Bad Verandah Experience...

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It sounds like KeenHo did his due diligence pre-cruise when booking his room, and still ran afoul of an ill-informed cast member -- we just had the same experience, but thanks to this thread, we were able to catch it.

We've just booked on the 10/5 Magic cruise in October, and chose a "navigator's verandah" room 5638. We're first time cruisers, but thought we had done our due diligence as well, looking at drawings and pricing different options. After asking explicitly about rooms and verandahs and what you got for the difference in price, we were told twice that the difference is the navigator's verandah has a solid metal rail, not the bars and plexiglass.

The drawings on the web site and in the brochure do not at all show the true difference as to what a navigator's verandah is....they just outline the porch area and you cannot possibly see what your view is. And there are no renderings of the ship looking at it straight on that I've been able to find....and should I really have to find a picture of the boat and figure out where my room is and count back by looking at the picture to RE-re-confirm what I've chosen? Most pictures of the ship are at an angle and hard to determine this.

After seeing this discussion thread, I did more research and found a true picture of a navigator's verandah...it's basically an enclosed porch with a port hole, located in the section behind KeenHo's room. (I found this picture on the Platinum Castaway Club web site -- great info -- at

http://www.angelfire.com/my/disneycruiser/nverand.htm )

This is NOT AT ALL what we were told, nor what we were expecting. I would have been furious to have arrived in that room and found a big porthole for a verandah. I was expecting something exactly like Barb & Tony's favorite room -- here's their info on the metal versus plexiglass verandahs:

http://www.angelfire.com/my/disneycruiser/metal.htm

We re-booked today to a different room, and let the CM know that we'd been given mis-information, but I plan on writing them a letter.

Unfortunately, you can't trust information that you get from customer service representatives, even if you check and re-check, which is infortunate. When you're spending these bucks, and researching diligently, you expect the information to be correct. I bet Howard and Cam, even if refunded the difference in the price of the room, still feel they lost more than the $100-$200 difference in room price when their expectations for how they were going to relax once on board wasn't met.and
 
Originally posted by Californiaamy

After asking explicitly about rooms and verandahs and what you got for the difference in price, we were told twice that the difference is the navigator's verandah has a solid metal rail, not the bars and plexiglass.

I was originally under that misconception about the Navigator's Verandah when I first started posting on this board over a year ago. It wasn't until I saw the excellent photos and descriptions on Barb's site that I had a better concept of the differences between the verandahs (see-through and steel, and Navigator's). But I think it's inexcusable that the CM you spoke to on the phone was so poorly trained.
 
I agree with Dave, that it's inexcusable that some of the reservation agents are so poorly trained. When someone is putting down a lot of money on their "vacation of a lifetime," and they ask *specific* questions, they deserve to have those questions answered correctly.

It seems that maybe the training for this is a few sessions of "this is what the ship is like." It's entirely possible that when the navigator's verandahs were described to this particular CM, they got the impression that it was just the metal vs. plexiglass. But how hard would it be for Disney to actually show the CM's pictures? *We've* seen the pictures....surely Disney could get pictures of their own ships from somewhere.....

Julie
 
I agree, Cruise. CM's <I>should</I> undergo thorough familiarization training. Have they all (or any) actually <B>been aboard</B> the ships? My first cruise was DCL's "Cruise College" cruise, which was the 3-day Wonder and included in-depth classroom seminars <I>and</I> a walking tour of the different stateroom categories. From that point on, I knew what I was talking about when speaking with DCL reservations. But did they? You would think DCL would at least give the land-based CMs an in-port tour of the ship!
 

We are currently waiting for a response from Disney, which will probably come in writing. Thank you for all the comments and tips that are being shared with everyone. We will keep you all posted. Have a great week!

Howard
 
Hi, everyone!! I sent the link to this thread (wanted DCL to read everyone's perspective) and received the following:

7/26/02

Thank you for your e-mail and for your facsimile to Joel.

I can assure you that we are familiar with the DISBoards and that your comments concerning your stateroom have been shared with the appropriate management teams.

Over the years, several changes have been implemented to our cruise vacations. We are always looking for ways to improve the Disney Cruise Line experience and have found that our guests' comments are often extremely helpful. Listening to you helps to make us better, and we appreciated hearing your views. Though it may take time for all of our guest comments to be researched and evaluated we are dedicated to refining our operation where necessary. Thank you for your input.

You may expect a reply from Joel via postal mail within the next two to three weeks.

Sincerely,

__________, Guest Communications
Disney Cruise Line

I am thrilled that DCL knows about the DIS boards and that they consider the opinions of their guests. We are eagerly awaiting a response, and we will keep all of you posted.

Cam
 
Originally posted by piglet LS
With all the reports of obstructed views we're starting to wonder if this room has any hidden surprises.

Appreciate any info....thanks!
Niola

Looking at the deck plan, this room is forward of the aft elevators and solid metal verandahs. Should be no problems with 8576.
 
I'm new and learning a lot! We are planning to book our January 2003 cruise within the next two weeks. We are going to book one category 6 (because of the verandah), one category 9 and one category 11. Where can I learn about the staterooms? I would want an un-obstructed view from my verandah and the least likely to get motion sickness. Thanks so much!

Also I'm wondering about renting tuxedos for the guys rather than packing their suits. Does anyone know what the rental fee is?
 
Originally posted by lpusell

Where can I learn about the staterooms? I would want an un-obstructed view from my verandah and the least likely to get motion sickness.
I have a list of verandah types, listed by room number, at my web site...

www.dcltribute.com/faq/outsiderooms.htm

As far as minimizing motion, you'll want to go lower. There are a limited number of Category 6 verandah cabins on Deck 5 with transparent verandah railings. You might want to look at those.

I'm wondering about renting tuxedos for the guys rather than packing their suits. Does anyone know what the rental fee is?
DCL's preferred vendor is www.cruiselineformal.com. Prices tend to run around $85. You could probably get a better deal at home, but with Cruiseline Formalwear, you don't have to haul the tux to the ship or take it off the ship. It'll be waiting in your stateroom and be picked up from your stateroom.
 
I have NEVER been on the Disney ships so I have no idea. I just went with the cabins that Dreams told me we were booked in and never looked back! I did some research and found out that we have a plexiglass verandah and the inlaws have a navigator verandah and I assume we are midship on the 8th deck room number 8550 and hoping that SOMEONE has stayed in this room and can tell me it is a great room! The inlaws are staying in 7626 in a Navigator Verandah and hopefully someone knows about that room too!
I cant find a picture of the ship that I can figure out anything from it...I have a DCL brochure but there is no real upclose picture of the ship...does anyone have one I can use to look at our 2 cabins???
Thanks!
Heidi
 
The best info on the staterooms I have is the deck plan in the brouchure. It's also online at the Disney Cruise Line website. Regarding the verandahs, all of the category 4, 5, and 6 rooms which are forward of the category 7 rooms have a clear plexiglass railing, with the exception of the the ones in question on this thread (7120, 7620, 6134, 6634). No word as yet on the two category 6's which are directly forward of the category 7's on deck 5 (5130, 5630), but looking at a photo of the ship, it doesn't look like these have much of an obstruction, if any.

Hydster, I've stayed in 7624, and like the location a lot. There are some good pictures of the Navigator's verandah at Barb's website (link). Dave's site, referenced above, has great info as well.
 
worried that I was going to be unhappy with my room 6632...
Fear not, 6632 is a wonderful location with a great verandah view! We had the same cabin on our June 29th cruise and loved it. Close to the aft elevators/stairs so you can make a quick dash to the Deck 9 drink station for early AM coffee.

I can empathize with kennercam about 6634 though. It does have a very limited view and our cruise neighbor was very disappointed with it as well.:(
 
Heidi, you're in a GREAT room, do not worry. :)

For pictures of the balcony in a navigator's verandah stateroom you can check out www.castawayclub.com .
 
Thanks for your kind words and encouragement!!! I am getting so excited and now hearing from people that the rooms are in good locations makes me that much more excited!:teeth:

Thanks to all of you again!
Heidi:earsgirl:
 
Thanks Cam for letting us all know about this room (and Dave for the pics). I would have been VERY dissapointed with this room and it's view. I have been well informed by these boards about so much but this particular thing has not come up that I have seen. Best of luck on recieving your letter, please update when it arrives. Sorry this happened after all of your planning.

I vote for Disney to disclose about these obstructions and to disclose about the metal verandahs as well.
 
Heidi--
Thank you for your support. Fortunately, many DISers have agreed with our position. Hopefully, their & your support will have a positive impact for others in the future. I agree that there is no other way at present for people to be informed of this situation. It is really hard to pay for something and to get something different (significantly less) from everyone else who paid the same price.
Have a Disney Day!
Cam
 
I booked because I got nervous after reading these posts! Thank you so much for all the good information. After reading your posts I knew exactly what I wanted. We got 6132 on the 1/18/03 Western Caribbean! Cam, I agree with you and I would have been disappointed also. Thank you for letting us know and keep us informed regarding any response from Disney.

I've learned so much from this board!
 
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