Born Again Christians Thread-No Bashing please

[cra-z-4-dizney]

Actually let's not.

Yeah let's stop beating a dead horse...GOD is the only one a sinner (ANY SINNER) has to answer to, so let's just agree to disagree...and get on with the original meaning of this thread before it gets closed. Please.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Elisabeth, I am glad that I am not alone on this. Yes I try little "conversations" throughout the day, but I also like more drawn out conversations. LOL

cristy, I love the idea of journaling. I used to do a lot of writing and this would be a great way to combine praying and writing. Hmmm now I need to go buy a new journaling book. I am not sure of the verse you mentioned, but I would be happy to try and figure it out. I love researching. As for not being trusting in this situation, I can understand. It's pretty scary. But I believe if that is what God is calling you to do, he will not leave you out there without a safety net.

 

[Buckalew11]

Cristy,

I am a believer that we have to take steps of faith. For instance, our DD goes to a private Christian school. This is very important to me and to her. We do it on a year to year basis because we are not rich. However, God has always provided the money for her education. For 7 years I have not known where I'll get the money from and yet, for 7 years, it is always there when the time comes to pay tuition. We have never took out a loan or borrowed from family etc. I believe that God has promised me that if I will send her and use my money wisely that He'll provide for her education.

It is only a step of faith when you don't have the money. You know, for your DH to return to school because you have the money on hand doesn't really have anything to do with having faith. It is when you pray about it, know that God wants him to return and he signs up that you take a step of faith.
Please don't confuse this with me saying to spend money like crazy because God will provide you with payment. That isn't what I believe. I am not a risk taker at all--esp. with my money! But God has proved to me over and over again that when I am in His Will, He provides a way.

I have never read this book but I love the title--You can't walk on water if you won't step out of the boat.

Oh, and I was thinking the same thing about lawman's posts. I guess when you have something you want to say, you'll find a way of saying it.

 

[cardaway]

Yeah let's stop beating a dead horse...GOD is the only one a sinner (ANY SINNER) has to answer to, so let's just agree to disagree...and get on with the original meaning of this thread before it gets closed. Please.

Sorry, not going to happen. I took a beating from folks here because I dared to respond to a topic already being discussed here. I'm not surprised there is a double standard now that its' been revealed that it was the OP continuing to bring the topic to the front. I'm disgusted, but I'm not surprised.

 

[cra-z-4-dizney]

Sorry, not going to happen. I took a beating from folks here because I dared to respond to a topic already being discussed here. I'm not surprised there is a double standard now that its' been revealed that it was the OP continuing to bring the topic to the front. I'm disgusted, but I'm not surprised.

So don't punish us all because of one poster. Why don't you start a new thread about how disgusted you are with this person, you are not being fair to the rest of us that have not said anything to you. I apologize for the bad responses you got but it is time to leave it alone now.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Sorry, not going to happen. I took a beating from folks here because I dared to respond to a topic already being discussed here. I'm not surprised there is a double standard now that its' been revealed that it was the OP continuing to bring the topic to the front. I'm disgusted, but I'm not surprised.

Cardaway, I don't see a double standard, I just see this as an issue that we all keep going around and around on. I think the OP, Lawman, or whoever it really is, needs to drop it as well. What I do find ironic is that if Lawman is the OP he is going again what he wanted for this thread, which was no debate.

I do think it is silly to pick on one "sin", we are all sinners. And that is why I have had enough of this subject (at least for right now, that is always subject to change).

 

[Buckalew11]

I totally agree with Miss Jasmine. We've been over this and over this.

 

[cardaway]

So don't punish us all because of one poster. Why don't you start a new thread about how disgusted you are with this person, you are not being fair to the rest of us that have not said anything to you. I apologize for the bad responses you got but it is time to leave it alone now.

I don't think so.

If the people posting on this thread wanted any credibility they would be giving the OP the same treatment they have given others who di the same thing. Not trying to sweep it under the rug.

But that's SOP when things like this happen isn't it?

 

[live4christp1]

Cristy,

I am a believer that we have to take steps of faith. For instance, our DD goes to a private Christian school. This is very important to me and to her. We do it on a year to year basis because we are not rich. However, God has always provided the money for her education. For 7 years I have not known where I'll get the money from and yet, for 7 years, it is always there when the time comes to pay tuition. We have never took out a loan or borrowed from family etc. I believe that God has promised me that if I will send her and use my money wisely that He'll provide for her education.

It is only a step of faith when you don't have the money. You know, for your DH to return to school because you have the money on hand doesn't really have anything to do with having faith. It is when you pray about it, know that God wants him to return and he signs up that you take a step of faith.
Please don't confuse this with me saying to spend money like crazy because God will provide you with payment. That isn't what I believe. I am not a risk taker at all--esp. with my money! But God has proved to me over and over again that when I am in His Will, He provides a way.

I have never read this book but I love the title--You can't walk on water if you won't step out of the boat.
Oh, and I was thinking the same thing about lawman's posts. I guess when you have something you want to say, you'll find a way of saying it.

I bought this book on tape for DH.....he reads his Bible but isn't really big on reading but I can get him to listen to them while he is driving. I really need to get the book and read it, as I prefer to read. We send our DS to Christian school too.....so far my tip money is covering tuition (we pay monthly).

One praise I would like to share along these lines (I feel like a baby taking tiny steps through this financial issue)......I started waiting tables in January part time (I have a full time job).....started out working Friday, Saturday & Sunday night. It really bothered me to miss Sunday night service so I decided that I would only work Friday & Saturday nights and trust God to make up the difference. Once I let go of Sunday night I have made the same amount in tips between Friday & Saturday as I was previously making 3 nights a week.

 

[Galahad]

So what do you all thing about WDWHound's question about Paul back on page 81? Interesting topic, huh?

 

[cardaway]

What I do find ironic is that if Lawman is the OP he is going again what he wanted for this thread, which was no debate.

It's much more than ironic.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

I don't think so.

If the people posting on this thread wanted any credibility they would be giving the OP the same treatment they have given others who di the same thing. Not trying to sweep it under the rug.

But that's SOP when things like this happen isn't it?

I don't think anyone is trying to sweep it under the rug. 1) We are all presuming that the OP is also Lawman. We don't know for sure. 2) No one said it is right. 3) By trying to bring up other topics I wasn't trying to sweep it under the rug, I am just tired of going over this one item again and again. Cardaway, you know how I feel, believe me I am not protecting the OP/Lawman (whoever it is). 4) If it didn't bother us about the OP/Lawman then why would we all be saying, "Yeah, I thought that, too."

 

[cra-z-4-dizney]

I don't think so.

If the people posting on this thread wanted any credibility they would be giving the OP the same treatment they have given others who di the same thing. Not trying to sweep it under the rug.

But that's SOP when things like this happen isn't it?

So basically what you are saying is you won't stop until this thread is closed????

 

[cardaway]

Yeah, the thread was really hopping before there was the need to push the "lawman" post to the previous page.

 

[RickinNYC]

It's much more than ironic.

Actually, this is very true. It's actually quite telling insofar as acrucifier/lawman's character. His definition of no debates is actually more along the lines of "no debates or retalliatory comments with ME" simply because he feels he is spreading the word of Christ. Which is a pretty ridiculous and downright offensive thing to expect on any public forum. I'm of the opinion that if you post potentially hurtful comments, whether under the guise of religion or not, you can expect those parties who are directly impacted to have a response. If that response is deemed as the beginning of a debate, that is the nature of a bulletin board.

I like to think that most folks have been pretty respectful of the initial request not to make this particular thread one of debates. However, when the original thread creator is the one who is consistently posting pretty judgemental and downright hateful comments and feels he should be protected from any debates... well, he is sadly, sadly mistaken. If that is his wish, he should join a Christian bulletin board where he is surrounded by only like-minded individuals.

My apologies to those of you who feel I am trying to start a fight on this thread. I am not and don't intend to continue to make posts on this thread about my thoughts on homosexuality. My life is much bigger than one simple aspect. But if acrucifier/lawman continues to feel its appropriate to post his own thoughts on what is clearly his obsession, then I am within my right to post a rebuttal.

 

[cardaway]

So basically what you are saying is you won't stop until this thread is closed????

Not at all. I know there would be another one before too long.

Now we have a situation where I'm being told I'm wrong for discussing the issue because the rest want to see it go away. Typical.

Everything was just peachy when you were going on about homosexuals without any input from "invaders". Now that someone noticed, and noticed that it was the OP bringing up the issue, it must die. Typical.

 

[cra-z-4-dizney]

Yeah, the thread was really hopping before there was the need to push the "lawman" post to the previous page.

Whether it was "hopping" or not, some peopple such as myself, like to come here and fellowship together. I don't understand why you want to punish everyone for someone elses mistakes????

 

[cardaway]

Actually, this is very true. It's actually quite telling insofar as acrucifier/lawman's character. His definition of no debates is actually more along the lines of "no debates or retalliatory comments with ME" simply because he feels he is spreading the word of Christ. Which is a pretty ridiculous and downright offensive thing to expect on any public forum. I'm of the opinion that if you post potentially hurtful comments, whether under the guise of religion or not, you can expect those parties who are directly impacted to have a response. If that response is deemed as the beginning of a debate, that is the nature of a bulletin board.

I like to think that most folks have been pretty respectful of the initial request not to make this particular thread one of debates. However, when the original thread creator is the one who is consistently posting pretty judgemental and downright hateful comments and feels he should be protected from any debates... well, he is sadly, sadly mistaken. If that is his wish, he should join a Christian thread where he is surrounded by only like-minded individuals.

My apologies to those of you who feel I am trying to start a fight on this thread. I am not and don't intend to continue to make posts on this thread about my thoughts on homosexuality. My life is much bigger than one simple aspect. But if acrucifier/lawman continues to feel its appropriate to post his own thoughts on what is clearly his obsession, then I am within my right to post a rebuttal.

You put if much better than I did. ITA.

 

[cardaway]

Whether it was "hopping" or not, some peopple such as myself, like to come here and fellowship together. I don't understand why you want to punish everyone for someone elses mistakes????

Punish? More than just a little dramtic.

Maybe I just haven't gotten over being called a "troll" for repsonding the the OP's topic and having most of you ignore that as well.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Cardaway, I am the one who tried to change the subject, not because I am trying to preserve acrucifer/lawman but because I really had that question, and I thought it would be nice to sdiscuss something else for a change. I am sorry that acrucifer/lawman has upset you. Believe me when I say he has upset ME in the past. I don't want to drag down a whole thread over it, that's all. There are a lot of other people I REALLY like on this thread (though I may not always show it since the debator in me often wins) and I don't want to see this thread lost.

As you can see on this thread, Christians are split on a lot of different subjects. It will always be that way. You may not like some people's line of thinking, I may not like that person's line of thinking, but that is their opinion. Just like you have yours.

I think you are reading more into the posting today than necessary. Sometimes we actually like to discuss other topics.