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DS was due to go from Wales to Paris tomorrow for a school trip, including a day at DLP. That trip was cancelled this morning.
That's probably a good idea, if for no other reason than you don't want to be stuck in another country if some sudden quarantine happens.

I am very surprised at how Germany has had so many cases in the past few days. Wow.
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I'm not sure why this posted twice, sorry!
 
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Another cruise ship (this is the Grand Princess, not the Diamond Princess) with coronavirus, this time sailing from San Francisco to Mexico and back. There is another case from this ship, also, in Placer County, CA:

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/10779399-181/sonoma-county-coronavirus-patient-was
Edit: Here is the other case from the Grand Princess. Hopefully, they'll soon test everyone who was on that ship.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...e-declares-local-health-emergency/ar-BB10Isip
 
That's probably a good idea, if for no other reason than you don't want to be stuck in another country if some sudden quarantine happens.

I am very surprised at how Germany has had so many cases in the past few days. Wow.
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Yes, it is probably safest. The school is planning to rearrange in a few months if things looks better (historically, flu based pandemics do tend to blow themselves out after a while, we'll see) and those people on this trip will have first refusal on places. Of course the insurance does not cover this cancellation so the school is looking at refunding from school funds, but we'll see what happens.
 

It was mentioned at a press conference on Monday - I'll have to find the video (which is getting harder since stuff comes so fast and furiously every day now)...for now, the rule is being handled in reverse (what used to require prior approval will now get after-the-fact approval and oversight)...
The closest I was able to find in that time period with CDC change is this
https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-testWhich is CDC's 1st version of test included covid-19 and wide range of coronavirus. That wide range of coronavirus wasn't working. Starting last Friday, CDC isn't going to include the wide range of coronavirus testing. Still, there isn't enough test kit to go around, definitely not 1 million tests by weeks end as pence said.
 
I don't mean to pick on you but I see this everywhere. "Mild" in this context doesn't mean "not bad at all". It means that you'll get a "bad flu" *, but will likely be able to recover on your own without medical intervention. It's not a cold. While it's definitely variable between people, you could be down and out at home for a couple of weeks.

In Italy, half the people who get it are in the hospital. I hope that's because they might be missing a few mild cases, but they say they are trying to test everyone who could possibly have it.

*The chief public health officer for Seattle & King County, Dr. Jeff Duchin, used this phrase to describe what most people will experience.

That 80% number doesn't even seem correct when you look at Italy.

Of the 3000 cases now in Italy, 50% have been hospitalised.
 
That 80% number doesn't even seem correct when you look at Italy.

Of the 3000 cases now in Italy, 50% have been hospitalised.
Right. I've been watching that. I'm hoping they're missing some mild cases but I don't know that they are, because they do contact tracing. And the CFR over the past couple of days is sobering as well.
 
To me, (and I’m an RN) “mild” does NOT mean hospitalization!
No kidding! But that big study these numbers come from define "mild" as URI symptoms or mild pneumonia. Most clinicians in the US would not treat mild viral pneumonia at home, although maybe we are going to have to learn how to do just that.

So here's the advice for Seattlites right now:

King County in Washington state urges people 60 and older, people with underlying health issues, and pregnant people to stay home and away from large groups (10+) due to coronavirus

Interestingly, they don't recommend closing schools for three reasons: 1). SARS-CoV2 doesn't seem to affect children very much. 2). If kids aren't at school they may be out and about and more exposed to the virus, and 3). It is hard on working parents. Very thoughtful guidelines, I think.
 
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No kidding! But that big study these numbers come from define "mild" as URI symptoms or mild pneumonia. Most clinicians in the US would not treat mild viral pneumonia at home, although maybe we are going to have to learn how to do just that.

So here's the advice for Seattlites right now:

King County in Washington state urges people 60 and older, people with underlying health issues, and pregnant people to stay home and away from large groups (10+) due to coronavirus

Interestingly, they don't recommend closing schools for three reasons: 1). It doesn't seem to affect children very much. 2). If kids aren't at school they may be out and about and more exposed to the virus, and 3). It is hard on working parents. Very thoughtful guidelines, I think.

They probably want to wait to close schools as a last resort. If it turns out kids pass it to teachers who pass it to other kids who pass it to families, etc, then they'll get shut down. They also probably are trying to keep to "least restrictive" measures 1st, and then move more restrictive if the needs arise (rather than the China route of full, immediate shutdown of everything)...
 
They probably want to wait to close schools as a last resort. If it turns out kids pass it to teachers who pass it to other kids who pass it to families, etc, then they'll get shut down. They also probably are trying to keep to "least restrictive" measures 1st, and then move more restrictive if the needs arise (rather than the China route of full, immediate shutdown of everything)...
Yes, they did say if there were infections at schools, the schools would be closed. Because, as you say, kids are efficient little viral vectors. As parents already know. :)

Interesting thing about China, too. They think there might have been a more virulent strain circulating in Wuhan, which has become less common. So we may not ever need to go the China route. Let's hope!
 
Yes, they did say if there were infections at schools, the schools would be closed. Because, as you say, kids are efficient little viral vectors. As parents already know. :)

Interesting thing about China, too. They think there might have been a more virulent strain circulating in Wuhan, which has become less common. So we may not ever need to go the China route. Let's hope!

Might all depend on which strain is making the rounds here. Did we get the L-strain or the S-strain? Or do we already have both? We don't know yet, or at least they aren't telling the public. And based on what I've seen from the CDC so far, I don't have confidence that they will be rushing to figure that out.
 
Just a update on Lombardy. In Italy atm there are 2706 cases of these 1820 are in Lombardy of these 1820 cases 877 are in hospital, 209 in ICU, 411 in quarantine at home, 73 dead and 250 cured.
The big issue they are having now it's not much finding icu space, as they are activating military hospitals, but it's finding the medical staff needed. 12%of the infected are medical personnel!
I think in the US you have plenty of doctors so you are lucky, but countries like Australia would struggle big time if this bacame huge there.
Anyway yes Italy closed all the schools because they found, in a study I think, that children were asymptomatic vectors who would obviously pass it on to parents and grandparents, grandparents that in Italy are very very present within the family and in the care of the grandchildren.

Sorry last thing, they said that they will create a babysitter bonus of sort to help the parents with the kids at home from school
 
Yes, they did say if there were infections at schools, the schools would be closed. Because, as you say, kids are efficient little viral vectors. As parents already know. :)

Interesting thing about China, too. They think there might have been a more virulent strain circulating in Wuhan, which has become less common. So we may not ever need to go the China route. Let's hope!
I was reading an article about that last night. They think the heavy restrictions China put in really slowed the spread of that. That was reassuring. Less reassuring was that means this virus has already mutated once in humans and that thinking about what happens when China eases the restrictions if the virulent virus is still circulating among quarantined people that might not be showing symptoms that would attract the attention of medical professionals.
 
I was reading an article about that last night. They think the heavy restrictions China put in really slowed the spread of that. That was reassuring. Less reassuring was that means this virus has already mutated once in humans and that thinking about what happens when China eases the restrictions if the virulent virus is still circulating among quarantined people that might not be showing symptoms that would attract the attention of medical professionals.
Well, it's kind of sad to think about but more virulent viruses tend to peter out quickly because they debilitate their hosts, so they can't go about spreading it. That might have been a factor in Wuhan, as well as the lockdown and quarantine that you mention. The stories out of there early on were awful, so bad I won't repeat what I heard & saw, before the CCP clamped down on citizen journalists. I don't think most of us can imagine what it is like there, and the good thing is, we won't have to experience it, either.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/health/coronavirus-test-demand.html
If you have anything you need to have checked out, maybe call now and get an appointment! I predict a run on the doctor's offices. I scheduled a slightly-overdue lab test today.

And, if there is a coronavirus outbreak in your town, not only will you not want to go out (and especially not to any medical facilities!!), they might be diverted to taking care of mostly COVID19 patients.
 
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I’m sorry, I tried to find this regulation that was lifted on Sunday. What is it?

there wasn't. Someone in the whitehouse got their wires crossed. The FDA was looking into changing regulations on lab testing, but never went forward with presenting new policy.
 












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