Born Again Christians Thread-No Bashing please

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Jesus said that if we followed him we would be reviled, and have evil spoken against us. I feel our job is to shine for him and let others see what he does for us. HE will deal with everyone in HIS own time and place!
 
Luvthatduke-the abortion thread has thankfully died down, it is on page 6 right now, titled "Abortion pics on side of the road"

On the "Curves" thread the abortion topic came up too, because the owner is a pro-life supporter. (then the same poster was talking supporting pro-choice)

I will stick around, I have learned to just ignore certain people

Have a good night!
 
Thanks... I think I'll let them rest.
Glad you're staying *smile*
 
JoeEpcotRocks said:
c) any criticism Christians make is "judging people" and is therefore taboo.
That goes both ways though. I've tried to point out things that I think Born Again Christians are making, and they've I've been told I'm "judging" you guys, too.

All opinions are judging, to a certain extent, and any time anyone expresses an opinion about you, it is possible to feel judged.

I just think you guys should remember that often you guys do the things you complain about others doing to you.
 

disneymom3 said:
You know what guys? I am really upset and need some reinforcements here. I had answered a question a long time ago on the raising children w/o a church thread and so now have been getting updates since it resurfaced. Here is what I want to know--why is it okay to discriminate and name call Christians and no one else? There is one post on there--among several calling Christians "brainwashed sheep" I even reported this post as it is insulting and beyond rude. Nothing has been done. It's still there. Now, if any other group were referenced there--minorities of any color, any other faiths etc, that post and others like it would be gone, but apparently it is okay because it is just Christian bashing and it's alright to call us insulting names. What is up with that?

I am close to leaving the DIS boards over this stuff. Tolerance is a two way street and the intollerance being thrown at Christians around here is just about too much. Makes me really sad.

I know how you feel. whatever you do, dont discuss any verse in the Bible relating to homosexuality or the gay lifestyle, because you will be descended upon by a million defenders, some of them well meaning born again christians who are trying to witness and keep the peace. there seems to be a double standard though, I certainly agree with that. oh and before the million flames come pouring my way, please review my earlier posts, I said nothing about the gay lifestyle thats not part of scripture and never critcized gays, simply said love the sinner, but repent the sin. I cant see anything wrong with that.
 
lawman1986 said:
I know how you feel. whatever you do, dont discuss any verse in the Bible relating to homosexuality or the gay lifestyle, because you will be descended upon by a million defenders, some of them well meaning born again christians who are trying to witness and keep the peace. there seems to be a double standard though, I certainly agree with that. oh and before the million flames come pouring my way, please review my earlier posts, I said nothing about the gay lifestyle thats not part of scripture and never critcized gays, simply said love the sinner, but repent the sin. I cant see anything wrong with that.[/QUOT


it does seem that we should be preaching, embracing and validating the bible whenever we can. giving Gays the message that what they do is ok and acceptable is violating the sacred nature of Gods's word. If its not ok, we shouldnt pretend it is. we can love a sinner without embracing the sin, and its time for us to do exactly that. we need to be very clear, you can preach to murderers, and drug dealers, but respect the sin they commit, and remember you cant candy coat it, its sin, just like the sin we commit, it needs to be repented, and we need to be open about admitting that. all this stuff here about embracing the gays who come on the thread is great, but we should be talkiing about repentence too, shouldnt we????? someone???
 
lawman1986 said:
lawman1986 said:
I know how you feel. whatever you do, dont discuss any verse in the Bible relating to homosexuality or the gay lifestyle, because you will be descended upon by a million defenders, some of them well meaning born again christians who are trying to witness and keep the peace. there seems to be a double standard though, I certainly agree with that. oh and before the million flames come pouring my way, please review my earlier posts, I said nothing about the gay lifestyle thats not part of scripture and never critcized gays, simply said love the sinner, but repent the sin. I cant see anything wrong with that.[/QUOT


it does seem that we should be preaching, embracing and validating the bible whenever we can. giving Gays the message that what they do is ok and acceptable is violating the sacred nature of Gods's word. If its not ok, we shouldnt pretend it is. we can love a sinner without embracing the sin, and its time for us to do exactly that. we need to be very clear, you can preach to murderers, and drug dealers, but respect the sin they commit, and remember you cant candy coat it, its sin, just like the sin we commit, it needs to be repented, and we need to be open about admitting that. all this stuff here about embracing the gays who come on the thread is great, but we should be talkiing about repentence too, shouldnt we????? someone???
I agree with what you said. There is an old saying :You have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. Sin is sin.
 
Ok, color me confused,
did lawman1986 just answer his own post??? :confused3
Somebody help my poor sleepy brain!

auntpolly, your reply about judging seemed to follow the posts
(one of which was mine) regarding name-calling.
I emphasize that because I believe you'd be
hard-pressed to find a username on this thread
that has resorted to calling a non-Christian (or Christian)
a derogatory name.
I can't speak for everyone, but Albertan Mom's post
and some others seemed to speak to my heart that
the name-calling was what was getting to them?
As I posted, I expect it - especially from the "usual suspects."
 
luvthatduke said:
I can't speak for everyone, but Albertan Mom's post
and some others seemed to speak to my heart that
the name-calling was what was getting to them?
As I posted, I expect it - especially from the "usual suspects."

I haven't read through all these posts and won't until tomorrow, but I, too, have almost come to my end with these boards and the people on them. It was not too long ago that I got into a discussion (on the Theme Park Strategies Thread) where there was a nice lady asking what rides would be objectionable to a Christian. She was a first-time poster and she just got blasted...most of the respondents wound up saying she shouldn't go at all. I PM'd her to tell her we weren't all like that and give her my perspective, but I'm afraid she may never have come back.

Quite frankly, if I'd gotten the same reception when I first showed my moniker on the boards, I wouldn't have come back either, and I might have lost interest in all things Disney.

I'll post some more tomorrow, for now it's me for bed. Glad to have found you guys...
 
2gether said:
... Quite frankly, if I'd gotten the same reception when I first showed my moniker on the boards, I wouldn't have come back either, and I might have lost interest in all things Disney.

I agree with that sentiment.
I guess I got my thick skin during the political discussions
when it seemed like everybody was doing this :badpc: .
 
As Christains we know we will be under attack. Why should we let those people who are against us stop us from enjoying good Christian fekllowship and discussion which I understood was the purpose of this thread. We have a lot of problems today because too many people wanted to appease too many ideas as to avoid controversy!
 
luvthatduke said:
Ok, color me confused,
did lawman1986 just answer his own post??? :confused3
Somebody help my poor sleepy brain!
I may be way off-base but I have had a strong suspicion ever since his first post that he and acrucifer are the same person. I may be wrong but acrucifer said he works in law enforcement so lawman would be an accurate screen name, don't you think? Sorry if I'm wrong. It's just a hunch I've had.
 
Tasha+Scott said:
I may be way off-base but I have had a strong suspicion ever since his first post that he and acrucifer are the same person. I may be wrong but acrucifer said he works in law enforcement so lawman would be an accurate screen name, don't you think? Sorry if I'm wrong. It's just a hunch I've had.
Hmmm... :scratchin
Now that would explain a lot!


Grandma Bear said:
As Christains we know we will be under attack. Why should we let those people who are against us stop us from enjoying good Christian fekllowship and discussion which I understood was the purpose of this thread. We have a lot of problems today because too many people wanted to appease too many ideas as to avoid controversy!

Grandma Bear, I totally agree!
If the others would permit me, I'd like to start off the week
with a huge praise (well, it was to me anyway!)
with apologies in advance for the long story:

Recently my 2 year old son & I were visiting my mom.
Now, she tries really hard to keep her house as grandson-safe
as possible, but she knows that we don't expect (nor should we)
that anyone's house but ours is what we consider "safe."
I usually do a quick tour of where he will be playing
throughout the rooms I grew up in.
I do the usual "pushing back from the edge of the counter trick"
so that he's not tempted to pull the coffee pot onto his head,
or to grab Mum-Mum's eyeglasses, etc.
Well, we'd been there a while and he'd already been playing in the kitchen, where I can see him just fine from the living room & always keep tabs on what he's doing - he likes to slide on the floor
or put his trucks on the built-in counter.
When he went back in my mom & I followed & continued chatting
while he played at our feet.
He found something, picked it up & said, "Uh-oh!"
(Which is what he says if he finds something & he doesn't know what it is).

He was holding a very pretty, blue Rx capsule - which probably would have killed him if he swallowed it (my mom takes many meds for serious conditions).

My heart wanted to leap out of my throat but the old reliable
non-panic Mommy Mode engaged, thank the Lord.
My son would normally show me something, but then think it's a game
and run away with it and sometimes put it in his mouth
- this is what I was terrified he was going to do.
He looked at me and then handed it right to me, praise Jesus!!
I must have thanked the Lord 1,000 times from that moment and into
the next day that "for some reason" my mom & I were both in
there with him when he found it, and even more thanks that even
though it was in (his) plain view at ground level he didn't see it earlier
- it didn't get pushed out, etc., it had always been there.
Even now I want to cry at what could have happened, as my DH said,
"No one would have even known what was wrong
with him if he'd found it & swallowed it earlier!"
My poor mother tho, as you can imagine she felt horrible even
tho I have told her repeatedly that it was a total accident
and she's not to blame (she was transferring meds from one
bottle to another - now she only does it over the sink just in case).

So there's my novel of the evening, just wanted to praise Jesus
for the safety of my little guy!
 
luvthatduke - Praise God for watching over your little one and keeping you calm! I have had that same exact situation before, I know all the things that start going through your head!
 
Tasha+Scott said:
I may be way off-base but I have had a strong suspicion ever since his first post that he and acrucifer are the same person. I may be wrong but acrucifer said he works in law enforcement so lawman would be an accurate screen name, don't you think? Sorry if I'm wrong. It's just a hunch I've had.
Phew glad someone else thought that as well. I almost posted that earlier but thought maybe I was out of my tree. :teeth: Looking at the acrucifer's profile he is a "lawman".


luvthtduke, how scary. But praise God that nothing bad happened!!!
 
lawman1986 said:
lawman1986 said:
I know how you feel. whatever you do, dont discuss any verse in the Bible relating to homosexuality or the gay lifestyle, because you will be descended upon by a million defenders, some of them well meaning born again christians who are trying to witness and keep the peace. there seems to be a double standard though, I certainly agree with that. oh and before the million flames come pouring my way, please review my earlier posts, I said nothing about the gay lifestyle thats not part of scripture and never critcized gays, simply said love the sinner, but repent the sin. I cant see anything wrong with that.[/QUOT


it does seem that we should be preaching, embracing and validating the bible whenever we can. giving Gays the message that what they do is ok and acceptable is violating the sacred nature of Gods's word. If its not ok, we shouldnt pretend it is. we can love a sinner without embracing the sin, and its time for us to do exactly that. we need to be very clear, you can preach to murderers, and drug dealers, but respect the sin they commit, and remember you cant candy coat it, its sin, just like the sin we commit, it needs to be repented, and we need to be open about admitting that. all this stuff here about embracing the gays who come on the thread is great, but we should be talkiing about repentence too, shouldnt we????? someone???

Once again, you have proven to be obsessed with homosexuality and gay peole in general. The Bible addresses quite a bit more than that if you've forgotten. Glad to see that other Christian folks, who may agree with you to an extent, at least know the meaning of tact AND they also know when to put the stick down since the horse is dead. Whether under your lawman screen name or your acrucifier name, your personal gay agenda is alive and well... and apparently very, very obvious not just to me.

And for what it's worth, when you've posted on your alternate screen name, you have never portrayed yourself as a "love the sinner" type but rather as pretty judgemental and very nasty about the entire topic. You have always proven to absolutely never simply state your opinion and move on but have always repeatedly stated your feelings, equate it to sin (which is not up for debate on this particular board), compare it to pediophilia and beastiality and subsequently offend anyone who feels different than you do.

I would suggest you sit and consider your motives and try to gain more and deeper understanding behind your very clear obsession with homosexuals.
 
In an effort to get away from the "dead horse" ;), what part of your walk with Christ do you feel you need to work the most on, what is it that you are neglecting?

I struggle with prayer. While I pray I often get distracted and before you know it I am thinking about all the things I need to do at work, at home, etc. I then feel so guilty. Does anyone have any tips with concentrating and not being distracted?
 
Miss Jasmine said:
In an effort to get away from the "dead horse" ;), what part of your walk with Christ do you feel you need to work the most on, what is it that you are neglecting?

I struggle with prayer. While I pray I often get distracted and before you know it I am thinking about all the things I need to do at work, at home, etc. I then feel so guilty. Does anyone have any tips with concentrating and not being distracted?
Miss Jasmine, I can certainly relate to that. Good grief, it seems like my mind just loves to wander whenever I try to pray. I think part of the reason I have this problem is that I tend to pray when I’m sleepy (like in the shower in the morning or right before falling asleep at night). I do try to remember that every prayer doesn’t have to last 20 minutes—sometimes sentence prayers work really well for me. Sort of like keeping an open dialog with God throughout the day.
 
Miss Jasmine said:
In an effort to get away from the "dead horse" ;), what part of your walk with Christ do you feel you need to work the most on, what is it that you are neglecting?

I struggle with prayer. While I pray I often get distracted and before you know it I am thinking about all the things I need to do at work, at home, etc. I then feel so guilty. Does anyone have any tips with concentrating and not being distracted?


Miss Jasmine, I have struggled with this too.....one thing that helps me a lot is to journal my prayers, sort of like writing a letter to God. This is also a very good way of going back and looking at all the prayers God has answered over a time period. I also pray as God brings people or certain things to mind, maybe driving down the road, etc.

The biggest thing I struggle with right now is trusting God with our finances. This past Wednesday a couple from our church who are going on debutation to go to the mission field just returned from Guam and they showed slides and told about their trip, etc. My heart just breaks and I am so burdened when I see these.......I know in my heart that this is what God is calling us too. DH needs to finish up his ministry degree.......but we keep pushing it off until we have the money.......I feel like we aren't trusting Him in this area. I heard a verse on the radio......a promise really.....but didn't get the reference......was as if God was speaking to me.......was the day after the message I've mentioned the verse was something to the effect of "if God has called you to do something, He will provide the means in which to do it." But I didn't get the reference and haven't had any luck finding it yet. Anybody know what verse this is?

Thanks
 
In an effort to get away from the "dead horse" ;), what part of your walk with Christ do you feel you need to work the most on, what is it that you are neglecting?

Actually let's not. So the OP who was under one username asking people to drop the subject comes back with another username to go even further?

Says it all doesn't it?

Once again, you have proven to be obsessed with homosexuality and gay peole in general. The Bible addresses quite a bit more than that if you've forgotten. Glad to see that other Christian folks, who may agree with you to an extent, at least know the meaning of tact AND they also know when to put the stick down since the horse is dead. Whether under your lawman screen name or your acrucifier name, your personal gay agenda is alive and well... and apparently very, very obvious not just to me.

No wait, that says it all.
 
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