Athem BC and BS, rates up 47% !!

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YIKES!! This was our front page, above the fold news this morning in the Courant. DS #3 has the Tonik plan. Thankfully he has had it prior to March 24th. I hope they mean this year! He will see his rates go up but I hope not as high as those who have bought a plan since.
http://www.courant.com/health/hc-health-premium-rates-1015-20101014,0,1031360,print.story
Courant.com

Anthem Approved For Health Rate Hikes As High As 47 Percent



By MATTHEW STURDEVANT, msturdevant@courant.com

8:36 PM EDT, October 14, 2010



The state's largest insurer has won approval to raise health premiums by as much as 47 percent for policies sold to individual buyers, the largest price hikes seen in Connecticut since the adoption of national health care reform.

Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield has received approval to raise rates on those individual market plans by at least 19 percent — including a range of 30 to 44 percent for the brand that was most popular in 2009, Century Preferred.

The new federal health reform mandates are the reason for the increases, according to Anthem and the state Department of Insurance, which is defending its approval against a challenge by Attorney General Richard Blumenthal.

Those reforms took effect Sept. 23; the rate hikes took effect by Oct. 1.

The latest round of increases — approved without change last month by the Insurance Department — will affect relatively few Connecticut families. In all, the Anthem individual plans were in use by 55,536 people in the state as of April 2009, the latest figures available, and many of those customers will have their old policies "grandfathered" in, with smaller increases in 2011. Others get group insurance sold through employers.

But the Anthem rate hikes are likely to fuel a debate over whether such increases are justified by the costs insurers will have to pay to cover new mandated benefits. The increases come just weeks before all health insurers are expected to make separate requests for higher rates for 2011, which one recent forecast says will be an average of 11 percent more for group plans.

Individual plans could come in much higher.

Anthem's rate hikes "deeply disappointed" Blumenthal, who wrote an Oct. 6 letter to Insurance Commissioner Thomas Sullivan saying the increases were approved without detailed scrutiny or consideration of whether they are "excessive" under state law. Blumenthal also attacked rates approved for Aetna, saying the company didn't provide information to justify the rate hikes and it didn't spend enough of its revenue from premiums on customers' medical expenses.

"Rates are excessive when they exceed what is justified by the facts," Blumenthal told the Courant Thursday. "The only way to determine whether something is excessive or justified by the facts is to review the facts. That has not happened in these cases."

Insurance Department spokeswoman Dawn McDaniel said the department conducts "a thorough review of all rates filed based on sound actuarial principles. Credentialed actuaries review every rate filing objectively and run an analysis based on many factors, including actual claim data, projected estimates for future utilization, and medical cost trends."

Blumenthal did not give a breakdown of plans and prices in his letter, but documents obtained by The Courant from his office show price increases for a single male, age 40, ranging from $932 to $1,438 per year for Century Preferred plans. Increases could be higher for family coverage purchased by individuals.

The rate increases approved for health insurers took effect in late September for some plans and Oct. 1 for others. Health insurers will ask regulators later this month or next month for additional increases to take effect Jan. 1.

Blumenthal is asking Sullivan to reconsider the rates. Sullivan has responded by saying the rates include "very rich benefits" required by federal law.

"The rates that were filed and approved reflect the current cost to deliver care and the impact of more comprehensive benefit designs required under the federal healthcare reform law," Sullivan said. "If the attorney general wants to complain to someone, he should be complaining to Congress."

Health insurers submitted proposed rates last summer for individual-market plans sold after Sept. 23 that will include new mandated benefits. But Aetna also sought quarterly adjustments based on rising medical costs, for group plans as well as individual plans.

Aetna asked for 24.7 percent over last year for small-group HMO plans and received an average 18 percent for all of the company's small-group plans, and 14.2 percent for large-group and middle-market plans. In the individual market, Aetna prices are 6.4 percent to 7.5 percent higher for new customers, but existing customers won't see a change.

Any debate about premiums eventually comes to a central question: How much insurers should spend in medical care for every dollar they collect in premiums — known in the industry as "medical-loss ratio." Insurers are caught between investors, who want to see a low percentage spent on medical expenses, and federal reform, which will require insurers next year to spend 80 percent of premium revenue on medical expenses in the individual market.

Anthem did not provide the ratios in its filing. When asked by the Insurance Department to provide the ratios, Anthem responded by saying it will explain how much it pays for medical expenses when it files 2011 rates.

Aetna's filing shows that it paid 53 cents on medical expenses for every dollar collected in premiums in 2009, for plans in Connecticut in the individual market. Blumenthal asks state regulators how Aetna could be approved for a rate hike when the insurer isn't spending nearly the 80 cents per dollar that will be required next year.

Aetna spokeswoman Susan Millerick said, "With regard to future minimum loss ratios, the detailed federal rules have not been issued as to what will be required. However, it is our intent to comply with those rules when finalized, as well as with applicable state laws."

It is not clear how many people are paying, or will pay, the new Anthem rates because federal reform allows insurers to "grandfather" certain plans that existed before reform was passed in March. Anthem customers who enrolled in a plan before March 24 have the option of staying in it; those plans will not include the mandated new benefits and will not see rate hikes approved recently. Anyone who bought an Anthem plan on March 24 or later will pay the new rates.

In terms of higher rates, Anthem spokeswoman Sarah Yeager attributed the rising price to robust new benefits that the plans hadn't offered before federal reform.

"Our … individual products include expanded benefits such as elimination of lifetime dollar maximums, no cost share for preventive coverage and extension of dependent coverage to age 26," she said. "With this enhanced coverage, pricing levels have also been adjusted to make sure that the cost of claims incurred is offset by the premiums collected, and that we anticipate the cost of future, expected claims. Low-cost, low-benefit plans experienced a higher rate adjustment because with the health care reform provisions the plans now offer richer benefits. Other plans that already offered rich benefits did not experience as much of an adjustment."

Anthem offers at least 17 different plans in the individual market. The company illustrated its rate changes by using an example of a single 40-year-old male — how much more he would pay for the upgraded plans which include new benefits mandated by reform. For that 40-year-old man, Anthem's Tonik plans are now 41 percent to 46.9 percent more expensive than they were in early 2010. BlueCare is 30 percent higher. Century Preferred plans are up 29.7 percent to 43.6 percent, and Lumenos is 19.5 percent to 29 percent more expensive.
 
Any debate about premiums eventually comes to a central question: How much insurers should spend in medical care for every dollar they collect in premiums — known in the industry as "medical-loss ratio." Insurers are caught between investors, who want to see a low percentage spent on medical expenses, and federal reform, which will require insurers next year to spend 80 percent of premium revenue on medical expenses in the individual market.

Anthem did not provide the ratios in its filing. When asked by the Insurance Department to provide the ratios, Anthem responded by saying it will explain how much it pays for medical expenses when it files 2011 rates.

Aetna's filing shows that it paid 53 cents on medical expenses for every dollar collected in premiums in 2009, for plans in Connecticut in the individual market.​

53 cents spent on medical expenses for every dollar collected? No wonder health insurance costs are so high!!!!!! :scared1: Now THAT is something I'd be up in arms about!!!!!
 
Any debate about premiums eventually comes to a central question: How much insurers should spend in medical care for every dollar they collect in premiums — known in the industry as "medical-loss ratio." Insurers are caught between investors, who want to see a low percentage spent on medical expenses, and federal reform, which will require insurers next year to spend 80 percent of premium revenue on medical expenses in the individual market.

Anthem did not provide the ratios in its filing. When asked by the Insurance Department to provide the ratios, Anthem responded by saying it will explain how much it pays for medical expenses when it files 2011 rates.

Aetna's filing shows that it paid 53 cents on medical expenses for every dollar collected in premiums in 2009, for plans in Connecticut in the individual market.​

53 cents spent on medical expenses for every dollar collected? No wonder health insurance costs are so high!!!!!! :scared1: Now THAT is something I'd be up in arms about!!!!!

Salaries have to be paid to those who distribute those funds and manage those plans. What is the administrative cost of Medicare? Of Medicaid? . Profits for medical insurers are their highest, at around 6.9%. Compare that to other industries. Not a great return for investors.Many private insurers provide disease management services for patients with chronic conditions and/or on-call nurses for patients to consult by phone. Because these services are provided directly by the insurance company, they do not result in a claim being paid. In addition, most states impose a "premium tax" on health insurers; this tax is obviously not a health benefit claim. However, because all non-benefit costs are defined as "administrative," these and other similar expenditures are reported as administrative costs. In recent years, these so-called "administrative costs" have accounted for 11.4--13.2 percent of total health insurance premiums.
 

A consistent return of 6.9% seems pretty good to me ...

I am glad that they had a good year. It minimizes lay offs and preserves jobs. Here is a list of the most profitable industries. You will see that health insurance is at the bottom. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2009/performers/industries/profits/

industries: Most profitable
RETURN ON REVENUES
RETURN
ON ASSETS
RETURN ON SHAREHOLDERS' EQUITY
Industry Rank Industry 2008 Profits
as % of
Revenues
1 Network and Other Communications Equipment 20.4
2 Internet Services and Retailing 19.4
3 Pharmaceuticals 19.3
4 Medical Products and Equipment 16.3
5 Railroads 12.6
6 Financial Data Services 11.7
7 Mining, Crude-Oil production 11.5
8 Securities 10.7
9 Oil and Gas Equipment, Services 10.2
10 Scientific, Photographic, and Control Equipment 9.9
11 Household and Personal Products 8.7
12 Utilities: Gas and Electric 8.7
13 Aerospace and Defense 7.6
14 Food Services 7.1
15 Industrial Machinery 6.9
16 Food Consumer Products 6.7
17 Electronics, Electrical Equipment 6.5
18 Commercial Banks 5.2
19 Telecommunications 5.1
20 Chemicals 5.0
21 Construction and Farm Machinery 5.0
22 Insurance: Life, Health (stock) 4.6
23 Information Technology Services 4.5
24 Computers, Office Equipment 4.3
25 Metals 3.9
26 Wholesalers: Diversified 3.5
27 Insurance: Property and Casualty (stock) 3.3
28 Specialty Retailers 3.2
29 General Merchandisers 3.2
30 Health Care: Pharmacy and Other Services 3.0
31 Packaging, Containers 3.0
32 Beverages 2.9
33 Engineering, Construction 2.7
34 Health Care: Medical Facilities 2.4
35 Health Care: Insurance and Managed Care 2.2
36 Petroleum Refining 2.1
37 Food and Drug Stores 1.5
38 Pipelines 1.5
39 Wholesalers: Health Care 1.3
40 Semiconductors and Other Electronic Components 1.0
41 Energy 0.9
42 Home Equipment, Furnishings 0.7
43 Food Production 0.6
44 Wholesalers: Electronics and Office Equipment -0.3
45 Diversified Financials -0.6
46 Motor Vehicles and Parts -0.7
47 Insurance: Life, Health (mutual) -3.0
48 Hotels, Casinos, Resorts -4.5
49 Automotive Retailing, Services -7.9
50 Forest and Paper Products -9.6
51 Entertainment -10.0
52 Real Estate -13.4
53 Airlines -13.5
 
I'm cornfused. You started the thread as if you were upset that they were raising prices this much, but you keep defending them. Which is it?
 
I'm cornfused. You started the thread as if you were upset that they were raising prices this much, but you keep defending them. Which is it?

What choice do they have with all of the imposed mandates? :confused3 Should they be forced to operate at a loss, put thousands of Americans and Ct. citizens out of work? Do you really think that the profit margin is excessive?
 
What choice do they have with all of the imposed mandates? :confused3 Should they be forced to operate at a loss, put thousands of Americans and Ct. citizens out of work? Do you really think that the profit margin is excessive?

I think they can find a number between operating at a loss, and the excessive salaries that might work.
And yes, I think the profit margin is execessive. Insurance companies have several areas that they're in that they make profits on - car insurance, home insurance, travel insurance, life insurance, and so on. I don't think they should be making huge profits on health care. Honestly, you don't think they can do better than paying 53 cents on the dollar for health care without "operating at a loss"
 
What choice do they have with all of the imposed mandates? :confused3 Should they be forced to operate at a loss, put thousands of Americans and Ct. citizens out of work? Do you really think that the profit margin is excessive?
Oh, I see. You wanted to start a political thread, but are no longer allowed to.
 
I think they can find a number between operating at a loss, and the excessive salaries that might work.
And yes, I think the profit margin is execessive. Insurance companies have several areas that they're in that they make profits on - car insurance, home insurance, travel insurance, life insurance, and so on. I don't think they should be making huge profits on health care. Honestly, you don't think they can do better than paying 53 cents on the dollar for health care without "operating at a loss"

Again, that 53 cents isn't profit but health programs, advice nurses, the cost of managed care. Everything that medicare doesn't have. Costs are going up because of the new mandates. DS is required to have a plan that treats heroin addiction. Why should have the cost of that mandated if he choses not to. What if he is one of the many insured who will NEVER be addicted to heroin? Why should he have a plan that mandates reproductive issues? Yet he has to pay for a plan he doesn't want or need.
 
Again, that 53 cents isn't profit but health programs, advice nurses, the cost of managed care. Everything that medicare doesn't have. Costs are going up because of the new mandates. DS is required to have a plan that treats heroin addiction. Why should have the cost of that mandated if he choses not to. What if he is one of the many insured who will NEVER be addicted to heroin? Why should he have a plan that mandates reproductive issues? Yet he has to pay for a plan he doesn't want or need.
  1. As much as you want it to be, this is not the place for political discussion.
  2. You have not shown that the new laws are responsible for any of this increase.
  3. If your husband does not require heroin addiction treatment or reproductive services, the company will not incur any costs related to these services. These savings should be reflected in the premiums. If they are not, it's not the fault of any new laws. It's just the company taking advantage of you.
 
Oh, I see. You wanted to start a political thread, but are no longer allowed to.

Is this any different than the thread on the budget board? This is not political. This is about a huge out of pocket expense that will affect most of us.
 
That's a big increase! If I'm reading it correctly, these increases on individual plans.
Doesn't your son have coverage through his employer?
 
.Many private insurers provide disease management services for patients with chronic conditions and/or on-call nurses for patients to consult by phone. Because these services are provided directly by the insurance company, they do not result in a claim being paid. QUOTE]

Do you honestly think that these services don't cost money? In many cases, the claim cost is much less than the cost of these services. Some insurance executive back in the late '80's thought it would be a great idea to get insurance companies involved in patient care instead of just paying their medical costs Many companies enroll patients in these sevices based on the fact they have had claims submitted for certain conditions. It does not mean that the claimant has any interest in the program or can even benefit from the program.

The cost of the people involved in providing these services is not cheap and for the most part has no impact on claim costs.
 
All I can say is thank goodness I am locked in on my Ins for the next 3.5 yrs! I have BCBS and part of my benefit when late DH passed away was I got to continue his plan through his employer for a one time premium. I cannot imagine having it raised that much!
 
We have BCBS through DH's employer (large group). We just received our enrollment materials for 2011,and our share for the Family PPO plan increased by 80.00 (compared to last year) per bimonthly paycheck!:scared1: They are really trying to encourage people to choose a consumer driven plan, or HRA plan, but that won't work out for our familly.

Oh, but now we don't have to pay a 30.00 copay for preventive care due to the new legislation. Somehow 30.00 x4 comes out to be a lot less than 80.00 x 26 :rolleyes:
 
We have BCBS through DH's employer (large group). We just received our enrollment materials for 2011,and our share for the Family PPO plan increased by 80.00 (compared to last year) per bimonthly paycheck!:scared1: They are really trying to encourage people to choose a consumer driven plan, or HRA plan, but that won't work out for our familly.

Oh, but now we don't have to pay a 30.00 copay for preventive care due to the new legislation. Somehow 30.00 x4 comes out to be a lot less than 80.00 x 26 :rolleyes:

We received a "warning letter" so I will be expecting the same thing although we don't know what the damage is yet.
 
I have BCBS through work and we just got our rates for next year. Up 6.5%. CoPays up slightly ($20 to $22 for PCP, $30 to $33 for Specialist, CoPay waived for preventative exams).
 

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