Attack of the Lakeshore Lodge

[Cfabar1]

Maybe, higher point chart will also mean lowers dues. Which, if they roll the cabins with Lakeshore, will probably be a priority. I do think it’ll come in under Poly/VGF.

It better...

 

[Kailunkat]

I agree that it will come under poly/vgf. The theme isn't screaming luxury to me and its farther from MK. I wonder if the lazy river and more elaborate pool area would make the dues higher

I think that the fact that there is a strong theme (Woodland creatures throughout Disney IP) will only add to it's appeal not detract. There are a lot of luxury hotels in the world with a nature theme - I don't think that they will do it "log cabin" style since they have already gone that route - this will be a lot more "enchanted forest glade" which could read very spa-like if they incorporate the use of light that they had in the plans for reflections.

The pool complex will definitely have an effect on dues - but the good news is that will also be offset by the number of hotel rooms. I am hoping that they also end up keeping the large food court area they had planned in the basement along with multiple restaurants upstairs to help compensate for those who will come over from WL and CFW to dine there. But it seems like this SHOULD be a higher end/deluxe resort based on other Disney offerings - but it will all depend on the individual room finishes and the amenities ultimately.

 

[Girlstar30]

I think that the fact that there is a strong theme (Woodland creatures throughout Disney IP) will only add to it's appeal not detract. There are a lot of luxury hotels in the world with a nature theme - I don't think that they will do it "log cabin" style since they have already gone that route - this will be a lot more "enchanted forest glade" which could read very spa-like if they incorporate the use of light that they had in the plans for reflections.

The pool complex will definitely have an effect on dues - but the good news is that will also be offset by the number of hotel rooms. I am hoping that they also end up keeping the large food court area they had planned in the basement along with multiple restaurants upstairs to help compensate for those who will come over from WL and CFW to dine there. But it seems like this SHOULD be a higher end/deluxe resort based on other Disney offerings - but it will all depend on the individual room finishes and the amenities ultimately.

They've done a woodland theme many times. It doesnt seem all that unique to me. Def wont do it log cabin style and more upscale than that.

It will be more upscale, but i dont think on the same upscale feel as vgf and Riv. I will be really surprised if they put a spa. The restaurant was supposed to be Princess and the Frog, which again is nothing new as far as themeing.

 

[erionm]

The cabins at Fort Wilderness have 63 declared into DVC and the rest of the 302 cabins are hotel. Do they plan to declare all of them as DVC or if not how many will be DVC?

They declare them to make points available to sell. Since sales are pretty slow, declarations will likely be few and far between.

 

[LavaMama]

the far flung deluxe properties (cash) tend to be the hardest to fill, and tend to have some of the best prices... I'm curious to see how that interacts with the DVC points chart decisions... and if more of Wilderness Lodge gets moved into DVC and/or gets downgraded to a Moderate officially or unofficially...

What is the basis for more of WL getting moved into DVC or being downgraded to a Moderate?

 

[Sandisw]

Wilderness Lodge... I could see it becoming a hybrid Moderate+ or Deluxe- or they convert more rooms to DVC... If I remember correctly, Lakeshore Lodge is occupying a site that was originally reserved for a Moderate resort...

That site was Rivier Countey which was a water park type place attached to Ft Wilderness.

So, that site was never the location of a moderate resort and I don’t think there were ever plans to make it a hotel site until Reflections.

 

[proudmomof4]

That site was Rivier Countey which was a water park type place attached to Ft Wilderness.

So, that site was never the location of a moderate resort and I don’t think there were ever plans to make it a hotel site until Reflections.

In the 1990’s there was a plan to build a western town style resort between FW and WL. It was going to be called Buffalo Junction or Fort Wilderness Junction.

The DVC side of LSL is on the site of the old River Country Water Park. The hotel side of LSL has been built on top of what was Mickey’s Backyard BBQ, as well as what was part of the Fort Wilderness petting zoo located behind Pioneer Hall and Clementine’s Beach. The parking lot and future bus depot are where the old Tri-Circle D horse barn was.

 

[Brian Noble]

a western town style resort between FW and WL.

Was the idea similar to Cheyenne at DLPR?

https://www.disneylandparis.com/en-usd/hotels/disneys-hotel-cheyenne

 

[proudmomof4]

Was the idea similar to Cheyenne at DLPR?

https://www.disneylandparis.com/en-usd/hotels/disneys-hotel-cheyenne

It looks very similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Wilderness_Junction

 

[BrianLo]

I think the points chart will be better than what people think

I think we’ll see boulder/copper creek value… but the issue is going to be view categories. Standard probably hits that benchmark but quickly resort view and firework view rooms will exceed it.

I hope it doesn’t contain the ridiculous view premiums that Poly does (which escalates views by 35/70% points respectively) and does more traditional 20/40% premiums. VDH only really escalates around 10% for its “view”.

 

[Sandisw]

In the 1990’s there was a plan to build a western town style resort between FW and WL. It was going to be called Buffalo Junction or Fort Wilderness Junction.

The DVC side of LSL is on the site of the old River Country Water Park. The hotel side of LSL has been built on top of what was Mickey’s Backyard BBQ, as well as what was part of the Fort Wilderness petting zoo located behind Pioneer Hall and Clementine’s Beach. The parking lot and future bus depot are where the old Tri-Circle D horse barn was.

Thanks! I don’t remember that at all.