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[pigletgirl]

Laura I think you are right on!

 

[baby<3]

The people who associate with terrorists are nuts themselves, guilty or not. These people weren't randomly picked off the street and put in prison. They were put there because something was suspicious.

And yes, if these people are released, you know they will use that as yet another excuse of why the U.S. is terrible and we deserve to be attacked. I don't even know if they need more motivation to attack us, but I'm sure the release of the prisoners and hearing their accounts of what happened isn't going to hurt.

I try to think of every person having worth. But people who associate with someone who LAUGHS at buildings falling with thousands of people inside...those people are basically just a bunch of trash to me. They are doing nothing to contribute to the overall well being of this world.

I'm probably going to get flamed for being such a hateful person but I have no sympathy for terrorists and radical religious idiots. Period.

I'm with you on this. How can we be expected to show sympathy for people who take pleasure in watching innocent American citizens die?

I'm sure the families of 9/11 vicitms are not happy about this at all. After all, how can they be expected to sit back and watch terrorists/those associated with terrorists run freely?

 

[Axel]

IDK if you were referencing me, but that's not what I meant at all. Say those who don't have enough evidence against them to convict them are released, wouldn't you be afraid of revenge?

I mean, I know if I was captured, tortured, and held without proper evidence against me and considered a criminal, I'd be angry when I got released. I wouldn't commit a terrorist attack, but I'd have my lawyer all over it like white on rice.

I'm just afraid those who are released, if there are any, are going to backlash at the US with a major attack.

It wasn't directed at you. I'm just saying in general that not everybody is automatically going to attack us because we let them out.

I'm with you on this. How can we be expected to show sympathy for people who take pleasure in watching innocent American citizens die?

I'm sure the families of 9/11 vicitms are not happy about this at all. After all, how can they be expected to sit back and watch terrorists/those associated with terrorists run freely?

That'd be a great, thought-provoking line if any of the prisoners in Gitmo were responsible for the Al Quida attacks on the World Trade Center. But they're not. A lot of the prisoners in there are from the Iraq war.

And can you blame them for wanting revenge when we invaded their country with no real reason and started wiping out hundreds of thousands of their countrymen? How can they be expected to just sit back and let us take over their country? That's the other side of the coin.

It's like Vietnam all over again- you can never be sure who you're fighting. Your barber could cut your hair one day and shoot at you the next. Everyone's "suspicious".

But what we took out of the Vietnam war is that many people have the capacity to forgive. Many Vietnamese people no longer hold grudges agaisnt the US, even though we killed over 500,000 of their compatriots.

 

[petey's sweetie]

I love Obama

 

[BabyPiglet]

The Obama administration is being advised (by a UN official) to charge Bush for GITMO tortures.

 

[chisnpeke]

The Obama administration is being advised (by a UN official) to charge Bush for GITMO tortures.

I'll be disappointed in Obama if he does that.

 

[andy.b]

It wasn't directed at you. I'm just saying in general that not everybody is automatically going to attack us because we let them out.



That'd be a great, thought-provoking line if any of the prisoners in Gitmo were responsible for the Al Quida attacks on the World Trade Center. But they're not. A lot of the prisoners in there are from the Iraq war.

And can you blame them for wanting revenge when we invaded their country with no real reason and started wiping out hundreds of thousands of their countrymen? How can they be expected to just sit back and let us take over their country? That's the other side of the coin.

It's like Vietnam all over again- you can never be sure who you're fighting. Your barber could cut your hair one day and shoot at you the next. Everyone's "suspicious".

But what we took out of the Vietnam war is that many people have the capacity to forgive. Many Vietnamese people no longer hold grudges agaisnt the US, even though we killed over 500,000 of their compatriots.

Just saw this article...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_al_qaida

 

[chisnpeke]

Just saw this article...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_al_qaida

I'm not surprised.

 

[imabrat]

The people who associate with terrorists are nuts themselves, guilty or not. These people weren't randomly picked off the street and put in prison. They were put there because something was suspicious.

And yes, if these people are released, you know they will use that as yet another excuse of why the U.S. is terrible and we deserve to be attacked. I don't even know if they need more motivation to attack us, but I'm sure the release of the prisoners and hearing their accounts of what happened isn't going to hurt.

I try to think of every person having worth. But people who associate with someone who LAUGHS at buildings falling with thousands of people inside...those people are basically just a bunch of trash to me. They are doing nothing to contribute to the overall well being of this world.

I'm probably going to get flamed for being such a hateful person but I have no sympathy for terrorists and radical religious idiots. Period.

No, I totally agree with you.

 

[imabrat]

Just saw this article...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_al_qaida

Oh dear.
That's EXACTLY what I was trying to relay in my messages, and that's EXACTLY what I'm afraid of.

 

[BabyPiglet]

Just saw this article...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_al_qaida

Yeah, read about that earlier. I think that is exactly what everyone is afraid of.

These terrorists will be released back to their countries, where they might actually be in some kind of position of power (not seen as 'bad') and released.

On the other note, I do not in anyway think GWB should charged with anything. I might not have agreed with all of his decisions, but he doesn't deserve that.

 

[crazytp93]

Yeah, read about that earlier. I think that is exactly what everyone is afraid of.

These terrorists will be released back to their countries, where they might actually be in some kind of position of power (not seen as 'bad') and released.

On the other note, I do not in anyway think GWB should charged with anything. I might not have agreed with all of his decisions, but he doesn't deserve that.

ITA.

I think both things are wrong.

Gitmo- those TERRORISTS, people who killed INNOCENT americans are going to be sent back to their home countries so they can be worshipped by their people, and start plotting againts the US again. Great idea.

And I do not think GWB should be charged with war crimes. He kept us safe after 9/11, and I don't care what means he had to use to do that.

 

[chisnpeke]

ITA.

I think both things are wrong.

Gitmo- those TERRORISTS, people who killed INNOCENT americans are going to be sent back to their home countries so they can be worshipped by their people, and start plotting againts the US again. Great idea.

And I do not think GWB should be charged with war crimes. He kept us safe after 9/11, and I don't care what means he had to use to do that.

I agree. I always liked Bush as a person. I didn't agree with everything he did but I always found him to be likeable and human and a decent guy. I realize a lot of people have hate for him though. I always felt safe with him as president. I did not mind one bit about giving up some of my rights to stay safe as I had nothing to hide. Apparently others feel Bush should be thrown in jail. It seems to me that people sometimes value these terrorists' lives more than Americans' lives.

 

[HouseMD1120]

I agree. I always liked Bush as a person. I didn't agree with everything he did but I always found him to be likeable and human and a decent guy. I realize a lot of people have hate for him though. I always felt safe with him as president. I did not mind one bit about giving up some of my rights to stay safe as I had nothing to hide. Apparently others feel Bush should be thrown in jail. It seems to me that people sometimes value these terrorists' lives more than Americans' lives.

I'll be disappointed in Obama if he does that.

Me too

No, I totally agree with you.

I do too.

 

[Babyjustrun]

I still believe that closing this prison is a good idea. However, if it can't be done, the torture needs to be stopped, and court proceedings NEED to happen.
While SOME are terrorists, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE.
Think about it, you're foreign, you go to a country, you do something suspicious and they arrest you. But your country is not willing to step in and do the appropriate thing, and the country you're in couldn't give a crap.
That'd suck bigtime.
People can be wrongly accused, it happens all the time.
You can't just keep shoving people in a prison without giving them a fair trial.
And some of those 'terrorists' aren't from Iraq or the middle east. They're citizens from various places (England, France, Canada, and other countries that are held in high respect), places that aren't just gonna be like 'Oh well you were arrested in the US, whatevs'

 

[KidGoofy]

I dont think you guys know but they deport about 95% of the suspicious and the others that are there were picked up during war. I found that out because a famous singer, Cat Stevens, converted to Muslim, his new name is Yusif Islam, and they had a thing about it, and now he is on a look out list type thing.

 

[Fatphil32]

Some of the post in this thread have to be some jokes... We invaded Iraq for no reason? Does anyone not have any knowledge of what has been going on there for hundreds of years... recently it struck the WTC in the 1990's and then again in 2001. Do you guys realize what has been changed over there? Does anyone not think for one moment that some good actually did come out of the war. I'm all for Ron Paul, who wants to bring all troops home, but the war actually did good. They're now becoming a more stabilized country and at least the civil war they've been fighting for hundreds of years has taken a yield. Seriously... Bush may have been a ****ty president, but all presidents do good and he's brought some to us and Iraq. Funny thing is, we all want to criticize him for going over there, but ya know what? We've been safe now for over seven years without a terrorist attack. The men in the Army are willing to risk their lives for us. No one takes a moment to realize that. Every time I see someone in the Army, I thank them for their service. At least Iraq isn't as corrupted as some of our thoughts.

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[KidGoofy]

Some of the post in this thread have to be some jokes... We invaded Iraq for no reason? Does anyone not have any knowledge of what has been going on there for hundreds of years... recently it struck the WTC in the 1990's and then again in 2001. Do you guys realize what has been changed over there? Does anyone not think for one moment that some good actually did come out of the war. I'm all for Ron Paul, who wants to bring all troops home, but the war actually did good. They're now becoming a more stabilized country and at least the civil war they've been fighting for hundreds of years has taken a yield. Seriously... Bush may have been a ****ty president, but all presidents do good and he's brought some to us and Iraq. Funny thing is, we all want to criticize him for going over there, but ya know what? We've been safe now for over seven years without a terrorist attack. The men in the Army are willing to risk their lives for us. No one takes a moment to realize that. Every time I see someone in the Army, I thank them for their service. At least Iraq isn't as corrupted as some of our thoughts.

[/end_of_rant]

Thank you

 

[imabrat]

Some of the post in this thread have to be some jokes... We invaded Iraq for no reason? Does anyone not have any knowledge of what has been going on there for hundreds of years... recently it struck the WTC in the 1990's and then again in 2001. Do you guys realize what has been changed over there? Does anyone not think for one moment that some good actually did come out of the war. I'm all for Ron Paul, who wants to bring all troops home, but the war actually did good. They're now becoming a more stabilized country and at least the civil war they've been fighting for hundreds of years has taken a yield. Seriously... Bush may have been a ****ty president, but all presidents do good and he's brought some to us and Iraq. Funny thing is, we all want to criticize him for going over there, but ya know what? We've been safe now for over seven years without a terrorist attack. The men in the Army are willing to risk their lives for us. No one takes a moment to realize that. Every time I see someone in the Army, I thank them for their service. At least Iraq isn't as corrupted as some of our thoughts.

[/end_of_rant]

The only thing we agree on is that former President Bush kept us safe. Yes, he made some horribly stupid moves, but he kept us safe and I admire him for that. I admire anyone willing to take on a major political official's position.

That said, it was NONE of our business to go into Iraq. Afghanistan? Heck yeah. We needed to let the Afghani terrorists know that we weren't going to take their crap anymore. But to invade another country and tear it down because we don't like their government is idiotic. Reverse the roles for a second. Would you like it if someone invaded the US, terrorized us, and switch our government? Who are they to decide we need a new government, even if it is painfully obvious?

That, my friends, is why many foreigners dislike America - because we stick our noses where they don't belong.


Maybe I'm right, and maybe I'm painfully wrong, but I'm basing this off my knowledge. JMO.

 

[KidGoofy]

The only thing we agree on is that former President Bush kept us safe. Yes, he made some horribly stupid moves, but he kept us safe and I admire him for that. I admire anyone willing to take on a major political official's position.

That said, it was NONE of our business to go into Iraq. Afghanistan? Heck yeah. We needed to let the Afghani terrorists know that we weren't going to take their crap anymore. But to invade another country and tear it down because we don't like their government is idiotic. Reverse the roles for a second. Would you like it if someone invaded the US, terrorized us, and switch our government? Who are they to decide we need a new government, even if it is painfully obvious?

That, my friends, is why many foreigners dislike America - because we stick our noses where they don't belong.


Maybe I'm right, and maybe I'm painfully wrong, but I'm basing this off my knowledge. JMO.

We did catch the 2nd most wanted person(Saddam Hussain) in the world. And help fix the government that he messed up, and saved many innocent lives that he could have killed in the future. And no it was not for gas.