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I really need one of those signs.![]()
No, you don't, because sarcasm not allowed.
IRONY, on the other hand...

I really need one of those signs.![]()
I'm not counting many smiles in those pictures........ must be the FP+ Hater's Line.......
This is the sort of thing that has worried me all along. We're not newbies to Disney or to FP (legacy) or to doing the parks sensibly. We've been going to DIsney since 1982. Used very few of the original fast passes. Never needed to.
We can't remember the last time we stood in line for attractions that now have LONG fast pass plus lines. Seriously.
Our trip isn't til early May, but I read these posts with dread. And we never needed fast pass for these attractions.
Talk bout fixing (?) the system.
Are you kidding me?????
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Why did they spend a fortune on the so-called Magic Bands? To fix a system that wasn't broken? No. They did it because they believe this new system will help sell more merch in the parks. You don't even have to reach for your wallet in order to buy something; you just wave your MB.
The other benefit for Disney is that the RFID helps them keep track of us in the parks, track our preferences and market more specifically to individuals. Notice that this is all about padding the company's bottom line; it has nothing whatsoever to do with improving the guest experience.
Why did that have to result in a change to the Fast Pass system? Not sure. I guess the MBs are incompatible with the old (already lamented) Fast Pass machines. After $1.5 billion, I know they won't give up on their beloved MBs, but they need to change the crappy FP+ system fast.
Unfortunately, there is another, hidden cost to all this --besides the current chaos in the parks. That $1.5 billion (and counting) is money not going into new attractions (and plussing of old ones). A few months ago, there were reports that Disney was putting exciting new projects coughstarwarscough on hold because of cost overruns from this high tech boondoggle. I am still hoping that these were only rumors, but so far, I've seen no sign that they were. Disney hasn't announced or broken ground on anything new since Avatar. So does that mean we get nothing else new for the rest of the decade?
If so, they really are Magic Bands. They magically made lots of great new stuff disappear!
It really wasn't much work at all. For example, at EP yesterday, we had a FP+ for Mission Space, got there and saw the standby line was 5 minutes. They actually didn't even have the FP+ system on there because the line was so short, so I immediately went on my phone, switched the FP+ to Nemo and rode Mission Space standby. It was super easy and that meant we had zero wait for Nemo as well. It was great! So, my suggestion, if you choose a FP+ and find you don't need it when you get to the ride, switch it out for something else before that FP+ window closes! Took me about 15 seconds to switch them out and never wasted an FP+
Here now. Loving FP. Yes I wish there was no tiers but love everything else about them. By the way no such long FP lines that we saw today at HS....
The crazy thing is... There are no solutions. This whole problem is shortage of rides. By increasing the percentage of people using the system to 90%, they can now only further ration rides. There simply isn't enough capacity.
On top of that, they are taking their sweet time in creating more interactive standby lines.
This is quite a mess for peak season.
BUt you booked yours without tiers didn't you !?!?!?
I'd love that too... or at least, I wouldn't hate it as much.
Yep, it'd be great if you only had to tap it, but they've too much going on on the back-end (which takes time). So, way too many variables in the whole process.
It really wasn't much work at all. For example, at EP yesterday, we had a FP+ for Mission Space, got there and saw the standby line was 5 minutes. They actually didn't even have the FP+ system on there because the line was so short, so I immediately went on my phone, switched the FP+ to Nemo and rode Mission Space standby. It was super easy and that meant we had zero wait for Nemo as well. It was great! So, my suggestion, if you choose a FP+ and find you don't need it when you get to the ride, switch it out for something else before that FP+ window closes! Took me about 15 seconds to switch them out and never wasted an FP+
For proper comparison between FP+ and -, what were FP return wait times like during a busy time with FP-? I know my own experience in a slow time was that the waits were longer, but not excessively so, maybe 5-10 minutes. How much worse is a crowded day?
Why did that have to result in a change to the Fast Pass system? Not sure. I guess the MBs are incompatible with the old (already lamented) Fast Pass machines. After $1.5 billion, I know they won't give up on their beloved MBs, but they need to change the crappy FP+ system fast.
Unfortunately, there is another, hidden cost to all this --besides the current chaos in the parks. That $1.5 billion (and counting) is money not going into new attractions (and plussing of old ones). A few months ago, there were reports that Disney was putting exciting new projects coughstarwarscough on hold because of cost overruns from this high tech boondoggle. I am still hoping that these were only rumors, but so far, I've seen no sign that they were. Disney hasn't announced or broken ground on anything new since Avatar. So does that mean we get nothing else new for the rest of the decade?
What would happen if someone went with a RFID blocker, some smart kid will figure it out.