Boys in the Women's Bathroom

I have a boy who recently turned 5. He has clearly expressed that "I am a boy and I'm using the boy's bathroom". Alrighty then...:rotfl: If DH isn't with me, I stand outside the door and wait. He's gone into bathrooms before where the paper was too high for him to reach...I'd hear him asking some man in the bathroom to get him some paper. Apparently, he's OK. :rotfl2:
 
In today's world, you cannot be too careful with children at any age. We have our son's use the companion/family restrooms when available. If DH is with us, they will go with him. If no DH or companion/family restroom, they use men's room but go into stall and do not use urinal. This works for us.:goodvibes
 
I don't have a problem sending my 6.5 year old into the men's restroom, because I can stand outside and watch the door, know if it's taking too long, etc... my problem is when *I* need to use the restroom... he's got to come in with me b/c I'm not going to leave him standing outside waiting for me alone.
 
In the lengthy Community Board thread there was a general consensus that as long as you are comfortable bringing the child into the stall with you then it's OK. If they are too old to go into the stall with you, they are too old to go into the bathroom.
 

In the lengthy Community Board thread there was a general consensus that as long as you are comfortable bringing the child into the stall with you then it's OK. If they are too old to go into the stall with you, they are too old to go into the bathroom.

this sounds like a great rule of thumb!
 
My personal feeling is that once they start grade school they should be capable of using a busy public restroom unaccompanied, and quite frankly, I think that being molested by a stranger at WDW is probably statistically less likely than being molested by an older child in a school restroom.

There is always more safety in numbers than in solitude. At least 300 people an hour probably use the average restroom in a Disney park. With that kind of traffic there is simply no privacy to carry out this kind of thing without getting caught very quickly. Do you really think that all those fathers wouldn't intervene if there was something untoward happening to a child in a men's room? I know that my DH would, in a heartbeat, and so would just about any other Dad I know.

Now, if you are speaking of a highway rest stop or an isolated bathroom in a park, then yes, be as paranoid as you like. *I* won't even use that sort of restroom alone without searching it for anyone lurking first, car keys spread between my knuckles just in case.

BTW, my DH mentioned something to me the other day about boys being told to use the "family" restrooms at sports facilities. In many cases, the family restrooms also serve as family changing rooms. DH is the parent who takes our DD5 to swim lessons, and she needs help changing out of a wet swimsuit and washing her hair. DH tells me that 8 times out of 10, when she gets out of the water he has to leave her in her wet suit all the way home, as there is almost always a long line of older boys waiting to use the toilet in that room -- because their mothers won't let them use the toilets in the men's room. According to the Y's rules, she is too old to go into the men's locker room, and DH feels that rule is appropriate, as it isn't fair to either her or the men in there to create that kind of discomfort. The only other alternative is stripping her down in a hallway somewhere, and he naturally doesn't want to do that.
 
I just started letting my newly turned 6 year old son use the men's room by himself. I would not let him at Disney just yet. But I did let him at Target the other day when it was not very busy. I stood outside the door and when we he went in, I said (quite loudly) "I am right outside the door waiting for you."
About 2 minutes later, a dad came out and said "he is washing his hands and he was very well behaved"
 
I have a boy who recently turned 5. He has clearly expressed that "I am a boy and I'm using the boy's bathroom". Alrighty then...:rotfl: If DH isn't with me, I stand outside the door and wait. He's gone into bathrooms before where the paper was too high for him to reach...I'd hear him asking some man in the bathroom to get him some paper. Apparently, he's OK. :rotfl2:

Age aside....a child should be able to completely take care if their own needs to go into a bathroom alone. I could not count how many times a little girl has asked me for help. One asked me to wipe her....uhhhhh NO. Many kids have asked me pick them up to help them reach the sink to wash hand...ummmm NO not going to pick up someone else child. I will hand them soap, or a paper towel or go outside and tell the parent that the child needs help.

Girls with dads are hard and not a lot of answers. Do not recommend what one grandpa did at walmart. I walked in to find a older man standing in the women's bathroom. I checked that I was not in the wrong one....then he spoke up and said that he was on his first trip to wal-mart alone with his grand-daughter and she had to potty and this was all he could think of!! Did not bother me in the least but I can image some of the reactions he would have gotten out of a lot of people!!!!
 
Nchulka, you just have all the answers don't you? Does it help you to feel so superior? Wow! I can't believe anyone would post something like that.

I don't think what she said is wrong. We as parents do have these irrational fears and at times the do effect the kids. At some point we do have to let go and let our snowflakes go and learn some responsibility.
 
Nchulka, you just have all the answers don't you? Does it help you to feel so superior? Wow! I can't believe anyone would post something like that.

While I agree that it was a bit more blunt than I am comfortable with, I don't think it was superior and I agree with the basic idea. If they can go to the bathroom at school, they are capable of going on thier own everywhere. We as parents decide where WE are comfortable allowing that.
 
I think that for me, if I don't take some chances and allow some indepenence then I am failing my kid. The world is full of risk and we simply cannot shield them from all of it all the time and expect them to become functioning adults. In reality,this is EXTREMELY low on the risk spectrum but in our minds as parents it has taken on epic proportion. The number of kids harmed by and adult becuase they went to the bathroom alone is orders of magnitude less than those harmed becuase they played sports, went to school, were scouts, or any number of other things, but we don't think twice about allowing those things. I have to wonder why that is? Why is the bathroom so taboo, but other higher risk locations ok? What is it about our society that attaches molestors to public restrooms? I have always found it interesting that THIS is the hot button topic, nad molestors are always brought up, but no one thinks twice about thier sports coach, sout leader, realtives, ect being alone with their child. THESE are statistically much more likely to be where the threat comes form than someone lurking in a restroom, but we focus all our energy on the unknown stranger, and not on those our kids know and trust.

I am a little exhausted on this topic but here goes....



Why does one always bring up the unknown stranger vs the person we know and trust as if you are cautious about the one you will not be cautious about the other?????


I take precautions everywhere with my kids. Accidents happen but I make sure my car is in good shape, have them wear seatbelts, car seats (when they were little) etc, all to minimize the risk!

I have them wear helmets when biking bc even though I never wore one as a kid and never got a head injury, it has now been deemed safer for them to ride with a helmet, all to minimize risk, but actually how many head injuries really occurred probably quite a low number since we all survived childhood.


Now onto the coaches etc, I only sign my kids up for activities that have strict background checks. Up to a certain age, I dont leave them alone at practices or games. I talked to them about inappropriate touch. And when I, me the parent deems it appopriate, not some magical age that society says, it is based off of maturity and situational, I will allow them to stay at practice without me. But I talk to them about being safe.

I do/did (my boys are old enough now), I talked to my boys about the stranger in the bathroom as well as the one driving along the road asking for a lost puppy. I have talked about men who like to expose themselves to young boys etc. But until I, me the parent feels that my child is capable of handling these situations, I will do what I need to do to minimize the risk. If that means taking him into a restroom so be it.

None of these are mutually exclusive...I hate when the assumption is that bc some parents fear the bathroom too much they dont think about the people close to them.

Also to the poster that says nothing has ever happened in a WDW restroom, I certainly dont want my child to be the first. And with the reports of security guards dealing in child porn, I dont think WDW is the safe bubble some people think it is.
 
I read (and commented) on the other thread. I've finally come to this conclusion: as a parent, you have to do what you think is best for your kids. You also have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. You may get funny looks or comments. Your decision may have long-term impacts on your child that you can't see right now. But if you think you are doing the right thing, it shouldn't bother you.

You also have to realize that other parents are doing what they think is right for their kids, which may lead to some of the comments you might get (example: a shy little girl who can't go because a boy is standing outside and can see through the crack, so the other mother asks your son to move). Something the Dis has taught me is there is no right answer for parenting.
 
I am a little exhausted on this topic but here goes....



Why does one always bring up the unknown stranger vs the person we know and trust as if you are cautious about the one you will not be cautious about the other?????


I take precautions everywhere with my kids. Accidents happen but I make sure my car is in good shape, have them wear seatbelts, car seats (when they were little) etc, all to minimize the risk!

I have them wear helmets when biking bc even though I never wore one as a kid and never got a head injury, it has now been deemed safer for them to ride with a helmet, all to minimize risk, but actually how many head injuries really occurred probably quite a low number since we all survived childhood.


Now onto the coaches etc, I only sign my kids up for activities that have strict background checks. Up to a certain age, I dont leave them alone at practices or games. I talked to them about inappropriate touch. And when I, me the parent deems it appopriate, not some magical age that society says, it is based off of maturity and situational, I will allow them to stay at practice without me. But I talk to them about being safe.

I do/did (my boys are old enough now), I talked to my boys about the stranger in the bathroom as well as the one driving along the road asking for a lost puppy. I have talked about men who like to expose themselves to young boys etc. But until I, me the parent feels that my child is capable of handling these situations, I will do what I need to do to minimize the risk. If that means taking him into a restroom so be it.

None of these are mutually exclusive...I hate when the assumption is that bc some parents fear the bathroom too much they dont think about the people close to them.

Also to the poster that says nothing has ever happened in a WDW restroom, I certainly dont want my child to be the first. And with the reports of security guards dealing in child porn, I dont think WDW is the safe bubble some people think it is.

My post was not intended to imply that you perosonally were only focusing on one aspect. Sorry if it seemed so. It is just that we see this issue of kids and restrooms discussed over and over again, but rarely do we see the molestor discussion in any other form. I find it odd when boggie man in the restroom is the LEAST likely scenario for a child to be accosted. I find it interesting that this is where people in general seem to focus thier energy while is is last on the list of likely dangers. I think we as a society have attached and irrational fear to public restrooms and as a result are taking kids into the women's room long past the time we should be. We, as a group, seem to overinflate this risk, but rarely address others.
 
Two words: Companion bathroom

At WDW that is easier said than done. They are not on the standard park maps, but only on those for guests who have disabilities. So if a mom is not familiar with where they are, it could take a while to find one.

I agree with the thought that if you (the parent) can't bring them into the stall with you then they should go in the restroom that matches their gender.
 
Hoodie said:
In the lengthy Community Board thread there was a general consensus that as long as you are comfortable bringing the child into the stall with you then it's OK. If they are too old to go into the stall with you, they are too old to go into the bathroom.

This is a great way to think about it. Too old to be in the stall with you too old to be in the bathroom.
 
I was there a little of 2 weeks ago & I noticed a Mother ( I guess) bring in her son (around 8yrs old), she checked a stall & told him he could use that one, she stayed close by & when he was done, he washed up & left, this was in Frontierland, I did not have a problem with it, as a mother I understood why she might have wanted him to use the womens, I might have done the same if I had a son.
It is not always about a Boogie Man! I personally spray lysol before I or my DD uses it, & I want to make sure there is nothing strange in there.:scratchin
 
my 6 1/2 yr old and my 5 yr old go into the bathroom by themselves. when im shopping at walmart or when we are at the mall i let them go by themselves. i just wait right by the bathroom. i have a 2 and 3 yr old. its to much of a hassle to bring all of them in. when we go to Disney though i will have my husband and my bff with me. so there is going to be someone there to take one of them to the bathroom lol!
 
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It is not always about a Boogie Man! I personally spray lysol before I or my DD uses it, & I want to make sure there is nothing strange in there.:scratchin

LOL. Have you ever seen the inside of a grade-school boys' restroom? Usually you can smell them from 50 feet away. If they can handle that on a regular basis, no germ they encounter in a regularly-cleaned WDW restroom is going to be an issue.
 












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