BLT Hostility

[jade1]

Them's fightin' words. If AK is a half day, DisMGMWood Studios must be an hour.

Let me re-phrase that one, sorry. For US, AK is a half day-with no night show we tend to do AK one day of the trip, so we open it to make sure we get what we want done by noon. Then its break time and no reason to come back that afternoon/eve. DHS is a great example, again for us. We stay out late (and the evenings in August are much cooler than 2PM) so going back to DHS for Fantasmic and earlier obtained FP's makes sense for us.

Obviously we all tour differently, so thanks for asking our rational.

 

[SoCalKDG]

Also, watching Wishes from MK nightly while the music pipes into your room, is something I would say clearly "trumps" "looking into a park", that park being DCA (which I LOVE btw-nothin but love here for DCA!!).

All that added to say, I definitely call this discussion "me loving BLT and you loving VGC"

Did I fail to mention that looking into the park includes watching the new World of Color show? Just a few hundred yards away experiencing the music live - not from the TV You can even take a 5 minute walk and see the fireworks show from DL. Double the fun.

Up for some adventure? Put your swimsuit on, a shirt, water shoes, walk through the GC - DCA entrance with your fast pass to Grizzley rapids, ride, get wet, back through the entrance and jump into the pool. All in 15 minutes. Advantage VGC.

Now if I lived in Florida instead of So Cal I might be pushing the virtues of a WDW DVC, but that would be assuming that I'm biased with my thoughts, which of course I'm not.

Thats what is great about DVC. Taking a cruise with just the wife in June, so its a night at the Boardwalk afterwards so we can easily walk to Epcot and Hollywood Studios. Next Feb. its a Disney Cruise with the kids that we received for purchasing at the VGC. Three nights at BLT for MK access afterwards is what I'm shooting for. Then a week in June at VGC, very low cost as we will use our current AP passes, drive 35 minutes, and bring our own food.

 

[going/again]

[QUOTE=SoCalKDG;31786193

Next Feb. its a Disney Cruise with the kids that we received for purchasing at the VGC.

wow how many points did you have to purchase per kid

 

[Starr W.]

Some of the ugliest posts I've seen on the Dis have been from CR "afficionados", ESPECIALLY the concierge level denizens

My fave of the CR concierge level denizens, use to show up on the DVC side, when we were all speculating on BLT. I think he was a teenager, a little miffed that DVC was going to ruin his family's vacations at the CR.

 

[d-r]

I think they should allow it or they should do away with it, all or none. As a minimum they should not allow those staying at resort closed to PH to PH to other locations. There are at least 2 issues here. One is appropriateness and that is the basis for these statements. The other is practicality which is why they have limited SAB and AKV and likely will BLT as well.

Dean....I don't think anybody bought beach club points to pool hop old key west.

 

[DisneyWalker44]

us hop to BWV when we have SAB. But again-elimination of this example would be no big deal at all.

I actually think BCV guests going to BWV is the most common pool hop in all DVC. It's the only option in the system for just walking over. In online posts, I've seen more posts about that hop than any other.

 

[Dean]

Dean....I don't think anybody bought beach club points to pool hop old key west.

PH is not limited to those who own but those who stay. Certainly for BCV that is a relatively high % of those who own but by no means exclusive. I'd agree that if you are staying at SAB and that pool is functional, most would not be interested in PH. However, the truth is that the majority of guests at any resort do not PH. Also, there are other reasons to PH than just leaving your resort to get to another pool. Many do so to break up a jaunt to a park or DD. In part that's why I qualified there were two ways to look at it. For the most part I tend to look at it as a philosophical question and from that standpoint the numbers matter not thus from my perspective your point is meaningless.

 

[thesupersmartguy]

I have noticed this. I feel that we as DVC members pay $1,000's ahead for these features. I guess Disney is just trying to offer us something for that 50 year commitment.

 

[M-I-C-K-E-Y]

Dean....I don't think anybody bought beach club points to pool hop old key west.

Even though I love most everything about OKW, I had to LOL about that one...so true.

 

[jade1]

I actually think BCV guests going to BWV is the most common pool hop in all DVC. It's the only option in the system for just walking over. In online posts, I've seen more posts about that hop than any other.

Well then its settled. The current system is working great so no reason to mess with it.

 

[d-r]

PH is not limited to those who own but those who stay. Certainly for BCV that is a relatively high % of those who own but by no means exclusive. I'd agree that if you are staying at SAB and that pool is functional, most would not be interested in PH. However, the truth is that the majority of guests at any resort do not PH. Also, there are other reasons to PH than just leaving your resort to get to another pool. Many do so to break up a jaunt to a park or DD. In part that's why I qualified there were two ways to look at it. For the most part I tend to look at it as a philosophical question and from that standpoint the numbers matter not thus from my perspective your point is meaningless.

yes, you are taking it from a philosophical point, but the rationale for the policy to limit ph at sab and akl is based on a pragmatic one. There is no problem with crowding from ph for the other pools (imho crowd problems at WL come from the fort) so there is no need to limit - I agree most ppl don't ph. If there was a problem they would limit it. So the philosophical point (I get it) to me is the meaningless one - b/c there is no problem to fix. Imho, the logical extension is to not allow booking of non-home resorts, philosophically, why should someone pay vero dues so I can enjoy the beach for a weekend with points I pay bcv dues for, etc. I mean doesn't the philosophical point ultimately end up at who is paying for what?

But in practice pool hopping isn't a big deal so who cares.

 

[tinkerbell 766]

If you own at BLT but are staying at another resort, can you access the fireworks lounge. In November, I am going home to Kidani, but would love to get into the lounge to view the fireworks. It is my home after all!!!

 

[jco_direwolf]

If you own at BLT but are staying at another resort, can you access the fireworks lounge. In November, I am going home to Kidani, but would love to get into the lounge to view the fireworks. It is my home after all!!!

Without any rules yet posted officially from DVC that I've seen, the answer is yet to be seen.

That said, the rules that people have posted here saying "My Brother's friend who talked to a bus driver who knows a guy who's wife is a DVC sales person..." or what ever the story is about the rules.

I would have to say no. Most of the one's I've seen basically say it's limited to first come first serve for the people who are staying on points at BLT. Which would be no.

But of course till they give us the rules. The rules are always up for change. So who knows...

johno

 

[tinkerbell 766]

Thank you. We'll wait and see.....

 

[CMOORE185]

If you own at BLT but are staying at another resort, can you access the fireworks lounge. In November, I am going home to Kidani, but would love to get into the lounge to view the fireworks. It is my home after all!!!

I would say most likely no to you being able to use BLT for fireworks viewing while staying at another resort. Unfortunately for you the only real difference of owning at BLT vs another resort is the 11 month booking window.

 

[RLRDA]

I would say most likely no to you being able to use BLT for fireworks viewing while staying at another resort. Unfortunately for you the only real difference of owning at BLT vs another resort is the 11 month booking window.

I would agree with this - it's like the owners at BCV, they cannot use SAB if they're staying at VWL (or anywhere else) simply because they are owners, they have to be staying at BCV.

 

[Nikisha421]

I think a lot of it boils down to this point - BLT has a very desirable view, and some/many are miffed that they won't have access to it. That brings out the haters.

haters...definetely a NY statement...but anyway we all should just have one big and make up

 

[BCV23]

We own at BCV, AKV and BLT. I personally hope PH is eliminated across property. It doesn't seem fair to have only some resorts excluded.

I really don't think it's fair to pool hop to the Polynesian. Many people do it....it is pretty obvious at times. I've even had young CPers say to me..."oh, I just used the pool there last week...it's great."

I do think the idea that pool hopping from BCV to BWV is the most common to be really, really funny.

 

[keishashadow]

know i was surprised as to the accessiblity of non guests to wander the resorts.

Years ago I asked my guide as to what appeared to be lack of security-easy access to hotel floors, etc.w/o key cards. He explained that Disney actually designed the resorts to encourage folks to come & poke about (after enjoying dinner in hotel restuarants, etc.) in hopes of them returning as guests or signing up for DVC tour.

IMO, not only should all non public floors should be off limits to non-guests; I'd like to see the pools gated or at least frequent room key checks.

It was apparent from day one that the rooftop lounge @ BLT wouldn't hold all the onsite guests in the building, let alone others; i was put off by the ressie system discussed; afraid we'd be in standard or bay view & still not get that great view. As my DH said when we decided not to buy BLT, we're only a ressie away (via CA grill or a couple of nights @ CR MK facing room) to enjoy up the view.

 

[crisi]

I actually think BCV guests going to BWV is the most common pool hop in all DVC. It's the only option in the system for just walking over. In online posts, I've seen more posts about that hop than any other.

DVCers at the MK using the Poly pool for an afternoon break. Or the WL pool. DVCers using the BWV pool on an Epcot/DHS day.

The Poly pool is really crowded a lot of the time - its really almost as much of an attractive nuisence as SAB - has the "advantage" over SAB of being visible from the monorail or ferry when going to the MK, plus that cool looking volcano. And its a small pool for a large resort.

But I agree for straight pool to pool access - it isn't an uncommon hop to head over the the BW from the BC - some kids perfer the slide and its an easier pool to watch kids at. Plus there is just the variety and ease. When the BWV slide is closed, we've hopped over to SAB - and I didn't really think it was worth the walk myself.