BLT Hostility

[lugnut33]

Maybe it was because I said in another thread that BLT is a "Colosus that sticks out like a sore thumb"? That's just my opinion of it being a huge resort right next to the MK. However if you like it then so be it, that's cool.

And there is nothing wrong with limiting access to BLT guests only, especially the walkway that will lead right into rooms. If people want to enter they can come through the main entrance.

As for pool hopping, my wife and I did that. We were staying at Kidani, rented a pontoon at CR, and decided to use the pool at CR afterwards. It was really nice to have the beach area near the pool. Only about 1/2 the lounge chairs were being used anyways so it's not like we took anybody's space.

 

[SoCalKDG]

Agreed, to each their own. However, let's be honest here, the closest hotel to the MK, which is the most popular (attendance records from each year) Disney park. That's simply the primo location.

Obviously the VGC is the primo location. With a view into one of the parks and closer to DL then BLT is to the MK, that trumps BLT every day of the week. Glad I purchased recently. Now I just need two nights at the BLT in Feb. so I can visit the second best resort around.

 

[thelionqueen]

Obviously the VGC is the primo location. With a view into one of the parks and closer to DL then BLT is to the MK, that trumps BLT every day of the week. Glad I purchased recently. Now I just need two nights at the BLT in Feb. so I can visit the second best resort around, .

From what I've seen in the drawings and layouts, the walking distance from VGC to the Disneyland front gate is MUCh farther than from BLT to MK front gate-someone correct me if I'm wrong here. I know from personal experience that from DLH to front gate @ DL park is farther than from CR to MK, so with BLT being even closer, I don't think it's possible for VGC to be closer.

Although I will be owning VGC soon as well as I believe that it's location is also "prime" but I certainly don't agree with BLT being the 2nd best resort around, it's obviously the best because I love it the most (best in my opinion only people, no flames please )

 

[SoCalKDG]

Google earth shows the closest distance for BLT to MK is approx .42 miles to entrance. VGC is .33 miles to DL and .12 miles into DCA.

FYI Disneyland Hotel is .46 miles shortest distance, while Contemporary shortest distance is .44 miles. Note all approx. using google earth.

 

[thelionqueen]

Google earth shows the closest distance for BLT to MK is approx .42 miles to entrance. VGC is .33 miles to DL and .12 miles into DCA.

FYI Disneyland Hotel is .46 miles shortest distance, while Contemporary shortest distance is .44 miles. Note all approx. using google earth.

I'm totally confused now . When we visited DL last year, we saw them building the VGC by Paradise Pier at least that's what I thought they were building. This must be where I'm mistaken. Where is VGC being built? If it is attached to the original GC then that would make sense. Maybe they were building a parking lot by PP

In any event, the distance from BLT to MK vs. walking distance from VGC to DL is a difference .09 of a mile according to Google earth is that correct? If so, then I'd hardly call that "trumping BLT every day of the week".

Also, watching Wishes from MK nightly while the music pipes into your room, is something I would say clearly "trumps" "looking into a park", that park being DCA (which I LOVE btw-nothin but love here for DCA!!).

All that added to say, I definitely call this discussion "me loving BLT and you loving VGC"

 

[M-I-C-K-E-Y]

How about this compromise:

- BLT has east coast "dibs" on being closest
- GCV has west coast "dibs" on being closest

On a thread that is proving "feisty," we can all agree on this, at least.

 

[thelionqueen]

I love Dibs

 

[TDC Nala]

Afraid I am one of those who'd rather walk to Epcot - so BCV gets the "prime" vote here

 

[Sk8Leigh]

I'm not a DVC member, but I have stayed at the CR. I don't have any problem with only BLT guests being able to use the bridge to the BLT, because there's really no reason to go over there anyway. And I don't have a problem with only BLT guests being able to use the lounge at the top for the fireworks. That's one of the perks of staying at BLT. But if BLT guests can use the CR pool, then CR guests should be able to use the BLT pool. I think that's how it is at WL/VWL. If they cut off BLT to CR, then it should go the other way around.

That said, I have no idea what the BLT pool will be like, or which pool will be "better", and I really don't even swim at WDW. And I don't know that the BLT even will be restricted.

 

[Caren]

I'm totally confused now . When we visited DL last year, we saw them building the VGC by Paradise Pier at least that's what I thought they were building. This must be where I'm mistaken. Where is VGC being built? If it is attached to the original GC then that would make sense. Maybe they were building a parking lot by PP

In any event, the distance from BLT to MK vs. walking distance from VGC to DL is a difference .09 of a mile according to Google earth is that correct? If so, then I'd hardly call that "trumping BLT every day of the week".

Also, watching Wishes from MK nightly while the music pipes into your room, is something I would say clearly "trumps" "looking into a park", that park being DCA (which I LOVE btw-nothin but love here for DCA!!).

All that added to say, I definitely call this discussion "me loving BLT and you loving VGC"

Wait, they're piping music into your room?

 

[thelionqueen]

Wait, they're piping music into your room?

Music to Wishes will be available to hear on your TV (I think it's TV) every night so you can see and hear Wishes!!

 

[jfinke]

We all know that the majority of Disney guests can not read the signs that tell them not to do something.

Isn't that the truth!

 

[keishashadow]

No, they don't - although California Grill is restricted to persons eating there.

Isn't that the truth!

or they can read the sign and feel they're 'special' and it applies to the other guy

ive yet to pool hoptoo much trouble for my slothful self; yet i'd be sorely tempted to visit SAB when staying @ BCV if permissable.

 

[DisneyWalker44]

How about this compromise:

- BLT has east coast "dibs" on being closest
- GCV has west coast "dibs" on being closest

On a thread that is proving "feisty," we can all agree on this, at least.

Except that BCV is significantly closer to a them park than BLT, and BWV is about the same distance as BLT.

Any chance we can tone down the "my resort is better than yours" posturing?

 

[bumbershoot]

I'm totally confused now . When we visited DL last year, we saw them building the VGC by Paradise Pier at least that's what I thought they were building. This must be where I'm mistaken. Where is VGC being built? If it is attached to the original GC then that would make sense. Maybe they were building a parking lot by PP

In any event, the distance from BLT to MK vs. walking distance from VGC to DL is a difference .09 of a mile according to Google earth is that correct? If so, then I'd hardly call that "trumping BLT every day of the week".

It's across the street from PPH, just like GCH is across the street from PPH. It seems to be connected to the hotel.

Now it does look like they are going to be rooms farthest away from the esplanade, and it was already an issue that some rooms in GCH are very very far away from the exit.

I don't know about the WDW stuff yet, but I know that just going from the lobby of GCH, through the corridors, to the auto doors leading to the walkway that leads to the exit into DTD is a bit convoluted, so you don't want to rely totally on an "as the crow flies" measurement. Once you're out of that gate, you go through probably 1/3 of DTD and then to the esplanade.

Of course if you're going directly into DCA then you go through the special entrance for Disney resort guests (which is usable by others after the morning hours, generally, and definitely for people eating at GCH). But you wouldn't save time going through that entrance, to then get out of DCA across the esplanade and into DL...I really doubt that would be any closer than going out the DTD exit/entrance/open gate to get to DL.




What's funny is that I still can't really tell if the thread is about BLT owners being hostile and sticking to the "rules", or if it's about non BLT owners being hostile against what might be the rules of BLT!

 

[Dean]

This might be true, but the one way pool-hopping isn't just a DVC issue. It also applies to using the pools at the Polynesian, Grand Floridian, Contemporary and all other resorts except AKL/V and SAB at BC/YC.

A Polynesian guest who paid top dollar for their room gets to deal with a pool that services their resort as well as 7 DVC resorts. That was probably never fair (assuming crowding was ever a problem).

Within the DVC system, given the small number of guests at BCV, I don't think one-way hopping would have ever been an issue. However, now with AKV as part of the system (and eventually BLT), I can see potential for crowding on peak days at other popular pools. However, DVC deals with that by restricting pool hopping on peak days.

It sounds like you're saying that pool hopping (if it exists at all) should be confined to OKW, SSR, VWL, and BWV.

Dirk

I think they should allow it or they should do away with it, all or none. As a minimum they should not allow those staying at resort closed to PH to PH to other locations. There are at least 2 issues here. One is appropriateness and that is the basis for these statements. The other is practicality which is why they have limited SAB and AKV and likely will BLT as well.

 

[Sammie]

I think they should allow it or they should do away with it, all or none. As a minimum they should not allow those staying at resort closed to PH to PH to other locations. There are at least 2 issues here. One is appropriateness and that is the basis for these statements. The other is practicality which is why they have limited SAB and AKV and likely will BLT as well.

Totally agree, and I vote to end pool hopping completely. It over crowded SAB which is why it was stopped, I think it totally unfair to restrict it at certain locations but then allow those staying at those restricted areas to PH to other locations.

It truly is not fair to restrict usage of say; SAB to DVC members staying at the BWV but allow BCV members to go to the BWV pool.

However I think DVC is talking big and will not back it up, they will put up some signs, they will put some info on the website and in the check in materials but they won't enforce it.

 

[jade1]

Totally agree, and I vote to end pool hopping completely.

I suspect most BCV and BLT owners would be fine with this as well. I know I would-no need to hop IMO from these 2 resorts (BCV/BLT). We can catch our hot afternoon breaks from EPCOT/DHS at SAB, and plan to split our stays at BLT so our breaks from MK will also be minutes away, AK is a half day anyway. Any guests who want a quick swim break from OKW/SSR/VWL/AKV at these parks will be more effected IMO, since they would have a much longer trek back for a swim.

It over crowded SAB which is why it was stopped, I think it totally unfair to restrict it at certain locations but then allow those staying at those restricted areas to PH to other locations

1) It was needed for SAB and as you point out-successfully stopped. 2) Unfair? Maybe, but anyone staying at BCV gets this perk (rented from WDW, points at 7 months etc.) 3) It was sold this way.

Again, stopping all pool hopping isn't going to punish/concern a BCV owner-they have SAB and are the least to care about PH IMO.

It truly is not fair to restrict usage of say; SAB to DVC members staying at the BWV but allow BCV members to go to the BWV pool.

Not the best example-few of us hop to BWV when we have SAB. But again-elimination of this example would be no big deal at all.

However I think DVC is talking big and will not back it up, they will put up some signs, they will put some info on the website and in the check in materials but they won't enforce it.

May very well be true. Although they enforce SAB pretty well.

 

[gkrykewy]

We can catch our hot afternoon breaks from EPCOT/DHS at SAB, and plan to split our stays at BLT so our breaks from MK will also be minutes away, AK is a half day anyway.

Them's fightin' words. If AK is a half day, DisMGMWood Studios must be an hour.

 

[Kickapoo Joie Juice]

Right. Some CR guests seem to be objecting to it "on principle" .. i.e., "If you can use MINE, why can't I use YOURS, too?" That's where the resentment seems to be coming in. They're not looking at it properly; as different parts of the same resort, like standard vs. concierge levels, as others have correctly pointed out.

Some of the ugliest posts I've seen on the Dis have been from CR "afficionados", ESPECIALLY the concierge level denizens

If the walkway is connected to that bank of elevators, then I totally agree that they need to restrict access as much as possible, it seems like a big choke point already...