Brawl at Test Track-Epcot

[Kalliope]

We don't rush into the room either, there's plenty of room available to let everyone swarm to the front stations and then take the last one.

Your design station is the same number as the numbered dot you were standing on when you were lined up in the room prior.

 

[Feralpeg]

When I went through CM training, we were told we were never to touch a guest for any reason. We were to call a manager or security. If you touch a guest, it could put Disney in the position of being sued.

Glad I never had to worry about this. It would be very hard to stand by while people were hurting each other.

 

[rucifee]

Your design station is the same number as the numbered dot you were standing on when you were lined up in the room prior.

Which doesn't make a darned bit of difference. People will go wherever they want and do whatever they want regardless of what the little number says. Anyhow, should probably let the thread get back on track, don't make me put my goofy hat on!

 

[declansdad]

I could be way off base, but I took that to mean nobody sued anybody.

Apparently not.

Yes.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[Kalliope]

Which doesn't make a darned bit of difference. People will go wherever they want and do whatever they want regardless of what the little number says.

Every time we've ridden the new TT, our group has filed in orderly and stood at their designated design station.

 

[rucifee]

Every time we've ridden the new TT, our group has filed in orderly and stood at their designated design station.

A few times that's been the case for us, but for the most part it's a free for all. Even if we do go to an assigned number, there has always been space for the two of us to duck to the side and let everyone else past. Beats getting smacked with an umbrella. LOL

 

[Arielle22]

Without any discussion? What if the employee was an exemplary employee?

If an employee breaks a hard and fast rule then they are no longer an exemplary employee. If you have a video showing exactly what happened, what is there to discuss?

 

[design_mom]

We don't rush into the room either, there's plenty of room available to let everyone swarm to the front stations and then take the last one. Go into the design station, slide to the left, wait, take the station you're standing next to. Last out after you're done, and no drama.

But, aren't you assigned your design station prior to entering the design studio? The CMs make you stand on a numbered dot. Then you file into the studio in an orderly fashion and go to the corresponding design station (dot 2 = design station 2). In that case, if you're at station 2, you're kind of blocking everyone at stations 3-6 if you don't go out of the room.

Are you saying that if you're standing on dot number 2, you step aside when you enter the studio. That puts the people who were on dot 3 at design station 2, and dot 4 at design station 3, etc... and then you take design station 6? That sounds like it would work as long as two groups don't try it... and you don't get someone who insists on keeping the design station they were "assigned." (I'll admit, I would be reluctant to take station 2, if I was "assigned" station 3 because I would not know why you have stepped aside (need to ask a question?) and would worry you'd be coming back asking for your assigned station.)

 

[3smithboys]

I have a feeling that if the CM just stood there talking to these women and they hurt anyone in line, people would be asking why he just stood there and did nothing...regardless of what he is told to do. Then we would have people who would say that if it was them, they would break the rules in the interest of public safety....

 

[Wendy31]

Regarding the cast member possibly being in trouble and even fired for trying to break the up the fight, the same sort of thing is being discussed in the recent Chattanooga shooting, but on a much larger & more tragic scale.

According to some reports, 2 of the Marines who died engaged the shooter w/ their personal firearms - which they weren't supposed to have. Additionally, at least one of the survivors did as well, & there are "rumors" that he will be disciplined since he also wasn't supposed to have a firearm w/ him. Most everyone, of course (myself included) feels it would be an horrible injustice to discipline the survivor & that his & the others' actions helped save many people - including both other military members & civilians that were in the surrounding areas. However, the military has even stricter rules & protocol than does Disney.

I can't imagine that, as a castmember, you just stand idly by while a brawl occurs & wait for security - especially if bystanders are endangered by the brawl in the close quarters. But I also see corporate's side as well - When the castmember steps in & puts his hands on the girl, he's opening both himself & Disney to various lawsuits, even if those lawsuits are silly & unfounded.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Don't hold your breath.

If I see a fight breaking out, I would grab the kids in my party and get out of the way. It would never occur to me to expect some young college kid to jump in and protect us.

Why would a ride CM risk getting hurt and/ or fired?

What if, you are in an area, where you can't get out of the way? We have been in a similar situation. A packed hub...waiting for Wishes. DH stood in front of me and an elderly man in a wheelchair . I was trying to protect my disabled brother...wall to wall people. CM's huddled nearby and did NOTHING. Security NEVER showed up.

Disney does a poor job in these situations IMO

 

[DeluxePrincess]

As a former teacher, I knew the CM was going to have some trouble with Disney as soon as he restrained Goofy. He made the right call, but sadly his job is now in jeopardy because of it. I'm pretty sure this wasn't the first brawl for Poppins & Goofy.

 

[JimmyV]

Does anyone know what month umbrella-wielding idiots go to WDW so that I can avoid them? Sort of puts into perspective the "annoyance" of foreign teenagers chanting and having a good time, doesn't it.

 

[declansdad]

If an employee breaks a hard and fast rule then they are no longer an exemplary employee. If you have a video showing exactly what happened, what is there to discuss?

A good employer would only use a one strike and you're out rule on something truly grievous. If you have one that has never had a problem, you should be not be automatically firing them without examining the circumstances of the incident.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

I have a feeling that if the CM just stood there talking to these women and they hurt anyone in line, people would be asking why he just stood there and did nothing...regardless of what he is told to do. Then we would have people who would say that if it was them, they would break the rules in the interest of public safety....

But it's easy to judge and claim anything you want from behind a keyboard. I am in total agreement with you as well.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

A good employer would only use a one strike and you're out rule on something truly grievous. If you have that has never had a problem, you should be not be automatically firing them without examining the circumstances of the incident.

But, this more than likely will be viewed by the powers that be as very grievous. This opens Disney up to liability issues whether any of us agree with it or not.

 

[Sue M]

Trash . Article says no one was asked to leave the park. They should have been escorted out.

 

[asta]

At TT in the design room, that means you are impeding all the people behind you, who are then trying to dodge the group across from them trying to file out at the same time.

We just stayed close to our terminal and waited. I never felt like we were impeding anyone. Waiting to leave the room is not in my nature so we had to make an effort to hang back but it was so much better. At another ride a CM actually approached us and thanked us for letting others go first. My daughters laughed because they know my nature is to get anxious and try to go out with the crowd.

 

[Mouse Man]

And here I am telling my son I wasn't buying him a Goofy hat because it would just fall off his head all day! Son, next year, it's all yours!

 

[FlightlessDuck]

As a former teacher, I knew the CM was going to have some trouble with Disney as soon as he restrained Goofy.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here: Is there an article indicating this employee got in trouble? I haven't seen one.