Aulani chair policy favors chair savers

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We just returned from 8 nights at Aulani. As a committed supporter of the idea chairs should not be saved if you are not actually at the pool, I was interested to see how Aulani's new policy worked. Unfortunately, I fear Aulani wants us all to join the ranks of chair savers. :(

The staff was good about notifying us of the policy. Almost every day the staff issuing wrist bands made sure we knew the policy. The policy was that chairs would be monitored. If pool staff felt chairs were not being used then the towel on the chair is tucked in on the back of the chair. If the towel is not untucked after an hour then the items on the chair will be taken to the location where wrist bands are issued and the chair is open to use. Sounds reasonable, until you see it in action.

Here are my observations:

1. The policy does not stop folks from going to the pool or the beach early and saving chairs. On July 4th, an admittedly busy day, by 8:30 am you could not find a chair without stuff on it. However, there were very few people in the chairs at that hour and certainly not enough around the pool to fill them. It was similar everyday.

2. The staff is inconsistent about identifying chairs which are not being used. One day we watched a set of chairs sit for four hours without the towel ever being tucked into the back of the chairs by staff. These chairs were only visited once by one person for less than five minutes in the first hour that I watched them.

3. Even when towels are tucked in on the back of a chair the staff is inconsistent in removing items after an hour. I never did see anything removed although I heard it happened once. I did see many chairs with towels tucked in sit for far more than an hour with no action by the staff.

4. You can save a chair all day and not use it as long as you visit for a moment and make sure the towel gets pulled out.

My take:

As long as this policy remains in place I will abandon my principles and become a chair saver.

1. Go to the pool early, like 7:00 am, and save your chairs. Then leave

2. Come back at 8:00 when the staff goes to work and check that the towel has not been tucked in. Advanced tip: Greet the pool staff in your area so they know who you are. Then leave.

3. Send someone to check every hour that you are not at the pool to make sure the towel has not been tucked. If so, untuck the towel, if not sit for a moment then leave. Don't forget to say hi to the staff watching your area! Remember once a towel is tucked you have 1 hour to untuck it, realistically it will likely be more than an hour before it is tucked so you could stretch your visits to more than an hour depending on your risk tolerance.

4. Repeat step three as often as needed. Advanced tip #2 Take a selfie when you visit your chair to time stamp your visit to the chair.

It is with great sadness that I declare my allegiance to the dark side, but it is the only way to make sure my family has chairs at the Aulani pool.

Good luck out there on the pool deck. I will continue to hope that Disney can imangineer a solution in the near future that favors people who are actually at the pool or the beach.
 
As long as this policy remains in place I will abandon my principles and become a chair saver.

1. Go to the pool early, like 7:00 am, and save your chairs. Then leave

2. Come back at 8:00 when the staff goes to work and check that the towel has not been tucked in. Advanced tip: Greet the pool staff in your area so they know who you are. Then leave.

3. Send someone to check every hour that you are not at the pool to make sure the towel has not been tucked. If so, untuck the towel, if not sit for a moment then leave. Don't forget to say hi to the staff watching your area! Remember once a towel is tucked you have 1 hour to untuck it, realistically it will likely be more than an hour before it is tucked so you could stretch your visits to more than an hour depending on your risk tolerance.

4. Repeat step three as often as needed. Advanced tip #2 Take a selfie when you visit your chair to time stamp your visit to the chair.

It is with great sadness that I declare my allegiance to the dark side, but it is the only way to make sure my family has chairs at the Aulani pool.

Good luck out there on the pool deck. I will continue to hope that Disney can imangineer a solution in the near future that favors people who are actually at the pool or the beach.

Two wrongs don't make it right.
 
If chairs are vacant for hours, then can't they easily be taken over!?? Just throw the towel out of the way and install yourself! If people are just away for a longer time, I wouldn't suggest this, but if it is just people being obnoxious by reserving chairs for themselves hours later, then why shouldn't you have the right to take over the chair? Aulani beach towels aren't the guests' property.
 
I totally get what you are saying. It is SO frustrating. Our two visits to Aulani have involved some stress for sure when trying to locate loungers for our family. I've decided what I am going to do next time is to engage the help of a CM and THEM to remove the items if I notice chairs have been vacant for a long while.

I think what people do is save seats then head down to the beach all the while saving those seats for whenever they decide to head back up to the pool.

On both of our visits we have resorted to setting up shop at the beach and using that as our "base" since there are more loungers avail down there. The whole thing stresses out my DH, he worries greatly that someone will steal our beach bag and snorkel gear while we are up at the pools.

I just don't know the answer. I do know it is why we are moved to rent a cabana when we stay at resorts because the loungers are ALWAYS an issue. What is suppose to be totally relaxing i.e. hanging at the pool with family often turns into a stressful, frustrating, resentful experience. :(
 

Bring the stuff to lost and found - "this has been on that chair for hours - I think someone forgot it."
 
I don't believe it's really possible to do a lot about chair savings and do so in a cost effective manner. I think the industry standard is 2 hrs of non activity but even the places that try to enforce it do so poorly and inconsistently. Likely the best alternative is to aggressively charge for the beach towels if lost in any way along with at least some attempt at enforcement from the pool side. The problem from a resort side is a difficult one. It tends to creates conflict, is difficult to enforce consistently and is costly to truly enforce. Likely about the only way to truly control the situation is to charge for all locations and use the proceeds to pay people to monitor it. basically like they do on the beaches in many locations. Or to have a pool towel check in/out area and charge real dollars per towel not accounted for, $25 per seems to be the standard.
 
I think this policy is likely going to drive me slightly crazy when we go next month. I am someone who likes to have "my spot" yet will probably venture down to the beach for awhile and I don't want to be paranoid about my things while I'm gone. I will also likely want to leave for awhile to get some lunch and I don't want to have to be stressed out about how long I'm gone - but yet I won't want to pack up everything to take with me and then come back and have to search for a new "spot". I want to return to "my spot" and "my stuff". If it takes an hour to eat then it takes an hour. Don't be taking "my stuff". I don't want to stress over this chair crap. It's not like I'm not using the thing if I move around the property for a little while. It is not my intention to go down at 7 am to save a chair that I won't be using until 10:00. I just don't want to have to sit in it for 6 hours straight or whatever and not move because somebody will move my stuff if I do. I think I am going to order a pacsafe bag or something similar so I can lock my stuff to the chair. I can see it now - I am going to be true to my name and drive my DH and DS crazy over this chair crap while we're there.:sad2:
 
I think this policy is likely going to drive me slightly crazy when we go next month. I am someone who likes to have "my spot" yet will probably venture down to the beach for awhile and I don't want to be paranoid about my things while I'm gone. I will also likely want to leave for awhile to get some lunch and I don't want to have to be stressed out about how long I'm gone - but yet I won't want to pack up everything to take with me and then come back and have to search for a new "spot". I want to return to "my spot" and "my stuff". If it takes an hour to eat then it takes an hour. Don't be taking "my stuff". I don't want to stress over this chair crap. It's not like I'm not using the thing if I move around the property for a little while. It is not my intention to go down at 7 am to save a chair that I won't be using until 10:00. I just don't want to have to sit in it for 6 hours straight or whatever and not move because somebody will move my stuff if I do. I think I am going to order a pacsafe bag or something similar so I can lock my stuff to the chair. I can see it now - I am going to be true to my name and drive my DH and DS crazy over this chair crap while we're there.:sad2:

In my opinion if you are using the chair and the pool then I don't consider that chair hogging or claiming. But if you're talking about leaving to eat (and as you say, that can take up to an hour or more) then I think you need to take your stuff and forfeit that chair and you just have to try to find another when you are done. I would never think of leaving my stuff for an hour to go get something to eat.

For my family of three we usually take up two chairs with me and DH switching time in the pool with DD and grabbing food/drinks. When its time to eat we either grab a quick service type thing and eat at the pool or pack up and leave if we are going to a restaurant.
 
In my opinion if you are using the chair and the pool then I don't consider that chair hogging or claiming. But if you're talking about leaving to eat (and as you say, that can take up to an hour or more) then I think you need to take your stuff and forfeit that chair and you just have to try to find another when you are done. I would never think of leaving my stuff for an hour to go get something to eat.

For my family of three we usually take up two chairs with me and DH switching time in the pool with DD and grabbing food/drinks. When its time to eat we either grab a quick service type thing and eat at the pool or pack up and leave if we are going to a restaurant.

I'm glad packing up & moving doesn't bother you. It bothers me so that's not how we roll. I never intentionally take an hour out of my sun time to eat but you never know how long a CS line might take. If I'm going to make a lunch in the room rather than eat in the room I guess I will pack it "to go" and bring it back to the pool so I'm not gone over my alloted time. Glad now that we didn't book an OV room since it doesn't look like spending any time in it will an option if we choose to spend the day enjoying the resort.
 
In my opinion if you are using the chair and the pool then I don't consider that chair hogging or claiming. But if you're talking about leaving to eat (and as you say, that can take up to an hour or more) then I think you need to take your stuff and forfeit that chair and you just have to try to find another when you are done. I would never think of leaving my stuff for an hour to go get something to eat. For my family of three we usually take up two chairs with me and DH switching time in the pool with DD and grabbing food/drinks. When its time to eat we either grab a quick service type thing and eat at the pool or pack up and leave if we are going to a restaurant.

Exactly. Leaving your stuff on a pool chair while you go to eat for an hour or more is just rude. Pool chairs are for people actively using the pool and the pool area. There would actually be more availability if everyone would just pick up their stuff when they leave instead of taking chairs all day while they eat or go to the beach.
 
I think this policy is likely going to drive me slightly crazy when we go next month. I am someone who likes to have "my spot" yet will probably venture down to the beach for awhile and I don't want to be paranoid about my things while I'm gone. I will also likely want to leave for awhile to get some lunch and I don't want to have to be stressed out about how long I'm gone - but yet I won't want to pack up everything to take with me and then come back and have to search for a new "spot". I want to return to "my spot" and "my stuff". If it takes an hour to eat then it takes an hour. Don't be taking "my stuff". I don't want to stress over this chair crap. It's not like I'm not using the thing if I move around the property for a little while. It is not my intention to go down at 7 am to save a chair that I won't be using until 10:00. I just don't want to have to sit in it for 6 hours straight or whatever and not move because somebody will move my stuff if I do. I think I am going to order a pacsafe bag or something similar so I can lock my stuff to the chair. I can see it now - I am going to be true to my name and drive my DH and DS crazy over this chair crap while we're there.:sad2:



Holding a chair while you are using the pool/pool area is obviously fine. Holding a chair while you leave to eat, visit other areas of the resort (beach etc.) seems a tad self-centered. Chairs should be available to those using the facilities at any given time. If everyone was respectful of others, it wouldn't be such an isue and it would make it easier to grab a chair as people left during the day. It takes one person thinking the world owes them something to snowball into this. Flame away....
 
The bottom line, in my opinion, is there just are not enough loungers at Aulani. Period. Maybe after 3 or 4pm, but certainly not before. We've been there twice in July and it has been a problem for sure. Annie, I don't want to be a downer, but I do think the chair situation near the pool is going to stress you out on your trip. Whatever happened with you renting a cabana? I remember you writing about it in the past.

Although I missed Aulani greatly when we moved to Turtle Bay, what I loved, loved, loved about that pool at Turtle Bay was being able to walk up to it and have our pick of SEVERAL empty loungers. There they were, empty and waiting, just for us! That was not my experience at Aulani at all, at least not at the pool. The beach was a different story and that may work well for those that want to keep their stuff in one place for several hours.:thumbsup2

EDIT: Loungers are also a problem at VGC, but we have been successful there. Love their padded loungers.
 
Holding a chair while you are using the pool/pool area is obviously fine. Holding a chair while you leave to eat, visit other areas of the resort (beach etc.) seems a tad self-centered. Chairs should be available to those using the facilities at any given time. If everyone was respectful of others, it wouldn't be such an isue and it would make it easier to grab a chair as people left during the day. It takes one person thinking the world owes them something to snowball into this. Flame away....

The bottom line, in my opinion, is there just are not enough loungers at Aulani. Period. Maybe after 3 or 4pm, but certainly not before. We've been there twice in July and it has been a problem for sure. Annie, I don't want to be a downer, but I do think the chair situation near the pool is going to stress you out on your trip. Whatever happened with you renting a cabana? I remember you writing about it in the past.

Although I missed Aulani greatly when we moved to Turtle Bay, what I loved, loved, loved about that pool at Turtle Bay was being able to walk up to it and have our pick of SEVERAL empty loungers. There they were, empty and waiting, just for us! That was not my experience at Aulani at all, at least not at the pool. The beach was a different story and that may work well for those that want to keep their stuff in one place for several hours.:thumbsup2

EDIT: Loungers are also a problem at VGC, but we have been successful there. Love their padded loungers.

OK, that's cool. Go ahead & call me self centered if that's what flips your switch. I never said anything about the world owing me anything. Not sure where THAT came from but whatever. I still say if I have EVERY INTENTION of returning to the pool as soon as I can after stepping away for a bit then I don't feel like I should have to PACK up and MOVE. Why is grabbing a bite to eat at the Ulu Cafe for lunch any different than going to the lagoon / beach for 45 min. or an hour or running into the laundry room to move a load of laundry from the washer to the dryer and then run it back to your villa later when it's done? Would you really pack up everything and move 5 or 6 times during the course of the day if you were going back & forth from the pool to the lagoon or to the laundry room multiple times throughout the day? I really don't think my DH and DS would tolerate it very well either. I can see it now. I'm hungry Mom. OK, let's pack up all of our stuff and we'll go to the cafe and then we'll come back and hawk around and leer over other guests for new chairs after our sandwich. Yeah. That's not gonna fly so good with my guys. Would it make you feel any better if I said that we'll plan to split up and eat and swim in shifts so that we can leave 1 family member "on guard" at the chairs at all times?! If that is what makes you happy then that's what we'll do. Just to make everyone else happy. We will split up and we will guard our chairs with our lives.

Like I said in a previous post, it's not like I am planning on going down at 7:00 am to put my stuff down to hold a chair while I am going to the North Shore for surf lessons with the intention of not even getting there until 10 or 11:00. That is NOT what I'm planning to do. I do tend to MOVE arouond tho during the day.

RE: renting a cabana - ummmm, well, last year we had plans to rent one for 2 days then THIS year they raised the prices and we can't really afford it so much (had lots of residual medical bills from DS's 2 lung surgeries because of COURSE they had to fall under 2 diff. deductible years plus I then had about $3k in unexpected car repair bills since April. Minor things to keep it up & running like exploding radiators bad heater cores & stuff. So I'm really not feeling the urge to splurge too much this go around - although I DID go ahead & reserve 1 for our last day in hopes we can swing it. However when I called to reserve it they said we were already like 5th on the list. Since they are assigned first come / first served they couldn't guarantee if we can get one of the 4 in the main pool area even tho that's what I requested (the 4 people already on the list ahead of us hadn't put in a request for a specific location so they don't know what they'll want but they get first dibs). So we will have to wait until we are there to see what happens with that to see if we can get one of the main ones or not. DS is only 17 so he isn't old enough to go to the adult area ones and I'm not going to spend $300+ to sit in the little kids splash play area if that's all that's available. That's just not a practical use of what spending money we have. So the whole cabana thing at Aulani may just be a bust for us this year. I am planning to get one at the Sheraton on Maui for our last day once we get over there - they take reservations at 30 days out and they're only $75 / day (which sure beats the heck out of $300+). But our flight home that night is at like 9:30 or something like that so it will be worth it to have a "home base" for the day.

OK, NEXT? Who else wants to sling some mud at me?
 
OK, that's cool. Go ahead & call me self centered if that's what flips your switch. I never said anything about the world owing me anything. Not sure where THAT came from but whatever. I still say if I have EVERY INTENTION of returning to the pool as soon as I can after stepping away for a bit then I don't feel like I should have to PACK up and MOVE. Why is grabbing a bite to eat at the Ulu Cafe for lunch any different than going to the lagoon / beach for 45 min. or an hour or running into the laundry room to move a load of laundry from the washer to the dryer and then run it back to your villa later when it's done? Would you really pack up everything and move 5 or 6 times during the course of the day if you were going back & forth from the pool to the lagoon or to the laundry room multiple times throughout the day? I really don't think my DH and DS would tolerate it very well either. I can see it now. I'm hungry Mom. OK, let's pack up all of our stuff and we'll go to the cafe and then we'll come back and hawk around and leer over other guests for new chairs after our sandwich. Yeah. That's not gonna fly so good with my guys. Would it make you feel any better if I said that we'll plan to split up and eat and swim in shifts so that we can leave 1 family member "on guard" at the chairs at all times?! If that is what makes you happy then that's what we'll do. Just to make everyone else happy. We will split up and we will guard our chairs with our lives.

Like I said in a previous post, it's not like I am planning on going down at 7:00 am to put my stuff down to hold a chair while I am going to the North Shore for surf lessons with the intention of not even getting there until 10 or 11:00. That is NOT what I'm planning to do. I do tend to MOVE arouond tho during the day.

RE: renting a cabana - ummmm, well, last year we had plans to rent one for 2 days then THIS year they raised the prices and we can't really afford it so much (had lots of residual medical bills from DS's 2 lung surgeries because of COURSE they had to fall under 2 diff. deductible years plus I then had about $3k in unexpected car repair bills since April. Minor things to keep it up & running like exploding radiators bad heater cores & stuff. So I'm really not feeling the urge to splurge too much this go around - although I DID go ahead & reserve 1 for our last day in hopes we can swing it. However when I called to reserve it they said we were already like 5th on the list. Since they are assigned first come / first served they couldn't guarantee if we can get one of the 4 in the main pool area even tho that's what I requested (the 4 people already on the list ahead of us hadn't put in a request for a specific location so they don't know what they'll want but they get first dibs). So we will have to wait until we are there to see what happens with that to see if we can get one of the main ones or not. DS is only 17 so he isn't old enough to go to the adult area ones and I'm not going to spend $300+ to sit in the little kids splash play area if that's all that's available. That's just not a practical use of what spending money we have. So the whole cabana thing at Aulani may just be a bust for us this year. I am planning to get one at the Sheraton on Maui for our last day once we get over there - they take reservations at 30 days out and they're only $75 / day (which sure beats the heck out of $300+). But our flight home that night is at like 9:30 or something like that so it will be worth it to have a "home base" for the day.

OK, NEXT? Who else wants to sling some mud at me?

No mudslinging here!

From the bolded apart above, essentially you want to use the chairs as a "home base" and then come and go throughout the day, is that correct?

That is the essence of the debate. You say it's not the same as saving the chair early in the morning and not coming down until later. But others will see it as the same thing. Yes you could be gone for just 15-20 minutes to run to the bathroom or get a drink...but you could also be gone for up to 2 hours or more if you go eat, then check on your laundry, then head to the beach.

I don't know what the right answer is or if there is a right/wrong approach.
 
Annie, I totally hear ya on the prices AND the location of the cabana. Since our girls are tweens, I would not one by the kiddie splash area. I have a feeling that someone on the list will want that location, though, and that will leave one avail for you in an ideal location. I hope it works out.

We absolutely love Aulani and have had great times there on our two visits. I will say, though, that I did not find the whole pool and beach scene as relaxing as we've experienced at other resorts. I think it might be because we have never been able to find four loungers together and because, as a parent, you can't both watch your child go up the slide AND down the slide. I'm the type of Mom who wants to keep an eye on my child at all times. There really aren't loungers in a place where you can watch your child go up and go down, so for me to be able to sit on a lounger and watch her, it doesn't happen. I end up going up and down the slides because I want to keep an eye on her. Does anyone else feel that way about how it is set-up?

Anyway, I am happy you finally get to make the trip, and I'm happy for everyone else who is going to be at Aulani. It's truly beautiful and wonderful, just configured in a way that is not ideal for my particular family and certainly not enough loungers to accommodate all guests, at least in my opinion.

Like so many others here, not sure what the answer is that will work best for everyone.
 
I think this policy is likely going to drive me slightly crazy when we go next month. I am someone who likes to have "my spot" yet will probably venture down to the beach for awhile and I don't want to be paranoid about my things while I'm gone. I will also likely want to leave for awhile to get some lunch and I don't want to have to be stressed out about how long I'm gone - but yet I won't want to pack up everything to take with me and then come back and have to search for a new "spot". I want to return to "my spot" and "my stuff". If it takes an hour to eat then it takes an hour. Don't be taking "my stuff". I don't want to stress over this chair crap. It's not like I'm not using the thing if I move around the property for a little while. It is not my intention to go down at 7 am to save a chair that I won't be using until 10:00. I just don't want to have to sit in it for 6 hours straight or whatever and not move because somebody will move my stuff if I do. I think I am going to order a pacsafe bag or something similar so I can lock my stuff to the chair. I can see it now - I am going to be true to my name and drive my DH and DS crazy over this chair crap while we're there.:sad2:

Just got back from Aulani. I was a bit stressed by this too. We got to the chairs early(7am) and put our stuff down. Then went to get breakfast at Ama Ama. I was nervous the whole time that someone would take my stuff(beach bags and things- not just hotel towels) My husband went back to check twice for me. We spent the whole day by the pool, but every time we were in the lazy river for a long time, I was worried about our chairs. The rest of the week was the same. Always busy. We were always able to find chairs but it wasn't always easy.
Aulani pool people did their best to monitor but it seems like a monumental task.
 
I think this policy is likely going to drive me slightly crazy when we go next month. I am someone who likes to have "my spot" yet will probably venture down to the beach for awhile and I don't want to be paranoid about my things while I'm gone. I will also likely want to leave for awhile to get some lunch and I don't want to have to be stressed out about how long I'm gone - but yet I won't want to pack up everything to take with me and then come back and have to search for a new "spot". I want to return to "my spot" and "my stuff". If it takes an hour to eat then it takes an hour. Don't be taking "my stuff". I don't want to stress over this chair crap. It's not like I'm not using the thing if I move around the property for a little while. It is not my intention to go down at 7 am to save a chair that I won't be using until 10:00. I just don't want to have to sit in it for 6 hours straight or whatever and not move because somebody will move my stuff if I do. I think I am going to order a pacsafe bag or something similar so I can lock my stuff to the chair. I can see it now - I am going to be true to my name and drive my DH and DS crazy over this chair crap while we're there.:sad2:
As I stated, I think 2 hours is the usual standard. Certainly enough time to go eat or head to the beach. Expecting anything more is unreasonable.
 
I rather suspect that if people only "used" them while they were at the pool itself there wouldn't be any issue. There would just be a rotation thru out the day as groups came and went.

Having seen lots of saving over the years we consider chairs with towels only to be fair game. If we can find some that don't have towels we'll do that but if it's chair after chair saved by a towel we'll pick one and if someone comes back to it and wants to claim it we'll acknowledge and search again.

Personal items are another thing but I find it a bit odd to consider a chair to be saved by a freely issued white pool towel considering the vast majority will at least walk down in sandals or with some sort of cover up. A towel pretty much means that someone is simply trying to claim a chair for whenever they happen to be around to use it.

For lunch - we'll either take things with us or one will go look at a menu and then the second one will go look and pick up the lunch and bring it back. It would never occur to me to leave my stuff while I headed back to the room or head to a restaurant for an unspecified amount of time to eat or do whatever. First it seems discourteous to just claim a chair all day long unless I'm actually at the pool and second I'd worry about personal items being taken. We don't always get our "perfect" spot but that's just the luck of the draw at a public pool isn't it?
 
We don't even sit in the chairs...are in the pool! A place for putting our things to hold, only, would be great.
 
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