Biscuit's Grand Adventure 2 - Adventures in Opposites *TR NOW ACTIVE!

Howdy and :welcome: The one that I had the hardest time adaption to was "Go with". I instinctively say the missing pronoun. I just can't leave that one hanging. My in law's are always cracking up over "a'int" and "I tell you what".

I'm not sure what you mean by "go with", can you explain further? Do you mean "Would you like to go with?" when you're asking someone to come along with you?

I would also definitely be cracking up over "I tell you what"! :rotfl2:
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "go with", can you explain further? Do you mean "Would you like to go with?" when you're asking someone to come along with you? I would also definitely be cracking up over "I tell you what"! :rotfl2:
You are correct. "Go with" "bring with" etc.
 

I have been missing on the boards for awhile and thought I'd better check up on your report. Wow! Lots of good changes. We stayed at the WL in 2008 and it was wonderful. I also have booked and cancelled trips for multiple years since 2008...just dying to get back and experience WDW again. We are going at the end of May and staying at WL. My DH won't stay anywhere else since our 2008 trip. He says its peaceful compared to the rest of Disney World. He is willing to go to WDW for us but it isn't his cup of tea:sad2:.

We just told the girls because I was so afraid we would have to cancel yet again but it looks like we are going. Too bad I didn't read your report sooner or I could have checked out the Orbitz deal but I'm not gonna share that bit of information with the hubby! He was thrilled to get the discount that is going on right now.

I am excited to hear about your experience at WL. Don't forget to rub Humphry's (if I am spelling his name right) nose when you check in...rumor has it that it will guarantee a good trip.
 
Just checking in !!!!
Hi Rosie! :wave2:

Joining in!!!
:welcome: Glad to have you here!

I have been missing on the boards for awhile and thought I'd better check up on your report. Wow! Lots of good changes. We stayed at the WL in 2008 and it was wonderful. I also have booked and cancelled trips for multiple years since 2008...just dying to get back and experience WDW again. We are going at the end of May and staying at WL. My DH won't stay anywhere else since our 2008 trip. He says its peaceful compared to the rest of Disney World. He is willing to go to WDW for us but it isn't his cup of tea:sad2:.

We just told the girls because I was so afraid we would have to cancel yet again but it looks like we are going. Too bad I didn't read your report sooner or I could have checked out the Orbitz deal but I'm not gonna share that bit of information with the hubby! He was thrilled to get the discount that is going on right now.

I am excited to hear about your experience at WL. Don't forget to rub Humphry's (if I am spelling his name right) nose when you check in...rumor has it that it will guarantee a good trip.
:welcome: Congrats on booking WL! Excited for you guys! May is....NOW!
 
Hello Great Biscuit. It has been eons ago we make any connection.

I would love to hear how's the Biscuit clan feels about the WL stay. After barely 4 years since our last trip, the price to stay at WL is just nuts. For my next trip, I too will continue to stay at WL in Oct. However, I rented DVC points to get a 2 bedrooms villa instead of the normal resort area. There will be 6 adults plus two 13 years old in our clan. I think I must've lost my marbles for planning with such large clan, at least from my perspective.

Never the less, the fun part of the trip is to see how it deviate from the plan. The unexpected change is what make it so memorable and talk about it in our TR as long as I don't forget my camera gear again. :eek:
 
Hello Great Biscuit. It has been eons ago we make any connection.

I would love to hear how's the Biscuit clan feels about the WL stay. After barely 4 years since our last trip, the price to stay at WL is just nuts. For my next trip, I too will continue to stay at WL in Oct. However, I rented DVC points to get a 2 bedrooms villa instead of the normal resort area. There will be 6 adults plus two 13 years old in our clan. I think I must've lost my marbles for planning with such large clan, at least from my perspective.

Never the less, the fun part of the trip is to see how it deviate from the plan. The unexpected change is what make it so memorable and talk about it in our TR as long as I don't forget my camera gear again. :eek:
Topdog!!!! :welcome: How are you? It has been an age since last we chatted!

Congrats on the upcoming WL adventures. :woohoo:

I can't wait to see your photos! I must admit I have referenced your WL pics and your arrival video many times in preparation for this summer. Great to hear from you! I may be throwing out some camera questions here soon. :teacher:
 
OH, a much welcome familiar face!! I'm so in :)
 
Part 5 - My Disney Experience - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Well, howdy folks! It has been a while indeed! Cheer and gymnastics season has FINALLY wound down for the year and things are slowly returning to normal. No trip cancellations have occurred so that is making my happy.

This has been a much different experience than planning our last trip. There has been so much going on of late that I really have not given as much time and thought to it as I would have liked. (As evidenced by the ridiculously long hiatus in posting.)

Now that the 60 day window has opened, I am starting to feel a bit behind the curveball.

When last we spoke, I had booked a few dining ressies, booked 3 nights at WL and had 5 nights lined up off site. Those plans have remained wholly unchanged and are now the Official Bubba Plan.

As I pondered what might be pertinent / relevant to this somewhat sporadically posted musing, the topic that keeps coming up is FastPass+.

This was the primary motivation for adding a night on property at the beginning of our trip.

Brief Recap: at the time, FP+ was ONLY available for on-site guests, there were NO more legacy FP offerings available, and the thought of going July 4 week without a FP was making me neurotic. I added a night so that we could at least have 2 days worth of FP+ (check in and check out). One night became 2 which then became 3 after the discounts came out.
With the FP+ window now open, it seems like a good time to talk about how it has all worked out for us.

Warning – what follows is not a tale of joy and harmony. If you can’t handle hearing bad news about Disney, I recommend you skip past this section. That is all.
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Now, for those who stayed, my take on booking FP+.

So far things have not gone as smoothly as I would hope.

For some months now, we have had a My Disney Experience account setup and I have had mine linked to my Brother-In-Law’s account to setup dining ADR’s. It was great, I loved it, it made life very easy. Dining reservations went smoothly, were easy to change, and I love the way I can break everything down in one place. To that point, I was singing the MDE Love song.

And then came along FP+ and my joy was no longer full.

Our first problem began with my park tickets not linking to our My Disney Experience page. More specifically, the tickets linked on the back end, but did not show up on the website. When I would try to relink them, I got a message that they were already linked. Disney Tech support could see that they were missing on my page, could see that they were associated in their system on the back end, but could not quite figure out the issue. After two calls, an hour on the phone and a promise they were “Working on it” I finally got a set of emails telling me tickets had been associated with my profile.

That was half the battle.

The other half was my BIL’s profile.

When we went to do our FP+ reservations at our 60 day window, My Disney Experience decided that even though my BIL’s family are all on the same package, in the same resort, with the same tickets on the same dining plan, and all show up in MDE under the resort and dining reservations, when it comes to FP+, only my BIL was going to be displayed as having a valid park ticket. My SIL and nieces errored out with a message stating they had no valid park admission on the dates listed. Another call to Disney Tech support and day’s wait corrected it. At least we thought it did.

The next day, (the day they added the 7 Dwarfs Mine Train to FP+) the entire system went down. When it finally came back up, our profiles were once again unlinked. We got them back eventually, but never could get all 8 of us to show a valid park ticket. Every time I opened FP+, one of us (randomly it seemed) would show as being ineligible to book FP+ reservations. Another call to tech support and another day’s wait and it seems that we are now finally all showing up in the system.

At least on the website.

The mobile (iPhone / iPad) version is still not wholly functional. Sometimes, I can see all of us listed, other times, it changes all of my existing FP+ reservations from a group of 8 to a party of 1 and randomly lists one of us as the lucky FP holder. They still show as 8 on the website and Disney Tech Support seems unconcerned by the Mobile Platform issues. They assure me that the actual FP+ reservations are not being changed.

The fact that they WANT you to use the mobile version in the park to update / tweak the FP+ reservations presents some potential drama for our upcoming excursion.

While my first temptation was to say forget it we’ll skip FP+ and just go with the flow when we get there, in reality it isn’t practical; for the week of our trip, FP+ was a necessary commodity.

With the reports of 5 hour wait times to meet Ana and Elsa, the insane lines sure to crop up at 7 Dwarfs Mine Train, the always crowded Soarin and Toy Story Midway Mania, I was getting insanely stressed out that our entire vacation was going to nothing but endless lines and that we would wind up with nothing but same day FP+’s to useless attractions.

Using a PC, I have managed to finally book FP+ for all the things we wanted so that part is nifty. The stress to get there was not. I spent literally hours banging my head trying to get things setup. I’m sure the system will be great once it’s stable, but it was royal 4 day long pain in my biscuit to try to get the kinks worked out.

I also recently discovered that Disney is skipping EMH on ONE Sunday all summer…the Sunday we are there. Multiple calls to multiple people (guest relations, reservations, concierge, itinerary planning) confirmed that NO ONE knows if it is a website typo/oversight or an ACTUAL EMH cancellation. Their best recommendation is to ask in the park that day. That’ll be great for planning.

Between the frustrations of MDE and EMH, the chaos that fills my life of a campus tech at the end of the school year, and going into pre-production next week for our Project 168 film, I am NOT feeling the magic right now.
Don’t get me wrong, I know it will come eventually.

I KNOW it will get better.

I know I will roll up to that resort and be so overwhelmed that all I can do is point and recite the pledge of allegiance. I know I'll be grinning ear to ear when I buy my mug. I know I'll be giggling like a fool when I am heading to the pool. I know I'll be shouting THIS IS WHY I’M HERE! when we are Soarin. I know I will stand in the France pavilion, break wind at the French flag and declare “I Fffffffffaaaaart in your general direction!” I know I'll be pointing and shouting at Illuminations. I know I'll send a message to ZZUB from the Canadian Outpost. I know I will be in awe when I leave Epcot the first night and realize I am ACTUALLY heading to my room the Lodge.

I know all of that.

But in the here and now, I can’t get there yet.

This concludes the negative portion of this PTR. We now return you to the regularly schedule postings.
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One of the best things I have done is subscribe to Touring Plans. It has made life much easier and changed the way I went after Fast Pass Reservations.

Rather than going with attractions “I Like” (which was kind of the direction I was leaning) I instead went for FP+ for the attractions which listed the longest wait times. It makes sense really. Adding my FP+ reservations to their customizable plan engine resulted in touring arrangements I never would have come up with on my own. A couple of times, it even recommended I ditch certain FP+ reservations because they actually increased my overall daily wait times. Granted they are merely calculated projections, but the plans it created will allow us to hit far more attractions that I would have thought possible otherwise. I’m excited to try it out this summer and see how reality matches to their predictions.

Here is what we scored as far as FP+ is concerned.

Day 1 we won’t be in the park (Epcot) until late evening so there isn’t a whole lot of need for FP+ with one exception. (I don't even need ot mention what it is.) This night it will only be my crew of 4. For that day we went with Soarin, Spaceship Earth and Mission:Space for FP+. The last two really aren’t needed, but then again, none of the other Tier 2 Epcot options were either. Plan is for all 4 of us to do MS Green in standby line, then FLB will remain in the exit “Mission Control” area while the girls and I use FP+ for the orange side.

Day 2 – MK – Enchanted Tales with Belle, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, Peter Pan’s Flight. Believe it or not, there was ONE Fastpass+ attraction that was gone for our first day. It was… “Meet Anna and Elsa with a Visiting Princess at Princess Fairytale Hall”. Luckily we have 2 days there.

Day 3 – DHS – Toy Story Midway Mania, Tower of Terror, Star Tours

Day 4 – AK – Expedition Everest, Kali River Rapids, Kilimanjaro Safari

Day 5 – Epcot – This is my BIL’s family only Epcot day so there will be a couple of repeats. Soarin, Spaceship Earth, Turtle Talk with Crush

Day 6 – MK – Meet Anna and Elsa with a Visiting Princess at Princess Fairytale Hall, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Splash Mountain.

That does it for now.

Hope you all have a great day!
 
And then came along FP+ and my joy was no longer full.

Our first problem began with my park tickets not linking to our My Disney Experience page. More specifically, the tickets linked on the back end, but did not show up on the website. When I would try to relink them, I got a message that they were already linked. Disney Tech support could see that they were missing on my page, could see that they were associated in their system on the back end, but could not quite figure out the issue. After two calls, an hour on the phone and a promise they were “Working on it” I finally got a set of emails telling me tickets had been associated with my profile.

That was half the battle.

The other half was my BIL’s profile.

When we went to do our FP+ reservations at our 60 day window, My Disney Experience decided that even though my BIL’s family are all on the same package, in the same resort, with the same tickets on the same dining plan, and all show up in MDE under the resort and dining reservations, when it comes to FP+, only my BIL was going to be displayed as having a valid park ticket. My SIL and nieces errored out with a message stating they had no valid park admission on the dates listed. Another call to Disney Tech support and day’s wait corrected it. At least we thought it did.

My 2 cents for whatever is is worth.

The system is amazingly glitchy. We have had these issues over and over and they are inconsistent. I have found that sometimes an easier workaround than the calling would be to book the FP for whoever the system decided had a valid ticket. Then go in and try to copy that one to other people. Often magically, it would then show they had valid tickets and let me copy the time over. Often I actually had better luck with the app. Often. But not always.

Why, I don't know. But it worked often. Not always. I am not surprised that Anna, Elsa and the dwarves crashed an already fragile system.

You will need FP+. You will appreciate it, even with it's major flaws, once there with those crowds. You are right. You do need it.

As for the hours, they can change them on the fly even if it was published already, all you can do is roll with it so try not to think too hard. I've had hours changed on me more times than I can count (so I stopped counting).

But in the here and now, I can’t get there yet.

Well of course you can't! Days of phone time with Disney IT is enough to suck the joy out of anyone.

I can't wait to see how my own ticket drama plays out next week. I'm going to play the magic band game.

Is it...

Band #1?
Band #2?
Band #3?
Band #4?

Which one will unlock the magic of the spinning green mickey? Any? None? And will any unlock my room door?

Stay tuned to see!!!

:rotfl:

Day 1 we won’t be in the park (Epcot) until late evening so there isn’t a whole of need for FP+ with one exception. This night it will only be my crew of 4. For that day we went with Soarin, Spaceship Earth and Mission:Space for FP+. The last two really aren’t needed, but then again, none of the other Tier 2 Epcot options were either. Plan is for all 4 of us to do MS Green in standby line, then FLB will remain in the exit “Mission Control” area while the girls and I use FP+ for the orange side.

You mighty be surprised, SE was sporting crazy lines my last trip. Boggled my mind.

Day 2 – MK – Enchanted Tales with Belle, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, Peter Pan’s Flight. Believe it or not, there was ONE Fastpass+ attraction that was gone for our first day. It was… “Meet Anna and Elsa with a Visiting Princess at Princess Fairytale Hall”. Luckily we have 2 days there.

Day 3 – DHS – Toy Story Midway Mania, Tower of Terror, Star Tours

Day 4 – AK – Expedition Everest, Kali River Rapids, Kilimanjaro Safari

Day 5 – Epcot – This is my BIL’s family only Epcot day so there will be a couple of repeats. Soarin, Spaceship Earth, Turtle Talk with Crush

Day 6 – MK – Meet Anna and Elsa with a Visiting Princess at Princess Fairytale Hall, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Splash Mountain.

That does it for now.

Hope you all have a great day!

Great lineup!

Sometimes I feel bad I didn't book Anna and Elsa for myself...just so I can say I went.

:rotfl:
 
GB, excited to see an update from you. Great things are slowing down for you.

On behalf of the WDW company I apologize for this fiasco, it is embarrassing. Sadly, I have no words of wisdom to help you out.

Hope your trip will still be great and look forward to reading about it.

PS: ZZub, where is he these days? There was a website some time ago, but it stopped updating, and I lost the link. I'd love to read if he is still posting somewhere.
 
I have found that sometimes an easier workaround than the calling would be to book the FP for whoever the system decided had a valid ticket. Then go in and try to copy that one to other people. Often magically, it would then show they had valid tickets and let me copy the time over. Often I actually had better luck with the app. Often. But not always.
If I have to change anything and run into that issue again, I'll try that. Thanks!

As for the hours, they can change them on the fly even if it was published already, all you can do is roll with it so try not to think too hard. I've had hours changed on me more times than I can count (so I stopped counting).
That is what I'm hoping. We booked the next day's FP's later in the afternoon anticipating not getting to bed until 2AM. I don't want to change them earlier on the off chance we arrive and find EMH is alive and well.


I can't wait to see how my own ticket drama plays out next week. I'm going to play the magic band game.

Is it...

Band #1?
Band #2?
Band #3?
Band #4?

Which one will unlock the magic of the spinning green mickey? Any? None? And will any unlock my room door?

Stay tuned to see!!!

:rotfl:
popcorn::


You mighty be surprised, SE was sporting crazy lines my last trip. Boggled my mind.
Brazilian Tour Group maybe?



Great lineup!

Sometimes I feel bad I didn't book Anna and Elsa for myself...just so I can say I went.

:rotfl:
Originally I planned to book Maelstrom FP+'s for the sheer comedic value. But with all the site drama, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to change them. Plus Soarin was already starting to run out of FP+ timeslots for the day.

GB, excited to see an update from you. Great things are slowing down for you.
Howdy! Thanks! I'm pretty happy with that myself!

On behalf of the WDW company I apologize for this fiasco, it is embarrassing. Sadly, I have no words of wisdom to help you out.

Hope your trip will still be great and look forward to reading about it.
Thanks Marita! You are such an awesome CM! I know it has to be insane on your end of things, particularly with the level of guest complaints on this particular subject.



PS: ZZub, where is he these days? There was a website some time ago, but it stopped updating, and I lost the link. I'd love to read if he is still posting somewhere.
Last I heard heard he was eating a tater tot. He switched job roles which brought even more office time and stresses his way so there haven't been any writings of late. I wish there would be though, I loved his TR's.
 
An update! :cool1:

I feel your pain on MDE, only on a much smaller level!

I have been incredibly lucky with MDE. We bought a package, so no linking tickets, but we had an easy time linking our two Orbitz stays. Everything seems like it is staying correct but we have had a few snaffus. Every now and then it seems to drop one of our tickets out of MDE, it might take minutes or hours then it "magically" reappears, this doesn't seem to affect our FP+.

Then 7DMT day came and things went CRAZY! I was one of the lucky ones who happened to wake up and get online right at the time the release of the FP's were released. I was able to snag 4 of them :rolleyes1 for each of our days at MK, before the insanity commenced! The app was crazy and saying that I only had all FP's for 3 of us, not my DH, yeah that would have went over real well. I couldn't get online to confirm because the site was crashing every few minutes. When the dust settled and the site came back up all was well, but it took days for the app to follow suit.

I DREAD using the app at WDW!!!! This will be me and my phone: :badpc::badpc::badpc::badpc: I have heard that if you just use your browser on your phone and go to the site it is easier than the app in the parks, we shall see.

You would think a company as big as Disney who plans on trying to switch an extremely popular concept such as FP, would be a little more concerned with their IT!!

I love touring plans! It really has helped me as well with switching FP's and hopefully reducing wait times! Have you downloaded the lines app from touring plans? It loads VERY fast and has current and "actual" wait times, I have heard they are pretty accurate.
 
I KNOW it will get better...

I know all of that.

But in the here and now, I can’t get there yet.

:thumbsup2 THAT is my primary complaint about MDE/FP+ - yes, I will attest that things feel a bit easier (to me, anyway) once at WDW. And in some ways, having done all the planning in advance can make for a bit less energy exerted during the trip. But I struggle mightily with the intense and immense frustration involved with the pre-trip stuff, and worst of the worst is FP+ and its touchy ways. I have experienced none of the disappearing guests, ticket linking issues, vanishing reservations (knock on wood) I see reported so frequently, and even I hit my limit of how much I can take regularly! I can point to at least 5 days we planned a WDW day and in the end said "forget it" when it became too much work to enjoy a couple rides. There's a lot of potential there, but why oh why can't Disney get some better IT going?! :confused3

Rant over. I'm glad you got things mostly worked out. I can offer this ray of light: amazingly, we've had an almost 100% success rate with making and changing FP+s on the fly once at WDW. What's taken an hour or more to complete from home, I've been able to do on my phone in 5 minutes on a park bus. I don't understand the why there, but I'll take it! :banana:
 
Nifty plans- all of them! I love how 1 night, goes to 2... and then to 3. Excellent math there. :)

You make me smile!
 
An update! :cool1:

I feel your pain on MDE, only on a much smaller level!

I have been incredibly lucky with MDE. We bought a package, so no linking tickets, but we had an easy time linking our two Orbitz stays. Everything seems like it is staying correct but we have had a few snaffus. Every now and then it seems to drop one of our tickets out of MDE, it might take minutes or hours then it "magically" reappears, this doesn't seem to affect our FP+.
I'm telling you, that Orbitz deal is my silver lining.

Then 7DMT day came and things went CRAZY! I was one of the lucky ones who happened to wake up and get online right at the time the release of the FP's were released. I was able to snag 4 of them :rolleyes1 for each of our days at MK, before the insanity commenced! The app was crazy and saying that I only had all FP's for 3 of us, not my DH, yeah that would have went over real well. I couldn't get online to confirm because the site was crashing every few minutes. When the dust settled and the site came back up all was well, but it took days for the app to follow suit.
I was so sure I was going to miss out on 7DMT. With Ana and Elsa already out of FP+ at the 60 day mark, and the explosion of people on they day the passes released, I was sure they would be gone. VERY happy to have scored a set.

I love touring plans! It really has helped me as well with switching FP's and hopefully reducing wait times! Have you downloaded the lines app from touring plans? It loads VERY fast and has current and "actual" wait times, I have heard they are pretty accurate.
Makes you wonder if maybe Disney shouldn't be take a few IT notes there.

:thumbsup2 THAT is my primary complaint about MDE/FP+ - yes, I will attest that things feel a bit easier (to me, anyway) once at WDW. And in some ways, having done all the planning in advance can make for a bit less energy exerted during the trip. But I struggle mightily with the intense and immense frustration involved with the pre-trip stuff, and worst of the worst is FP+ and its touchy ways. I have experienced none of the disappearing guests, ticket linking issues, vanishing reservations (knock on wood) I see reported so frequently, and even I hit my limit of how much I can take regularly! I can point to at least 5 days we planned a WDW day and in the end said "forget it" when it became too much work to enjoy a couple rides. There's a lot of potential there, but why oh why can't Disney get some better IT going?! :confused3
That billion dollar investment seems awfully mypoic at this point.

Rant over. I'm glad you got things mostly worked out. I can offer this ray of light: amazingly, we've had an almost 100% success rate with making and changing FP+s on the fly once at WDW. What's taken an hour or more to complete from home, I've been able to do on my phone in 5 minutes on a park bus. I don't understand the why there, but I'll take it! :banana:
That's what I'm hoping for.

Nifty plans- all of them! I love how 1 night, goes to 2... and then to 3. Excellent math there. :)

You make me smile!
:teacher: Gotta love the Disney math!

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