Nope I haven’t seen anyone.
The difference between the two is not great enough to make a value proposition for one or the other. On one hand Poly gets 8 less years and costs more upfront but has lower dues but VDH has the lower buy in and higher dues. The only thing that should matter is which resort you will use home resort priority at AKA which one do you care more about locking in.
I’m pretty confident you won’t be disappointed with DTF. It’s really good!!
Sadly it’s easier to book VDH so that I a huge impact on where one should own if they are okay in studios and don’t book at 11 months.
), the decision between PVB and VDH comes down to where you are going to be primarily using those points. If VDH, buy VDH. If anywhere else, buy PVB.
Can I quote you on that in 20 years when VDH is surrounded by new theme parks?I'm not someone who is interested in VDH or PVB, but if I were, I think this is how I would look at a 150 point direct purchase at either with the primary aim being blue card benefits. I haven't run the numbers to get more precision, but I would think it would look something like this. If I were going to use those points at VDH every 1-3 years, buy VDH. If I were going to use those points at VDH every 5 or 6 years, but for most years, I was going to use it at WDW (PVB or other WDW resorts), I'd buy PVB. To me, that calculus would be based primarily on dues - current dues and the history that we have. And, based on current dues and history of percentage increase, PVB just beats VDH hands down. That's not a guarantee of the future, but that's what we know now.
https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/buying/annual-dues/
And, just to put some numbers out there, the trend with newer resorts has been that the dues start out higher, but the growth rate in dues tends to be small - that has not been the case at VDH so far. CCV's CAGR is 2.6%. RIV is 2%. PVB is 3.1%. CFW is 0.4%. VDH is 5.2%. It's an outlier . . . again, based on the data that we have currently. That could change. If you feel comfortably predicting a change one direction or the other, that might influence one to go with one or the other.
The secondary (and far less significant) reason I'd probably go with PVB over VDH (if not using VDH home resort advantage every 1-3 years) is resale value. If I were betting on resale value 20 years from, now, I'd bet on PVB over VDH . . . but, I wouldn't bet much money because that is a long ways away. And, if you're buying direct, I really wouldn't be buying based on projected resale value 20+ years into the future.
So, if you're just talking numbers (and, look, I get the emotional aspect - that's why I won 600 direct RIV points
I was going to say if you’re only basing it on financial info, then yes, there is no heart or foresight in there at all.
It’s also hard to have a trend line for dues on VDH after only a short time… Same for Poly now that it has PolyT.I was going to say if you’re only basing it on financial info, then yes, there is no heart or foresight in there at all.
Go for it!
Will be interesting to see whether one or both of us are still on these boards.
I mean, I'm with you. I bought RIV, not PVB, and I would say the same thing about the financial decision between those two - probably more on account of resale value than dues with the comparison between those two, but if you're basing only on financial analysis, I think PVB beats RIV too.I was going to say if you’re only basing it on financial info, then yes, there is no heart or foresight in there at all.
The only other thing I'd say on this is that it reminds me just a bit of RIV owners hopeful their contracts will suddenly have some great resale value in 2042 because their points chart will look the way BCV/BWV look now in comparison. I hope it comes true for RIV owners. I also hope DL FWD results in some fantastic development that also makes VDH purchases look like a great move today.
Agree with this too. That said, last I checked the older portion of PVB will ultimately account for half of all PVB's points once PIT is fully declared, so I think we've got some more data there - that said, as I also recall, the trend line was worse before PIT came along. PIT with all those point heavy rooms really helped.
I would say direct VDH. VGC at Christmas is the best, but on past trips all other times of year when given the option between the two, I always choose the Disneyland Hotel. It’s our family history there, the history of the hotel, and those tropical grounds with Trader Sam’s that move it to the top for me. With the DLR expansion coming, it makes the decision even easier between the two.
I'm just a teeny bit skeptical of the plans. After all, they planned WestCOT, but they built the OG DCA.
Except that VDH owners have an approved plan by the city of Anaheim after a multiyear push by Disney to get approval for Disneyland Forward to build more theme parks.
Personally, we love DCA. Also…. WestCOT could still happen…..
Yes, anything can happen, BUT… DLF is very much in the works, so I’m pretty confident SOMETHING is coming, and a “Epcot style” park seems to make the most sense, definitely makes more sense than a Six Flags type of park, right?? (or Animal Kingdom type)
Yes, if you do your initial paperwork but don't make the final deposit then you can straddle the two incentive cycles and pick which one is best for you. The DVC-Y status card appeared just hours after I committed.
I don't think there is any way they can do an Animal Kingdom park... the fireworks are too close for one thing.
Yea I was saying animals are just as unlikely as a six flags style.
