Asia Disney Parks closed due to Coronavirus (SHDL, HKDL, TDL)

[mster425]

Uh, just make up another reason. Say your work revoked your time off request. Easy peasy.

I would never do something like that and then admit it on the internet I just wanted to weigh in to point out that American travel insurance is garbage and wouldn’t have helped most people anyway

 

[DLgal]

I would never do something like that and then admit it on the internet I just wanted to weigh in to point out that American travel insurance is garbage and wouldn’t have helped most people anyway

I haven't done it. I've never bought cancel for any reason coverage. I just go with the included, free travel insurance that my Chase Sapphire Reserve offers.

I was just saying, if you DO have CFAR coverage, just cancel for a DIFFERENT reason than fear of covid-19. Give literally ANY other reason.

 

[mster425]

I haven't done it. I've never bought cancel for any reason coverage. I just go with the included, free travel insurance that my Chase Sapphire Reserve offers.

I was just saying, if you DO have CFAR coverage, just cancel for a DIFFERENT reason than fear of covid-19. Give literally ANY other reason.

That's the plan. The joke was that I wasn't admitting it.

But holy crap let me check my own chase sapphire

 

[QueenElinor]

I don't know all the details about the virus but it is clear the WHO and CDC are concerned and they are the experts. If this was nothing to worry about they would be out there saying that and they are not. That tells me way more the comparing this virus to the flu or to H1N1. Those are the people who have all the data and the experts and likely have lots of models on this thing. They are not out there saying don't worry about anything. Instead WHO has declared this a "public health emergency of international concern".

My first clue was China putting 10% of the world's population- 750,000,000 people!! in a lockdown. Not something they would do over just 2000 deaths. The dozens of massive quarantine camps, etc. I think the magnitude of all that is just hard for us to grasp. Their economy has imploded- it's the worst it's been in modern times. I'm not sure we'll ever know the true toll on the Chinese people. But it's not a couple of thousand deaths, that's for sure.

 

[Itsnotmykitchen]

I don't know all the details about the virus but it is clear the WHO and CDC are concerned and they are the experts. If this was nothing to worry about they would be out there saying that and they are not. That tells me way more the comparing this virus to the flu or to H1N1. Those are the people who have all the data and the experts and likely have lots of models on this thing. They are not out there saying don't worry about anything. Instead WHO has declared this a "public health emergency of international concern".

To be fair to the posters comparing it to H1N1, that too was declared a public health emergency of international concern.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...blic-health-emergency-us-swine-flu-cases-rise

 

[Krandor]

My first clue was China putting 10% of the world's population- 750,000,000 people!! in a lockdown. Not something they would do over just 2000 deaths. The dozens of massive quarantine camps, etc. I think the magnitude of all that is just hard for us to grasp. Their economy has imploded- it's the worst it's been in modern times. I'm not sure we'll ever know the true toll on the Chinese people. But it's not a couple of thousand deaths, that's for sure.

Yeah already the impact of this is massive. I'm in the IT industry and getting shipments of products from china is a big problem right now and getting worse. Also some companies like cisco are reporting that usage of things like webex usage to/from china increasing 22 times normal levels.

 

[QueenElinor]

Also some companies like cisco are reporting that usage of things like webex usage to/from china increasing 22 times normal levels.

Well, definitely people aren't going to want to actually go there for a long, long time..... like after there's a vaccine.

 

[Firebird060]

At least there is one good thing about China being locked down due to the Virus. There air quality has been improved dramatically according to NASA

 

[Dreams&wishes]

Have you guys heard of the cruise ship in Norway with suspected Germans with the virus?

 

[QueenElinor]

Have you guys heard of the cruise ship in Norway with suspected Germans with the virus?

Here's a little more, it's the Aida Aura. Looks like two passengers had been in contact with a known case: https://www.wavy.com/news/world/cruise-ship-in-norway-awaits-virus-test-on-2-passengers/

Hopefully they'll test negative and that'll be it. Good contact tracing on the part of the German gov't.

What surprised me more was finding out (in a different article) that Germany has over 100 cases all by themselves, and they think it's spreading. In a country that size, they seem calm. We have that many in a country our size and it's panic-city.

 

[Iowamomof4]

And that is why I would not be boarding a Cruise ship right now. Way too easy for them to hold the passengers hostage, er I mean in quarantine.

 

[TwoMisfits]

Biggest problem of this virus is that apparently, even recovery takes forever...

Like this news from Sweden from today 3/3...

1st case in Sweden has recovered: a 20 year-old woman who had tested positive to the virus on Jan. 31 after returning home from Wuhan in China on Jan. 24. [source]

Total time from positive test (which took 7+ days from exposure onset, if you assume China was the exposure point) to recovery was 32 days. And from exposure to recovery was probably 40+ days. That's an acre of time...and you have to assume the 20 year old falls in the "healthy, no pre-existing" set...

 

[brent02139]

Biggest problem of this virus is that apparently, even recovery takes forever...

Like this news from Sweden from today 3/3...

1st case in Sweden has recovered: a 20 year-old woman who had tested positive to the virus on Jan. 31 after returning home from Wuhan in China on Jan. 24. [source]

Total time from positive test (which took 7+ days from exposure onset, if you assume China was the exposure point) to recovery was 32 days. And from exposure to recovery was probably 40+ days. That's an acre of time...and you have to assume the 20 year old falls in the "healthy, no pre-existing" set...

I thought "recovered" means they tested negative for the virus, like it's no longer in the system. Not like "you feel good, yeah? well you're recovered, go out to the world"

So to clear out, it could take time. Ebola for example, researchers found the virus in parts of the body months after the patients have left the hospital.

 

[TwoMisfits]

I thought "recovered" means they tested negative for the virus, like it's no longer in the system. Not like "you feel good, yeah? well you're recovered, go out to the world"

So to clear out, it could take time. Ebola for example, researchers found the virus in parts of the body months after the patients have left the hospital.

Right, but if you still have the virus, you can't just go about your day, even if you're starting to feel better. That makes work difficult and required home stays lengthy...that's bad for a number of macro reasons...

 

[QueenElinor]

Right, but if you still have the virus, you can't just go about your day, even if you're starting to feel better. That makes work difficult and required home stays lengthy...that's bad for a number of macro reasons...

Well, having it and still shedding it & putting others at risk are two different things, and we really don't know the answer to that question. With our ability to find micro quantities of virus now, we might be finding amounts that are not relevant to transmission risk, both during incubation AND recovery.

But it still does seem to take a long time to get over this, even just going by clinical symptoms. Really sick patients can be in the hospital for weeks, even a month. That will cripple health care systems if there are many of those.

 

[DrunkJam]

I am also wondering how wise all the political rallies in USA are right now? Lots of mass gatherings in confined spaces? Is it a risk factor?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

I am also wondering how wise all the political rallies in USA are right now? Lots of mass gatherings in confined spaces? Is it a risk factor?

It definitely is. And there's nobody currently running for president on either side left who's under the age of 70, which is a huge risk factor for bad outcomes.

 

[rteetz]

Just a reminder we cannot discuss politics here.

 

[ISUamanda]

I am also wondering how wise all the political rallies in USA are right now? Lots of mass gatherings in confined spaces? Is it a risk factor?

Has anyone else read Feed by Mira Grant/Seanan McGuire? It's so relevant now!

 

[Dreams&wishes]

Stumbled into this, if this is true this is terrible I really hope they become more proactive. I was also thinking that to have 9 deaths statistically they should have a lot more cases