Bin Laden - celebrations

[NikitaZee]

But in that situation you are judging your child's actions as bad because as their parent you have the authority over them to do so. At the same time you are scolding them for doing whatever action that is and hoping to correct the action so it doesn't happen again.

In this situation neither celebrating not not celebrating is wrong therefore why would you scold the action? It would be like your child choosing to put their coat on by zipping it first and then pulling it over their head instead of putting it on and then zipping it. Sure, it might not be the way you do it but it isn't wrong, just different, and therefore needs no scolding what so ever.

Disagreeing with how someone celebrated is not the same as calling either the celebration or the person doing the celebrating disgusting. That is a judgment and no matter how much anyone says they are judging the action and not the person that isn't completely true. One's actions can't really be judged without it at least partially reflecting the person doing that action. Even in your example your child was being bad or at least misbehaving while they were performing the action you deemed bad.

I see what you are saying, but I still seperate action from person in this case. As far as judging - you bet - we all do it, every day. I really believe the OP was judging the scenes she saw, without saying each person involved was disgusting.

 

[Harley Quinn]

I have a story for you:

Sweet child 4 : What do your boogers taste like?

Sweet child 5: "yum"

Sweet child 4 : No! I mean what flavor?

Sweet child 5: "Delicious".

I both laughed and went ewwww at the same time reading that.

 

[GinnyEmma]

I morn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate just multiplies hate. Hate cannot drive out hate!!....only love can do that.

did you make that one up yourself?

 

[WDSearcher]

I didn't get from her posts that she didn't understand the difference. From what I read, she understood the two things were different, she just didn't agree with the celebration in either case. YMMV

"The dancing in the streets does remind me though of the Muslims that cheered after 911. I thought it was inappropriate then and IMO, it's inappropriate now."
This was her exact quote. When I asked her to please look again if she did not see the difference, she stated that she stood by what she said. IMHO, she is saying there is no difference.

Okay ... I totally get that that's how you read it. The way I read it, she's not saying "these two things are the same", she's saying "these two things happened and I disagree with them both." We have different interpretations. You go with yours ... I'll go with mine.

 

[JaneBanks]

I morn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate just multiplies hate. Hate cannot drive out hate!!....only love can do that.

did you make that one up yourself?

This is what I'm talking about. This is completely unnecessary and rude. This poster did not say ONE thing to deserve a response like this.

 

[GinnyEmma]

This is what I'm talking about. This is completely unnecessary and rude. This poster did not say ONE thing to deserve a response like this.

eh, quoting someone without crediting does deserve it in my book. You think it is appropriate to plagiarize?

 

[snapppyd]

Oh goody, a lesson in semantics! I wondered how long that would take.

 

[Toad_Passenger]

I don't know, I find the fact that one of my friends roots for the Boston Red Sox completely disgusting, but they're still my best friend, so I don't find them, personally, disgusting. The action is separate from the overall person.

 

[diznygirl]

I don't know, I find the fact that one of my friends roots for the Boston Red Sox completely disgusting, but they're still my best friend, so I don't find them, personally, disgusting. The action is separate from the overall person.

Are you sure? It's the Red Sox.....

 

[Toad_Passenger]

Oh goody, a lesson in semantics! I wondered how long that would take.

Come on, you love it.

The DIS is fueled by semantics, straw man arguments, hyperbole, and countless other logical fallacies...but we all love it and feed into it!

 

[DisneyChula]

Are you sure? It's the Red Sox.....

You make a very good point!

 

[Freyja]

She didn't call them disgusting. She said she was disgusted by the behavior. Big difference.

Thank you for pointing this out. Nobody seems to have read the part where I said I thought it was amazing that America had caught him! The people who celebrated do not disgust me, this single action of theirs did.

One is usually disgusted by what one finds disgusting... no?

NO!

 

[Anjelica]

did you make that one up yourself?

That is the MLK "quote" circulating the internet now - however folks need to do their homework a little better rather than spouting off things they have read on facebook, twitter, etc.

The MLK "quote" - especially the first line - was not even MLK's words.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/fake-martin-luther-king-jr-quote_n_857044.html

 

[Donaldswife]

“I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”
~Martin Luther King, Jr.

Is this the quote that is being called in to question? I don't think it is actually his if what I read is true?

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Okay, I think I've got the analogy. Let me see:

I find Osama personally repulsive and disgusting.
I find Osama's actions replusive and disgusting.
Therefore, I dance!

Signed
The Ugly American

 

[GinnyEmma]

That is the MLK "quote" circulating the internet now - however folks need to do their homework a little better then just spouting off things they have read on facebook, twitter, etc.

The MLK "quote" - especially the first line - was not even MLK's words.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/fake-martin-luther-king-jr-quote_n_857044.html

Lol, it has been mutilated. It is just now circulating that it was inaccurate.

Semantics? Just questioning the poster and the ethics. I think snappyd is confused about the definition of semantics.

 

[IdesOmarch]

I don't know how anyone can compare the celebration of the death of the greatest tyrant of our day, a person who's business was indiscriminate wholesale mass murder, with celebrations on 9/11 of the largest and most sophisticated act of terrorism killing thousands of innocent women and children. Tad bit of a dif there doncha' think?

 

[Anjelica]

“I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”
~Martin Luther King, Jr.

Is this the quote that is being called in to question? I don't think it is actually his if what I read is true?

Correct - the first line (before the word "Returning") was not Martin Luther King but rather they believe came from a facebook user who subsequently appended the rest of the "quote" after THEIR "quote".

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Oh and in case anyone was wondering, I'm not Jesus, Pope John Paul, Mother Theresa or MLK. I'll leave the forgiveness and righteousness to others. I"m not qualified. I'm too angry and too scared of what comes next. If an eye for an eye worked for thousands of years, it works for me! Who am I to judge?

 

[Freyja]

Oh and in case anyone was wondering, I'm not Jesus, Pope John Paul, Mother Theresa or MLK. I'll leave the forgiveness and righteousness to others. I"m not qualified. I'm too angry and too scared of what comes next. If an eye for an eye worked for thousands of years, it works for me! Who am I to judge?

But if it´s "an eye for an eye" wouldn´t that mean you still need to kill approx. 3000 more people?