Just a suggestion -- if your son is older than 8 or 9, I'd suggest getting the 32 gb -- 8 will get filled up really quickly. The best bet is a refurbished one from Apple -- I have the link on my google chrome bookmarks but can't get Chrome to open this morning, so you can probably go to Apple and search "refurbished." My DS16 bought one for $179. They have a brand new battery, new back plate, and have been thoroughly checked out. (these are the older iPods, though, without the camera.)