"Bad Teacher" barks up the wrong tree!!!

[luvmy3]

Do I feel badly for your son that he was embarrassed and hurt over his grade. Yes, and I definitely would have taken the opportunity to stand by my son with the teacher and explain to her that it was unacceptable. If need be I would request a conference with teacher and principal present. Teaching my child that you stand up for yourself in the correct way.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

Art1 makes good point in last sentence.

You know what 99% of school shootings have in common besides a gun, mental illness and mood altering drugs given by parents and nurses at school.

But lets not talk about that because its video games and guns that are evil.

Can I see your facts and statistics please? You just made a very broad statement.

Sonehow I doubt you can factually support your assertion that "99% of school shootings" involve "mood altering drugs given by parents and school nurses".

You don't think we should treat OCD or ADHD or bipolar disease with appropriate nedications?

 

[kellyg403]

Can I see your facts and statistics please? You just made a very broad statement.

Sonehow I doubt you can factually support your assertion that "99% of school shootings" involve "mood altering drugs given by parents and school nurses".

You don't think we should treat OCD or ADHD or bipolar disease with appropriate nedications?

Me too. Last I have seen in the last few years, it was because of not taking medications needed or in the right dosage as needed for their particular mental illness.

I don't think I would agree with that at all.

Kelly

 

[lauradis]

Can I see your facts and statistics please? You just made a very broad statement.

Sonehow I doubt you can factually support your assertion that "99% of school shootings" involve "mood altering drugs given by parents and school nurses".

You don't think we should treat OCD or ADHD or bipolar disease with appropriate nedications?

Google facts on schools shootings they have several list of where when age etc etc.

I hardly do links because someone always comes back with they don't agree because they wouldn't open there mind to begin with so no offense but if you really need to know google it.

 

[kellyg403]

Google facts on schools shootings they have several list of where when age etc etc.

I hardly do links because someone always comes back with they don't agree because they wouldn't open there mind to begin with so no offense but if you really need to know google it.

I have been. I haven't seen any statistics on CDC site or the few others that mention mood altering drugs given by parents and school nurses.

I do see drug/alcohol abuse. Which is very different. If you are talking about all of the shooters being treated with medication that may have a side effect, there millions of people who take these drugs for depression and other mental illness that does not have those side effects. Since none of the mentioned shooters were giving out details of their mental health care, it is impossible to know if 'treated' means currently or in the past. Its still too broad to say 99% are caused by parents/school nurses administering medications under the supervision of a dr. You would probably be surprised to know how many students are taking medication. Mental illness changes or declines, its unfair to parents/school nurses to say that they are singlehandly causing violence in their schools.

Kelly

 

[msjprincess]

Yes a lot of the shooters were on psychiatric drugs. Of course to me that shows that these kids had psychiatric problems that led to the shootings. Not that the drugs caused them to commit the crimes.

 

[JanaDee]

She will be able to meet someone,

just tell her to date a veteran.

So the only "real men" are veterans? Please.

 

[katelynnsmama]

I had this long post written out and changed my mind.

No, I wouldn't have thrown a tantrum and made the principal change the classroom. No, I don't believe we have the whole story, just some assumptions. OP says her 'friends' told her they saw the grades and at least 50% were bad. Bad is relative, were 50% less than an A or 50% less than a D?

Do I feel badly for your son that he was embarrassed and hurt over his grade. Yes, and I definitely would have taken the opportunity to stand by my son with the teacher and explain to her that it was unacceptable. If need be I would request a conference with teacher and principal present. Teaching my child that you stand up for yourself in the correct way.

And after raising 10 children, boys are not tougher or different. Yeah, they might have different needs in certain ways, but to say boys get a pass because they are boys is ridiculous. Boys will be boys is the dumbest thing I ever heard of. They need to learn to control themselves and work hard just like their female counterparts. I also want to throw in I am not one to take what my children tell me about parents, teachers anything as 100% accurate. Notice I didn't say lying. Kids have the sin of omission. They see the big picture and miss the details of the situation until they start to mature.

OP, I don't agree with showing all the grades to everyone. But I heartily disagree with how it was handled. As for the whole beat the teacher up because 1/2 her class is failing according to the other parents, I am not buying it. Sounds like a lot of drama and assumptions. I don't worry about others kids grades anyway. The OP basically made this sound like a craft project anyway as opposed to any learning project. And all the posts regarding confidentiality etc. I never knew that. I know at college orientation we were given the speech, "Your kids are grown, grades are theirs the bill is yours'. I trusted my college age students enough to know that they would work hard, because they trusted I would yank their butt from college and not pay anymore if they didn't remain responsible. So, its interesting to note that grades are confidential information.

Kelly

 

[lauradis]

Yes a lot of the shooters were on psychiatric drugs. Of course to me that shows that these kids had psychiatric problems that lead to the shootings. Not that the drugs caused them to commit the crimes.

I never said the drug only I said it was mental illness and drugs both.

 

[3Gsandme]

So the only "real men" are veterans? Please.

And I know a d-bag who IS a veteran and not a "real man" at all.

I really don't believe we do our children any favors by constantly intervening. That isn't life and we're raising a generation who can't handle minor road blocks. It's hard when your kids is struggling and I get that. I wouldn't allow my child to be mistreated by an educator, but life is bumpy and learning how to navigate situations that puts you in contact with a difficult person in change is an important life skill.

This is the second thread I've read this week if a parent not allowing their child any level of discomfort. I don't understand. Had the teacher in the OP removed the project from her son's desk there would have been no problem but because a grown up didn't do as a 10
Year old child asked, Mom has the child moved out of his classroom? That's weird. That's giving a LOT of power to the kids. No one had a conversation or called a meeting with the teacher? That's just off.

I'm, frankly, far more disturbed that OP left her allergic child in the classroom with a non-compliant teacher. Why didn't you expend your energy there? That was an actual real problem. I have a kid with a class 6 peanut allergy, so I know what in talking about. Did you over react out of guilt? If so, you need to start tempering that, too. You're not doing your child any favors.

 

[lauradis]

Kelly I'm not surprised by how many kids are legally doped up on mood drugs, I'm discussed by it.

Seems like right out epidemic of mental illness last 20 years in children.

 

[msjprincess]

I never said the drug only I said it was mental illness and drugs both.

But how do you know that the drugs contributed and it wasn't just because they are mentally ill?

 

[lauradis]

But how do you know that the drugs contributed and it wasn't just because they are mentally ill?

If you take out the drug aspect then we have large percentage of childhood mental illnesses.

Which is very scary idea.

More behavioral therapy would be needed, but it always seem like schools are quick to scream ADHD drugs please.

 

[aaarcher86]

If you take out the drug aspect then we have large percentage of childhood mental illnesses. Which is very scary idea. More behavioral therapy would be needed, but it always seem like schools are quick to scream ADHD drugs please.

I've never seen schools be the one to decide that. Doesn't a psychologist need to perform an evaluation regardless of what the school believes?

 

[Lorelei Lee]

Yes a lot of the shooters were on psychiatric drugs. Of course to me that shows that these kids had psychiatric problems that lead to the shootings. Not that the drugs caused them to commit the crimes.

This

 

[Lorelei Lee]

I never said the drug only I said it was mental illness and drugs both.

Still, overall, I'd rather we treat mental illness tgan ignore it.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

I've never seen schools be the one to decide that. Doesn't a psychologist need to perform an evaluation regardless of what the school believes?

Exactly.

When I was a child, in the 60's, there was no such thing as ADHD. i know two classmates who were probably ADHD, who were labelled as "slow learners" with behavioral issues, who were probably ADHD. One was bullied incessantly. The other was sent off to military boarding school when the parents could no longer deal with him. I can only imagine how their lives might have been different if Ritalin was around back then.

 

[msjprincess]

I've never seen schools be the one to decide that. Doesn't a psychologist need to perform an evaluation regardless of what the school believes?

Yes. Sometime a school will suggest that a child be tested. But they can not diagnose or dispense drugs.

 

[lauradis]

Still, overall, I'd rather we treat mental illness tgan ignore it.

Did I say ignore it, behavioral therapy works wonders. I really believe we should be required to go that direction before drugs that may or may not work, that have long term effects on the liver.

 

[MouseLover]

I teach first grade. In my opinion, if the teacher planned to display all the projects, that would be fine. But I do not think all grades should be publicly displayed.