Ban Non-Resort Guests from Poly/GF/CR for Wishes!!!

[Deb & Bill]

Ok perhaps a little extreme, but I really feel that Resort Guests should get some sort of preference to watch Wishes. Why should the chairs, lounges, hammocks, etc. be used by non-resort guests? Let non-resort guests watch from a less preferred area. Am I wrong?

Curious what others think

I agree. You should get what you paid for. Anyone who wants to use the Polynesian ammenities to watch the fireworks, etc, should be a paying guest at that resort. However, should the Polynesian want to allow non-Polynesian guests the opportunity to watch the fireworks, etc, they could dedicate a small area for these guests without chairs, hammocks, etc. But chairs, hammocks, etc should be reserved for the resort guests.

 

[BabyFu18]

When we stayed at the Poly a couple years ago, non-resort guests watching the fireworks didn't bother me. Some nights we'd walk to the beach by the volcano pool and the chairs would be full, but I didn't mind standing. I knew after the first night if we wanted a chair we'd leave our room a little earlier to ensure we had a place to sit.

If someone (resort guest or not) was using our patio or standing right in front of our patio I'd have an issue with that, but I don't know the beach fireworks thing didn't bother me. I do believe durning high traffic times like the 4th of July it could be a problem so maybe having the beach just be for resort guestndurning those times would be ok.

As far as having certain less preferred viewing area for non-resort guests and preferred areas be resort guest only I don't think that'd ever happen.

 

[maxiesmom]

Think about it this way: How magical would your view of Wishes be with Beach Police walking up and down (and getting in your way) telling people they needed to leave? How magical would it be with a bunch of ropes on the beach to separate it into resort guests and non resort guests? And the Beach Police having to stand their sorting people?

I can't see how that would be magical at all. Bu then, I don't poll the people at the resorts, sitting in the chairs, on if they are staying at that resort or not. Just not a big deal to me.

The reason they keep pools strictly for resort guests is that the have a very limited capacity. The beaches can hold quite a large number of people. Plus as another poster pointed out, Disney makes money from visitors eating and buying drinks while on the beach. No way would they want to stop that!

 

[Bettie]

Please, having the ability to view Wishes from Poly/GF after dinner is one of the major draws of the dinner restaurants at those resorts. They would get WAY fewer people headed over to 'Ohana etc. if they couldn't watch the fireworks in conjunction with their dinner plans. Also, once you get people there on property watching after dinner, they are more likely to start to see the merits of upgrading on their next trip. Disney knows this. They aren't stupid. They know how to make more money.

Plus, I have been during low crowds and peak weeks (tho admittedly not over NYE or July 4th, the peak of the peak for fireworks) and the crowds are just really not that big of a deal on the beaches from what I have seen. During Spring Break/Easter week, sure, the beach fills up, but it's not like there aren't plenty of viewing areas. It's not like trying to get a spot to watch the evening parade in the Hub where it's literally wall-to-wall people.

 

[Sammie]

Complain to Disney, only they will be able to change this. It is definitely a problem at certain times.

 

[Waltgirl]

Restricting access to general resort areas would be quite a change for WDW long established policy. Currently a resort guest is a resort wide guest. Access for all.

I believe the no pool hopping policy is a pretty recent change, perhaps in the nineties? Maybe someone here knows for sure when it was instituted. But I agree it was instituted due to limited capacity of the pool areas. Otherwise imagine how overcrowded SAB would be! There was also a time that WDW attempted to restrict the resort monorail to resort guests alone. That policy didn't last very long.

Certainly there is a chance that the Resort division would be willing to or has already entertained the possibility of restricting guess access to certain resort areas. I would recommend anyone interested contact Kevin Myers or Meg Crofton.

 

[dzorn]

The only time I've watched wishes from the Poly 75% of the beach chairs were empty and even a few hammocks were empty.

Denise in MI

 

[poly princess]

I totally agree with you. It makes total sense to me!

 

[CanadianPaco]

I have to admit, the one time we went to watch Wishes from the Poly Beach, we felt like we were doing something wrong. We've only ever stayed on site but not at the Poly. We haven't done it again. We've also had dinner at the Cali Grill and considered being able to watch from the 15th floor a restaurant perk, not a hotel thing. Interesting thread but I suspect things will be heating up...

 

[Notso]

I didn't even know about the wishes from the beach thing until my travel agent told me about it. So, we've booked a dinner at Poly just to see the resort, eat and watch the fireworks. I don't really feel like I'm trespassing since I'm not a punk and won't be actively trying to keep hotel guests from watching or standing in anyone's patio. We'll likely pop out of Kona, sit on the sand drink something out of a pineapple and watch.

If the beach viewing was limited to only resort guests, we wouldn't be going to dinner there. I doubt resort guests want to eat at Poly restaurants every night of their stay, so I can't imagine the restaurants being as hot a ticket without this perk.

 

[*Fantasia*]

Anything wrong with watching the fireworks from Magic Kingdom. They'll be a lot closer and see the fireworks clearer. No commuting needed when you're right there. Do people not like watching them at the park anymore? Heavy crowds are expected after the fireworks. Maybe watching it from afar near the entrance may be better or people can hang around the park until the crowds die down.

 

[Fruto76]

I don't think the views on resort property should be reserved for guests staying at that particular resort. The fireworks are a MK event and they are not exclusive to guests inside the park that paid admission, so why should outside the MK be any different?

 

[KuyaJeff]

Hmm, I can't say that I've personally "taken advantage" of a beach view from one of the monorail resorts of the spectacular that is Wishes... as either a guest of these resorts or not. But based on what others have said...it makes me want to see it that much more from the beach.

I figure that if a registered guest of one of these resorts feels that much inclined to feel entitled to a view of the fireworks, they should probably get a room with a Theme-Park or Lagoon view to guarantee themselves this "entitlement". Like the PP has mentioned, the fireworks are based in MK park, technically, these resort guests haven't paid to enjoy these fireworks. You can stay at a Disney Resort Hotel without evenp aying admission for a theme park.

I feel that this kind of mentatility would be the same as not letting non-registered guests to sit in the lobbies of other resorts like AKL or WL to take in the spectacle that is the architecture of their grand lobbies while waiting for an ADR.

I think that the freedom guests have to go between resorts and parks as they please just to take in the ambience is one fo the greatest things about Disney. If they were to restrict access to the beaches, they might as well enforce which guests go on the buses. Let's face it, Disney wouldn't want to hire all the extra CMs to enforce these rules.

 

[Planogirl]

We've spent plenty of money at the Polynesian Resort over the years and I see nothing wrong with us watching the fireworks from the beach. However, we don't use any of the chairs because I do believe that those should be for the use of hotel guests. However I have never seen the beach particularly busy - in fact it's really quite deserted during those times.

 

[Sammie]

Hmm, I can't say that I've personally "taken advantage" of a beach view from one of the monorail resorts of the spectacular that is Wishes... as either a guest of these resorts or not. But based on what others have said...it makes me want to see it that much more from the beach.

I figure that if a registered guest of one of these resorts feels that much inclined to feel entitled to a view of the fireworks, they should probably get a room with a Theme-Park or Lagoon view to guarantee themselves this "entitlement". Like the PP has mentioned, the fireworks are based in MK park, technically, these resort guests haven't paid to enjoy these fireworks. You can stay at a Disney Resort Hotel without evenp aying admission for a theme park.

I feel that this kind of mentatility would be the same as not letting non-registered guests to sit in the lobbies of other resorts like AKL or WL to take in the spectacle that is the architecture of their grand lobbies while waiting for an ADR.

I think that the freedom guests have to go between resorts and parks as they please just to take in the ambience is one fo the greatest things about Disney. If they were to restrict access to the beaches, they might as well enforce which guests go on the buses. Let's face it, Disney wouldn't want to hire all the extra CMs to enforce these rules.

We did pay for a theme park view and were given a first floor room. Came back to our room in time to sit on the patio, only to have our chairs taken off the patio by someone wanting to use them to watch the fireworks.

We don't stay there anymore.

 

[maxiesmom]

We did pay for a theme park view and were given a first floor room. Came back to our room in time to sit on the patio, only to have our chairs taken off the patio by someone wanting to use them to watch the fireworks.

We don't stay there anymore.

Wow really? That was way out of line, and would have made me pretty angry.

 

[crostorfer]

I agree with you, in spades. I'm usually in the minority though. I'm not even staying at the Poly this trip, and I still agree with you. I won't go to the beach to watch Wishes if I'm not staying there, I find it rude to take up space that people who are paying for it can utilize.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

I'm in the minority too. I've always felt that the loungers, swings and hammocks on the Poly beach should be for Poly guests. It's not really the beach area that I have a problem with it's when paying guests can't even get a chair to sit on.

We're planning on doing a split stay next summer with the first part of our trip at the GF. It will be over the 4th of July. I'm going crazy wondering if I will have to pay $150 more a night for a TPV room (over a gv room) because we won't be able to get a seat by the marina or docks to watch the 4th of July MK fireworks. Is it fair that someone who is paying $79 a night at an off site resort gets to take up the table and chair space near Gasparilla's to watch the fireworks while if I pay $515 (rack rate for a gv GF room) won't be able to get a seat?

At a minimum I think they should restrict those viewing areas at least on popular holidays.

 

[crostorfer]

I'm in the minority too. I've always felt that the loungers, swings and hammocks on the Poly beach should be for Poly guests. It's not really the beach area that I have a problem with it's when paying guests can't even get a chair to sit on.

We're planning on doing a split stay next summer with the first part of our trip at the GF. It will be over the 4th of July. I'm going crazy wondering if I will have to pay $150 more a night for a TPV room (over a gv room) because we won't be able to get a seat by the marina or docks to watch the 4th of July MK fireworks. Is it fair that someone who is paying $79 a night at an off site resort gets to take up the table and chair space near Gasparilla's to watch the fireworks while if I pay $515 (rack rate for a gv GF room) won't be able to get a seat?

At a minimum I think they should restrict those viewing areas at least on popular holidays.

You and I are our own minority, LOL, we always agree on this issue.

 

[BLTtinkerbell]

If they were to restrict access to the beaches, they might as well enforce which guests go on the buses. Let's face it, Disney wouldn't want to hire all the extra CMs to enforce these rules.

Way back, you could only ride the monorail if you were a resort guest. They did enforce it by asking to see your room key.

We did pay for a theme park view and were given a first floor room. Came back to our room in time to sit on the patio, only to have our chairs taken off the patio by someone wanting to use them to watch the fireworks.

We don't stay there anymore.

Wow, that is terrible! I would have called the front desk.