama, NO STATE is preventing anyone from entering their state. They are simply saying there are public health restrictions on your movement within the state. That is what Florida has always said, that's what New York is saying, etc. No difference.

 

[pooch]

The difference is that the tri-states are quarantining travel from the new hot spots. Florida is quarantining the only area that has shown it has its covid act together. If that isn’t political, I don’t know what is.

 

[JimMIA]

The difference is that the tri-states are quarantining travel from the new hot spots. Florida is quarantining the only area that has shown it has its covid act together. If that isn’t political, I don’t know what is.

That's a matter of opinion, and we have some Floridians who say the NY, NJ, etc restrictions are political payback.

I don't think any of them are political.

I think you have governors from various states, and from both political parties, doing the best they can to protect their citizens.

The problem for the northern states is that you had the highest rates of infection per million, the most cases, and unfortunately the most deaths and deaths per million. That means you had a TON of people exposed to the virus. With our rising case numbers, we are also moving into that uncomfortable territory, and so your state rightly put restrictions on us.

But the critical facts to remember are

• NOBODY knows who is currently infected. You may have tested negative last week and be infected today.
• Nobody knows if antibodies give any protection, if so to what degree, or for how long.
• So nobody knows whether or not anyone is contagious now.

One other important fact is that it doesn't matter what any of us think about the various restrictions. The situation is what it is.

If it inconveniences anyone, we're all sorry for you, but it doesn't matter. It is what it is.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

It doesn’t make sense that the states where cases are rising like crazy, like Texas and Arizona aren’t on Florida’s quarantine list. Sound political to me

 

[glocker]

That's a matter of opinion, and we have some Floridians who say the NY, NJ, etc restrictions are political payback.

I don't think any of them are political.

I think you have governors from various states, and from both political parties, doing the best they can to protect their citizens.

The problem for the northern states is that you had the highest rates of infection per million, the most cases, and unfortunately the most deaths and deaths per million. That means you had a TON of people exposed to the virus. With our rising case numbers, we are also moving into that uncomfortable territory, and so your state rightly put restrictions on us.

But the critical facts to remember are

• NOBODY knows who is currently infected. You may have tested negative last week and be infected today.
• Nobody knows if antibodies give any protection, if so to what degree, or for how long.
• So nobody knows whether or not anyone is contagious now.

One other important fact is that it doesn't matter what any of us think about the various restrictions. The situation is what it is.

If it inconveniences anyone, we're all sorry for you, but it doesn't matter. It is what it is.

Sorry. Not buyin' it. We've been through this before. By your fuzzy logic, until there is a vaccine, NY will/should be banned from every state...because they WERE a hot spot months ago?!? We have been/are testing way more than Florida and are just around 1% positive. We follow safety protocols that have been well established and are considered a model of what to do to beat this. Our numbers are CRUSHING Florida's. Texas is in bad shape, yet they are allowed to travel freely. Sorry, but this is political to the core!
That said, I cancelled my Disney vacation because Florida is the new epicenter, and I don't want to expose my family, nor my neighbors in NY to anything we might pick up. I do not say this happily, and I hope that everyone who attends Disney (and everyone in Florida) does so responsibly and comes away unscathed.

 

[frannn]

How is it that no states other than the tri-state area are being quarantined by Florida? So, under this logic, everyone else with chart topping positives are welcomed with open arms into FL (Texas, etc), but the states who are currently not at issue must not enter? I would imagine this is part of the reason why the FL numbers are so high now. Desantis needs to address his reasoning.

 

[glocker]

How is it that no states other than the tri-state area are being quarantined by Florida? So, under this logic, everyone else with chart topping positives are welcomed with open arms into FL (Texas, etc), but the states who are currently not at issue must not enter? I would imagine this is part of the reason why the FL numbers are so high now. Desantis needs to address his reasoning.

News flash: he won't.

 

[Cygnus 2112]

DeSantis’ order is dumb and seems (to me) to defy logic. And I consider myself a conservative who lives in NY!

 

[Tonberry]

I can't speak for NY or NJ, but Connecticut has been holding steady at only 0.8% infection rate for weeks, with no deaths in the past 48 hours, and thousands of more tests being done every day. You can't say it's not political by looking at the stats.
Oh well. It was the final nail in the coffin for our trip.

 

[Meglen]

I can't speak for NY or NJ, but Connecticut has been holding steady at only 0.8% infection rate for weeks, with no deaths in the past 48 hours, and thousands of more tests being done every day. You can't say it's not political by looking at the stats.
Oh well. It was the final nail in the coffin for our trip.

From CT as well it's a shame the rest of the states didn't do as well. I hope they can get there act together.

 

[pooch]

Not political? Sure when he adds red states Texas and Arizona.
You’ve been keeping us out since the early stages so we wouldn’t bring it down with us. So I guess your rising numbers came from somewhere else!

 

[frannn]

Political or not, guess he doesn't want to add tri-state money to the deep tourism deficit sinking Florida economy. I wouldn't have issue at the Covid levels back in March, but this has no valid arguement to continue. It is taking away DVC owners ability to use their points and AP holders the ability to utilize their passes. Aren't these legal damages?

 

[mrsap]

Hey guys... I’m going to just copy and paste my post from another board...

Since there was still no update on the website, I decided to call the phone number at the bottom of the COVID page...

The woman I spoke with, who was very nice I must say, explained that when Louisiana was lifted from the quarantine, the July 7th expiration date for NY/NJ/CT was also lifted. Now, the official expiration date for the quarantine is September 5th, unless it is lifted at some point. Here’s the number if anyone wants to call themselves: 1 (866) 779-6121

I didn’t want to believe it, but now I have no choice.

I’m just so sad right now

 

[npatellye]

Hey guys... I’m going to just copy and paste my post from another board...

Since there was still no update on the website, I decided to call the phone number at the bottom of the COVID page...

The woman I spoke with, who was very nice I must say, explained that when Louisiana was lifted from the quarantine, the July 7th expiration date for NY/NJ/CT was also lifted. Now, the official expiration date for the quarantine is September 5th, unless it is lifted at some point. Here’s the number if anyone wants to call themselves: 1 (866) 779-6121

I didn’t want to believe it, but now I have no choice.

I’m just so sad right now

I am right there with you on being sad. But I’m also infuriated that, in spite of actual positivity rates, we are still under this order while actual hotspots of community spread are not.

I just keep reminding myself that I’m saving more by not going this August.

 

[mrsap]

I am right there with you on being sad. But I’m also infuriated that, in spite of actual positivity rates, we are still under this order while actual hotspots of community spread are not.

I just keep reminding myself that I’m saving more by not going this August.

Unfortunately, I am DVC and have points expiring in September (so I can’t even add them onto my November trip as of now.) I’m trying to call as I type this. Not sure what’s going to happen with my annual pass, either. So upsetting.

 

[everreal15]

Unfortunately, I am DVC and have points expiring in September (so I can’t even add them onto my November trip as of now.) I’m trying to call as I type this. Not sure what’s going to happen with my annual pass, either. So upsetting.

I feel so bad for everyone caught up in this. Especially DVC members that aren't being given an alternative way to re-coop their points. Maybe Disney will work something out with the DVC members to extending their points or something. Probably a long shot but just trying to be hopeful.

Fortuntaley our trip isnt until September 16th and if this order gets extended a third time and our numbers are still trending like they are now for NY I may have a meltdown. *sigh*.... In actuality I would just try and move my dates again...for the 3rd or 4th time. #itsgonnabefine

 

[npatellye]

Unfortunately, I am DVC and have points expiring in September (so I can’t even add them onto my November trip as of now.) I’m trying to call as I type this. Not sure what’s going to happen with my annual pass, either. So upsetting.

I’m SO sorry! We have a December UY so we are on edge that Thanksgiving may not happen and we would be out of luck. I truly hope they can make an exception for you!

 

[JimMIA]

I agree with you folks on Texas, Arizona, and California (and maybe some other states) needing to be added to Florida's list, but I can give you a perfect personal (not something I saw on some Twit's post) example of why the NE states are still on the list.

Yesterday and today, my DD had plans. Her boyfriend was to pick her up yesterday morning, they were going to pick up their HS yearbooks and have lunch. Then today, he was coming over and they were to spend the day chilling by the pool. Both days were with masks and social distancing.

He called yesterday morning and said he could not come either day -- his sister had tested positive. They've been as strict as we have so we wondered how that happened.

Turns out, his aunt came down from NYC on Thursday, en route to South America. She had covid in NYC, but was "over it"...she told them (later!). She stayed two nights, leaving Saturday.

Sunday, the sister was feeling bad (cough, sore throat), got tested, and the test came back positive yesterday. His whole family (him, Mom, and another aunt who lives with them) got tested yesterday and should have their results Friday.

Just because your new cases are low right now does NOT mean you don't have a lot of people walking around who are still contagious...no matter what you find said on some Facebook or Twit post. The truth is scientists don't know how long a person is contagious, whether antibodies provide any immunity at all, etc. There is an enormous amount of knowledge missing on this disease because it is still very new.

Again, I'm sorry if it messes you up, but the situation is what it is.

*****
One question for the DVC folks. Can you deposit your points into RCI? RCI has some really great resorts in some wonderful locations, and is very easy to use.

 

[Cygnus 2112]

Sorry for asking something that may be posted elsewhere- is it too late to get the AP refund for the closure? We’re probably not going in August now and we’re trying to strategize. I also imagine our expiring DVC points are lost