Bombshell Obama Pastor Video

[kribit]

Too late for that.

Wow, I don't know whether to laugh or roll my eyes. I wonder if his campaign is running around retrieving all the pamphlets. Yikes!!!

 

[bsnyder]

Wow, I don't know whether to laugh or roll my eyes. I wonder if his campaign is running around retrieving all the pamphlets. Yikes!!!

And we didn't hear a peep from the liberal elites about this particular mixing of politics and religion, did we?

 

[CathrynRose]

And we didn't hear a peep from the liberal elites about this particular mixing of politics and religion, did we?

 

[LuvDuke]

Isn't it nice that your country doesn't have to make any hard military decisions to save Canadian lives because you just sit back and rely on US protection?

It's easy to judge from outside the ring. Why don't you try getting in the ring for once?

Good God, where does it end? Get in the ring? Are you not aware of how many Canadians have died fighting along side Americans? Obviously, no.

Are you aware there are Canadians in Afghanistan now fighting alongside Americans? Eighty-one Canadian families are mourning the deaths of their loved ones who died in Afghanistan.

Nearly 100,000 Canadians died during WWII. Were you aware of that? Obviously, no.

This is just appalling ignorance and I will gladly take my points to say that.

 

[LuvDuke]

Too late for that.

If you've got a point, please make it. Your fancy scan job is supposed to mean what?

And while you're at it, please show me and the good folks here exactly how Obama has been racist or exhibited any hatred towards any group?

Is that the point you're trying to make? Be my guest: show me and the good folks here what Obama's faith has meant?

 

[LuvDuke]

In the true spirit of religious faith, still planning on crashing Obama's church on Easter Sunday? Don't forget your video camera.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

And we didn't hear a peep from the liberal elites about this particular mixing of politics and religion, did we?

Of course not, because Obama is above letting his faith influence his role in government.

Oops!! Maybe not. Did Obama steal this from a GWB speech??

"I believe in the power of prayer. Through prayer, not only can we strengthen ourselves in adversity, but we can also find the empathy and compassion and the will to deal with the problems that we do control. What I pray for is the strength and the wisdom to be able to act on those things that I can control. And that's what I think has been lacking sometimes in our government. We've got to express those values through our government, not just through our religious institutions."

 

[LuvDuke]

Of course not, because Obama is above letting his faith influence his role in government.

Oops!! Maybe not. Did Obama steal this from a GWB speech??

****Nevermind for lack of interest*****

 

[SwedishMeatball]

****Nevermind for lack of interest*****

You just can't help yourself.

 

[chobie]

Too late for that.

Who put that out?

 

[bsnyder]

If you've got a point, please make it. Your fancy scan job is supposed to mean what?

And while you're at it, please show me and the good folks here exactly how Obama has been racist or exhibited any hatred towards any group?

Is that the point you're trying to make? Be my guest: show me and the good folks here what Obama's faith has meant?

My fancy scan job? I'm not sure what you are talking about. This is a pamphlet that the Obama campaign put out in South Carolina, before the primary there. One of my favorite liberal bloggers (Josh Marshall) had the images on his site.

I was responding to your comment, that we shouldn't mix religion and politics. I don't see any of the other Presidential candidates putting out a pamphlet that so overtly and blatantly does just that. Only Obama.

 

[bsnyder]

Who put that out? I can't see the "paid for by" part.

It's right in the middle - "Paid for by Obama for America".

Again, I got the images from TMP - a very liberal blog.

 

[chobie]

It's right in the middle - "Paid for by Obama for America".

Again, I got the images from TMP - a very liberal blog.

Yes, caught that. Of course, can't really be elected in the country unless you are Christian and make sure everyone knows it.

 

[LuvDuke]

My fancy scan job? I'm not sure what you are talking about. This is a pamphlet that the Obama campaign put out in South Carolina, before the primary there. One of my favorite liberal bloggers (Josh Marshall) had the images on his site.

I was responding to your comment, that we shouldn't mix religion and politics. I don't see any of the other Presidential candidates putting out a pamphlet that so overtly and blatantly does just that. Only Obama.

No, what I said is one's religious faith should be private. What happens at ones's church should be free of infilitrators who want to crash the service for their own political reasons. What I said was the relationship with one's pastor should be private and not subject to busybodies looking to find a gotcha to use as a weapon.

However if someone has found that their religious faith propels them to help the sick or the poor, more power to them.

Like every privacy issue, religious faith should be private, unless one wishes to profess their religious faith. The issue with privacy isn't that someone loses the right to share, but that you have no right to pry.

But anytime you'd like to spearhead the movement to completely separate religion from politics, be my guest and sign me up.

***Edited to Add***

Btw, it looks like the rightwing slime machine is going to keep up the good work. I say let the rightwing slime machine keep piling on Obama and cost him the nomination. Good job because those same votes will go to Hillary if for no other reason than payback.

 

[bsnyder]

Yes, caught that. Of course, can't really be elected in the country unless you are Christian and make sure everyone knows it.

Unless you want to expand on this, I'll take it as the typical "the end justifies the means"...

And TMP should be TPM - Talking Points Memo....sorry for the typo.

 

[bsnyder]

No, what I said is one's religious faith should be private. What happens at ones's church should be free of infilitrators who want to crash the service for their own political reasons. What I said was the relationship with one's pastor should be private and not subject to busybodies looking to find a gotcha to use as a weapon.

However if someone has found that their religious faith propels them to help the sick or the poor, more power to them.

Like every privacy issue, religious faith should be private, unless one wishes to profess their religious faith. The issue with privacy isn't that someone loses the right to share, but that you have no right to pry.

But anytime you'd like to spearhead the movement to completely separate religion from politics, be my guest and sign me up.

But that's not all you said. You also said:

What a candidate seeks for political purposes is fair game politically.

The problem is we're mixing religion and politics. Keep the 2 separate, IMO.

That's a political brochure, distributed during a Presidential primary. And it very pointedly mixes Obama's candidacy with his faith.

Are you now saying it's okay for him to do that?

And who said anything about crashing services and infilterators? No one did that in the case of Wright. He was selling the DVD's of his sermons on the internet.

 

[robinb]

Yes, caught that. Of course, can't really be elected in the country unless you are Christian and make sure everyone knows it.

What? You mean he's not a Muslim? Dang.

 

[eclectics]

What? You mean he's not a Muslim? Dang.

Maybe his Grandma was.

 

[Chuck S]

It gets better. This is a quote from a radio interview given by Barak today, when he was asked about his Grandmother reference in his speech on Tuesday.

"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know (pause) there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way."

I guess I'm an atypical white person, then. Thanks for the stereotype.

 

[LuvDuke]

But that's not all you said. You also said:

THis is what I also said:

***"Pardon me, but candidates speak at Bob Jones or visit the 700 Club looking for political endorsement. That's not an exercise of freedom of religion or the the right to privacy. What a candidate seeks for political purposes is fair game politically."***

You can't see the difference between seeking a political endorsement and saying one's religious faith is the basis for one's desire to do good? Really, there's no difference to you? What a revelation. Now it all makes sense.

That's a political brochure, distributed during a Presidential primary. And it very pointedly mixes Obama's candidacy with his faith.

Are you now saying it's okay for him to do that?

He can do it all he wants. Any candidate can do that. What you have no right to do is demand to know what went on between him and his pastor. That's none of your business. That's the right to privacy. That's what I said.

The right to privacy means you don't get to pry, not someone else doesn't get to share if they choose.

Specifically, what do you have a problem with in that brochure? The fact that it goes to prove he's not a Muslim? The fact that he believes his faith plays a part in wanting to provide healthcare or help the poor? What do you object to?

Don't regurgitate what I said or what you think I said. I want to know what your problem is with the message in that brochure. Please specifically explain it to me and the good folks here.

Like I said, anytime you want to spearhead the movement to get all religion out of politics, please do and sign me up.

And who said anything about crashing services and infilterators? No one did that in the case of Wright. He was selling the DVD's of his sermons on the internet.

I don't want to further embarass the poster so the best I can say is it's somewhere in this thread. You'll have to look for it assuming they didn't remove it.