Ban Non-Resort Guests from Poly/GF/CR for Wishes!!!

[minnie mum]

Yes it was. Truthfully, I'm thinking that's what the op would like to see, considering he posted over on one of the Poly threads that one of the things he liked about the Poly is that it has "fewer trashy people" who stay there.

And I'm staying at the GF in 2 weeks. I'm hoping for even a better class of peole there. Nobody better block my view of Wishes!!

So your desire to ban/restrict non-guests from the Monorail resort Wishes viewing areas stems from your desire to keep the 'trash' and 'lower class' from contaminating your environs? Sorry to burst your bubble, but true 'class' is not determined by the size of your wallet. Some of the trashiest people I have ever met have had the wherewithall to stay in 5 star suites.

Perhaps Disney will hear your pleas. They can post prominent signs all around the beach/dock areas (imagine how appealing they will look) and hire extra security staff to patrol these areas in the evenings, checking every person's ID and throwing out the riff raff. I'm sure they'll just shrug off any decrease in revenues when non-resort guests stop visiting the restaurants, lounges and shops there. They can easily make up for all of these added expenses by increasing the room rates at the monorail resorts.

 

[larryz]

I have this mental picture of barbed wire between the resort and beach areas, and some guy looking like an SS Officer walking around asking "May I see your papers."

No, it's easier and not as authoritarian to place a sign on tables, and stencil onto chairs, "Reserved for our Polynesian Resort guests."

Otherwise, I could see them checking out beach chairs like they do the resort swim towels...show a Poly KTTW, get a chair.

I agree with those who say the beach is a WDW common area, but that chairs and tables are amenities of the resort, and should rightly be reserved for those paying to stay there.

 

[CampbellScot]

I think that everyone NOT staying at the Poly but happens to be at Ohana during Wishes should be commanded not to look out the windows while the show is on! That way they won't be getting to see anything from a prime location they didn't pay for! The NERVE of some people! Seriously?

When we have stayed at the poly I don't notice, nor can I distinguish who has paid to be there and who has not. If I want a hammock or chair, I get myself down to the beach and snag one. If they are taken, oh well. My fault for not getting down there sooner.

 

[crostorfer]

And I'm staying at the GF in 2 weeks. I'm hoping for even a better class of people there. Nobody better block my view of Wishes!!

*facepalm*

I was with you until this statement. I'm going to assume you are joking though. Quite frankly, there are trashy people at all levels of resorts.

And for the record, by all means I think people should be able to come to the Polynesian to eat and shop. It's a beautiful resort. However, as someone who stays there frequently, I would like it very much if they made the beach/pool area a key card access area with a fence for resort guests only.

 

[Traveliz]

I think that everyone NOT staying at the Poly but happens to be at Ohana during Wishes should be commanded not to look out the windows while the show is on! That way they won't be getting to see anything from a prime location they didn't pay for! The NERVE of some people! Seriously?

When we have stayed at the poly I don't notice, nor can I distinguish who has paid to be there and who has not. If I want a hammock or chair, I get myself down to the beach and snag one. If they are taken, oh well. My fault for not getting down there sooner.

Love this - I tell you my family laughs when we are at our condo telling one another not to look at the fireworks since we haven't paid to see them!

Liz

 

[cjsm&d]

I guess the reason I'm taking this so lightly is that there really is no big issue, because this happens only 3 or 4 times a year max.

I highly doubt all the thrashy mod and value guests rush over to the poly and GF to lounge on beach all day. It's about a couple of special days a year where folks from the other side of the tracks want to see wishes from a cool vantage point.

I do hope they properly delouse the furniture after those value types leave for the night.

 

[AimeeMichele]

Ok perhaps a little extreme, but I really feel that Resort Guests should get some sort of preference to watch Wishes. Why should the chairs, lounges, hammocks, etc. be used by non-resort guests? Let non-resort guests watch from a less preferred area. Am I wrong?

Curious what others think

I agree 1000%

 

[crostorfer]

I guess the reason I'm taking this so lightly is that there really is no big issue, because this happens only 3 or 4 times a year max.

I highly doubt all the thrashy mod and value guests rush over to the poly and GF to lounge on beach all day. It's about a couple of special days a year where folks from the other side of the tracks want to see wishes from a cool vantage point.

I do hope they properly delouse the furniture after those value types leave for the night.

If you don't frequently stay at the Polynesian yourself, then I suppose you wouldn't see any issue with this. I, however, do. It doesn't have a thing to do with snobbery, or thinking that I'm above anyone, or that people who don't stay deluxe are "lower class". It has everything to do with amenities available at a resort that you are paying for being readily available to you at all times. If the Pop Century was a good place to see Fireworks, and people flocked there, if I was a guest at that resort I would feel the same way.

That's an interesting point though. The value resorts are huge in size compared to the Poly, and could accommodate hundreds of extra guests crowding the common areas more easily than the tiny, 40 year old Poly can, so I can't really use that as a comparison.

If you want to hang out poolside at the Poly, or lounge on their beach in a lounge chair, pay to stay there. People like to call out snobbery and entitlement on these types of threads, but it goes both ways as evidenced by some replies to thus thread. Why would one think that if they stay at one resort that they are entitled to go to another resort and use their facilities at leisure?

 

[ols386]

Truthfullly (as you state), in my honest opinion (although I was told by you that I can't have one), am I being stalked here on Disboards?

In case you hadn't noticed, prior posts are frequently brought up on other threads.

I think this thread related very specifically to your posts on that other Poly thread, that's why I brought it up.

 

[Notso]

If you don't frequently stay at the Polynesian yourself, then I suppose you wouldn't see any issue with this. I, however, do. It doesn't have a thing to do with snobbery, or thinking that I'm above anyone, or that people who don't stay deluxe are "lower class". It has everything to do with amenities available at a resort that you are paying for being readily available to you at all times. If the Pop Century was a good place to see Fireworks, and people flocked there, if I was a guest at that resort I would feel the same way.

That's an interesting point though. The value resorts are huge in size compared to the Poly, and could accommodate hundreds of extra guests crowding the common areas more easily than the tiny, 40 year old Poly can, so I can't really use that as a comparison.

If you want to hang out poolside at the Poly, or lounge on their beach in a lounge chair, pay to stay there. People like to call out snobbery and entitlement on these types of threads, but it goes both ways as evidenced by some replies to thus thread. Why would one think that if they stay at one resort that they are entitled to go to another resort and use their facilities at leisure?

I've only ever stayed at Deluxes (though never Poly), and honestly they've seemed plenty big to me. So, I have an honest question. How do you even know the people on the beach aren't primarily Poly guests? Last time we stayed at the GF, it seemed as though there were more than enough legitimate guests there to fill the beaches. Fortunately it was never a problem.

 

[Traveliz]

If you don't frequently stay at the Polynesian yourself, then I suppose you wouldn't see any issue with this. I, however, do. It doesn't have a thing to do with snobbery, or thinking that I'm above anyone, or that people who don't stay deluxe are "lower class". It has everything to do with amenities available at a resort that you are paying for being readily available to you at all times. If the Pop Century was a good place to see Fireworks, and people flocked there, if I was a guest at that resort I would feel the same way.

That's an interesting point though. The value resorts are huge in size compared to the Poly, and could accommodate hundreds of extra guests crowding the common areas more easily than the tiny, 40 year old Poly can, so I can't really use that as a comparison.

If you want to hang out poolside at the Poly, or lounge on their beach in a lounge chair, pay to stay there. People like to call out snobbery and entitlement on these types of threads, but it goes both ways as evidenced by some replies to thus thread. Why would one think that if they stay at one resort that they are entitled to go to another resort and use their facilities at leisure?

I stay at the Poly; only concierge and have stayed there 6-8 times for no shorter than four days and most being 7-8. I am speaking honestly when I say I have never thought it too crowded for additional people/guests/townspeople/whatever. I was there on the 2-5 of July a couple of years ago and it still didn't bother me. One night we went to Epcot and the other we watched from our room...there is always more room on the beach...always. There is room on Sunset Pointe, there is room on the sidewalks. The Poly front property is long and stretches a long way with suitable viewing spots all the way along. My preferred spot is not by the pool (which I will agree gets busy) and there is ALWAYS room for more people.

I go to the Poly at least 5 times a year to watch fireworks (typically one of the 4th presentations, one of the New Year's presentation, maybe a Halloween or Christmas party one and one or two when we have company and want to show them a different view. We don't steal chairs, heck I don't like sand so we stand and there is never (even on the 4th or NYE) no one within 5-10 feet from us.

What do I see on these busy night...lots more CMs getting hours (and holiday pay at that); huge lines at Captain Cooks (the line on the third reached to the shops), filled lobbies and lines at the gift shops...we waited through about 5 customer groups to buy snacks upstairs. I can't imagine that the Poly would want to give up that revenue.

Now as far as the GF or Contemporary...I do not like the views from either of those hotels and will still go to the Poly to watch the fireworks.

If they want to fence off an area in front of the pool for resort guests - that would be great. And if I was a Poly guest I would still prefer my balcony or my other spot along the beach front.

Liz

 

[ols386]

*facepalm*

I was with you until this statement. I'm going to assume you are joking though. Quite frankly, there are trashy people at all levels of resorts.

And for the record, by all means I think people should be able to come to the Polynesian to eat and shop. It's a beautiful resort. However, as someone who stays there frequently, I would like it very much if they made the beach/pool area a key card access area with a fence for resort guests only.

And they could do that relatively easy. Probably wouldn't take that much time to put up a fence, but wouldn't that ruin the view/look? To have a fence all along that area?

I've only stayed at the Poly once and loved it. Have never gone to any of the monorail resorts just to watch fireworks.

When I did stay at the Poly, and went out on the beach to watch the fireworks, there really weren't all that many people around (understanding that there are other times when it is crowded).

How would I even know if someone on the beach watching the fireworks, was not actually staying at the Poly, unless I just happened to hear them say something about it?

 

[cjsm&d]

If you don't frequently stay at the Polynesian yourself, then I suppose you wouldn't see any issue with this. I, however, do. It doesn't have a thing to do with snobbery, or thinking that I'm above anyone, or that people who don't stay deluxe are "lower class". It has everything to do with amenities available at a resort that you are paying for being readily available to you at all times. If the Pop Century was a good place to see Fireworks, and people flocked there, if I was a guest at that resort I would feel the same way.

That's an interesting point though. The value resorts are huge in size compared to the Poly, and could accommodate hundreds of extra guests crowding the common areas more easily than the tiny, 40 year old Poly can, so I can't really use that as a comparison.

If you want to hang out poolside at the Poly, or lounge on their beach in a lounge chair, pay to stay there. People like to call out snobbery and entitlement on these types of threads, but it goes both ways as evidenced by some replies to thus thread. Why would one think that if they stay at one resort that they are entitled to go to another resort and use their facilities at leisure?

First, they have a strict policy for the pool area, so you don't have to worry about that.

Second, I highly doubt there are a lot of people from other resorts hanging out on the beach at Poly and GF. I doubt people staying at the mods or values take a day to hang on a beach they can't swim in near a pool they can't swim in.

Third, I have stayed at the EPCOT deluxe resorts, and I never resented the crowds at SOB, and I did stay before they started policing who was in the pool. It's a great pool! I understand why they had to get strict on pools, because it was becoming an issue for the resort guests to enjoy the pool. Folks on the Boardwalk have to share ALL their amenities with the rest of WDW.

If I thought for one minute that guests at Poly regularly really have a hard time getting chairs and hanging on the beach daily, then I'd have a little more sympathy for them. I go to Poly every trip for Kona and/or Ohana, and I always have one of theose pineapple drinks and walk around. I have never seen the beach even half full of people.

BTW, I was just trying to be funny, and not directing my last post at anyone in particular.

 

[minnie mum]

If you want to hang out poolside at the Poly, or lounge on their beach in a lounge chair, pay to stay there. People like to call out snobbery and entitlement on these types of threads, but it goes both ways as evidenced by some replies to thus thread. Why would one think that if they stay at one resort that they are entitled to go to another resort and use their facilities at leisure?

I don't think anyone here has any argument with the pool being for resort guests only. This is a WDW - wide rule that applies to everybody (except DVC members). But public areas are just that- open to the public. Exactly where do you draw the line when it comes to resort facilities? You can sit on the sand but not in a chair? You can be in the lobby but not sit on a sofa? You can have a reservation at a restaurant, but the resort guests get priority? Everyone must display their resort ID at all times to ensure proper segregation of non-resort guests? This is just too big of a can of worms. Maybe we should just simplify the whole process and close all resorts to visitors.

 

[LSUfan4444]

So, I just want to make sure I am up to speed.

The people who think it is a problem that they are Poly guests and for the busiest nights of the year might not be able to get a chair or a table because someone else who may or may not be a guest of the Poly has already occupied those items, also refuses other opportunities for private viewing of wishes thinks that the solution to this problem is to restrict the tables and chairs for non guests of the Poly, or have a seperate section al together for one group or the other insetad of just getting there early?

I wish I could say I am surpised, but sadly, I am not.

I just can't wait until I stay at the Contemporary again so I don't have to wait for a table or stand in line at Chef Mickey's behind someone who is staying at Port Orleans, or *cue gasp* offsite.

 

[summersalt]

I have to admit that I have watched Wishes from the Poly beach dreaming of the day that I could actually stay there. And finally, the day arrived! Don't get me wrong, I loved my stay at the Poly, but this is the reason that it's not my favorite resort. Too many non-resort guests crowding the lobby and the beach. I'll just save my money, stay somewhere else, and watch Wishes from MK.

 

[livie1205]

really??? WOW , I have stayed at all the resorts over the years including poly ( did not like the rooms much but DID get engaged on the beach during w wishes there wishes while staying at POP!) we have been to ohanas every trip and watched wishes after dinner.I have NEVER thought the beach was crowded or saw anyone that didnt have a place to watch from....the beach goes almost all the way to GF where you can sit,there is PLENTY of room.I may stay there again, I may not but I know I will sit and watch wishes again ( for dure in dec ). Its silly to argue about.

 

[Waltgirl]

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Throwing my two cents in, having stayed at Poly the past 4 years in a row, we do find crowds to be VERY large during the fireworks. That said, it is very frustrating, as a guest of that resort, to find hundreds (yes, hundreds) of folks scattered all over the lawn, beach and walkways. Folks take chairs from the pool area and place them right on the walkways to watch the fireworks, and there are literally no lounge chairs on the beach to be had. It is very frustrating.

In summary, I guess I do have a problem, when I am staying at Poly, with the beach/pool/walkways/lawns being packed with folks and not being able to find a place to watch for my family and myself.

There are 847 rooms at the Poly. Assuming four people per room, that is over 3300 people that can be guests of the resort. Considering the time of night the fireworks are held, isn't it possible that the majority of people on the beach are Poly resort guests?

I don't know the seating capacity for Ohana but not everyone who eats there around fireworks time will hang around to go out on the beach to watch. I just don't believe an enormous amount of guests are coming over to the Poly just to watch the fireworks. Some perhaps but not enough to make as huge an impact as some are stating.

 

[gogo]

I'm surprised at some people saying they would sit on the sand and not a chair if one was available if they were not a guest at the Poly. If, I read the posts correctly. Until Disney says I couldn't sit there, I would not feel guilty at all using a chair or hammock as a non-Poly guest.

Breaking rules is one thing but if there are no rules about using the chairs, etc on the beach what is the issue? Why would anyone feel guilty?

Part of the enjoyment of going to Disney is visiting other resorts for dinner, the atmosphere, etc. If the hotels are roped off for things other than the pools, that takes away from the overall feel of each resort. You would be asking for a lot of problems from guests trying to play police telling other people to move, etc.

I've stayed at the Poly twice but never went to watch fireworks on the beach when not a guest. But, if I wanted to, it would be nice to know that I could.

 

[Deb & Bill]

There are 847 rooms at the Poly. Assuming four people per room, that is over 3300 people that can be guests of the resort. Considering the time of night the fireworks are held, isn't it possible that the majority of people on the beach are Poly resort guests?

I don't know the seating capacity for Ohana but not everyone who eats there around fireworks time will hang around to go out on the beach to watch. I just don't believe an enormous amount of guests are coming over to the Poly just to watch the fireworks. Some perhaps but not enough to make as huge an impact as some are stating.

Nope, many of them are watching from their lagoon view rooms. Or their own patios unless someone else has stolen the chairs from their patio.

If you read the resorts board much, you'll see lots of people suggesting to watch the fireworks from the Polynesian. Parking at the Polynesian to go the MK so they can get out of the parking area more easily after the MK closes. You read it on this thread from posters saying they watch the fireworks from the Polynesian and don't stay there.

I'd give the diners at the Polynesian restaurants a bye on this. They've spent money at the resort.