Ashley Madison an auspicous day

[okeydokey]

I actually hope that someone is keeping an eye on Josh Duggar, as I think he might well be at risk for suicide. He has lost his job, caused the rest of his family to lose their job, and now had this new issue come out so he may well lose his wife and children. Even if Anna stays, I can't imagine things are going to be real happy at home.

You are right. As terrible as the whole situation is, his wife doesn't need another tragedy.

 

[aprilgail]

She'll have no choice but to put up with whatever BS he sends her way unless she wants to be portrayed as an unforgiving and unsuportive wife that just gave up and got divorced. Molesting his sisters? Be a good wife, listen to your husband, be supportive and put on a smile and carry on. He cheats on you and you are privately and publically humiliated by this? Be a good wife, listen to your husband, be supportive and put on a smile and carry on.

That is so sad- I lost all respect for Hillary Clinton when Bill cheated on him and she stood there like a doormat and supported him. He is a lost cause, his wife should cut her losses and pitch his butt to the curb and call it a day!

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Well since he was one of the cheaters found using the site, I believe it's totally relevant to the thread.

Did I saw it wasn't relevant? I said I didn't care about Duggars, that's all.

 

[Planogirl]

That is so sad- I lost all respect for Hillary Clinton when Bill cheated on him and she stood there like a doormat and supported him. He is a lost cause, his wife should cut her losses and pitch his butt to the curb and call it a day!

It's funny how differently people can see things. I actually respected that Hillary forgave Bill and apparently worked it out. I don't know if I could do that.

 

[rigs32]

That is so sad- I lost all respect for Hillary Clinton when Bill cheated on him and she stood there like a doormat and supported him. He is a lost cause, his wife should cut her losses and pitch his butt to the curb and call it a day!

After reading the description of their engagement in her auto biography, I feel like she knew exactly what she was signing up for. Every relationship has it's own rules. I wouldn't judge another person's relationship unless I was in it - it's not my place.

As for the comments about atheists..... if someone posted on here that they felt sorry for Christians, people would be up in arms. I don't think comments like that have a place on these boards where we aren't supposed to be discussing religion anyway.

 

[dinolounger]

So, without reading the whole thread have any people we know (other than Josh Duggar) been outed on this website?

Now the floodgates of "outing the cheaters" are starting to open as a range of sources -- individuals, media, the scandal obsessed etc. -- collectively pore through the 37 million released records (this whole saga may end up going down as one of the more lurid examples of the outcomes of crowdsourcing). The AP report below doesn't name specific people, but is an example of how the culling is getting both deeper and more targeted very quickly. I think this weekend is going to be when the situation really explodes, as more and more noteworthy names start showing up in the news.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150820/us--cheating_website-229e9627bf.html

The UK press is all over this and a report in The Daily Mail included the following snippet on what they have found in the lists so far:

"Among the email addresses are ones from the British and US governments and armed forces, major companies including IBM and BAE Systems as well as institutions such as the Catholic church and universities including Harvard and Yale.

There are around 15,000 .mil addresses - the official US Military address - or .gov addresses, which is used by the US government."

That article also shows an actual but masked AM profile to illustrate all the information (in addition to email address) on each person that has been leaked. That includes:

• Their AM nickname
• Their first name
• Their last name
• Their full home address (street, city, state)
• Their home, mobile and work phone
• Gender
• DOB
• Their profile caption
• Their list of "preferences"

 

[OhMari]

I cannot believe how fast Josh Dugger responded. Maybe he thought rip the bandaid off fast and he will be left alone then, especially if more names are going to be recognized by the weekend.

 

[BillBrasky]

A good friend of mine (college roommate, groomsmen for eachother, one of my best friends for over 10 years) was the one email I found in the database! And I totally searched everyone... hard. Can't decide if I'm more surprised that he was on there... or that nobody else was. Was kind of hoping to find that one of my single friends had signed up to scam on married women? Anyway,he and his wife are vacationing right now and I keep getting their snapchats and I keep thinking if she's going to google this. They began dating in college, and then post-college, when we would drink constantly and she was out of the city, he was a serial cheater. Seemingly everyone but her knew. In more recent years though, leading up to their wedding last year, I felt that he was beyond that. I also wouldn't put it past one of our friends to have signed his email address up just to mess with him. By the by, he's an unemployed waiter and she's a doctor... living the dream. So... interesting situation.

 

[BillBrasky]

FYI, that site was exposed for basically being a total scam. The "female" profiles were all fake and 95% of real members are males. So, basically a bunch of douchebags signed up hoping to find a woman to have an affair with, but they likely never actually were able to follow through.

Sounds a lot like tinder! Or zoosk. Or match.com. Or eharmony. Or the bar. Or the grocery store. Or your mom's coworker's daughter who is such a sweet girl with a pretty face! Or the girl on facebook who looks like a Victoria's Secret model. Or the girl your parents arranged for you to marry when you were 3. They're all dudes. Everyone's a dude.





Dudes.

 

[dinolounger]

You can check if an email address is included in that data here: https://ashleymadisonleakeddata.com

That site has now been shut down because the owners of AM sent the guy who put it up a takedown notice. Here's a substitute they either haven't gotten to yet or which has legal protection already in place that AM can't get around:

http://www.trustify.info/check

 

[TLSnell1981]

It's funny how differently people can see things. I actually respected that Hillary forgave Bill and apparently worked it out. I don't know if I could do that.

Hillary didn't care about the infidelity..only the embarrassment, that it caused. Rumor has it, they don't have a real marriage. Hillary "worked it out" for power and money.

 

[bsblady01]

josh dugger is in hot water now. if I was anna I would get a lawyer and get out of the marriage quick. I would not want to raise four kids with him

 

[Planogirl]

Hillary didn't care about the infidelity..only the embarrassment, that it caused. Rumor has it, they don't have a real marriage. Hillary "worked it out" for power and money.

In my view, people do whatever is best for themselves and their families. Whatever arrangement Hillary and Bill have, as long as it works for both of them who am I to judge?

Just how I see them.

 

[Christine]

After reading the description of their engagement in her auto biography, I feel like she knew exactly what she was signing up for. Every relationship has it's own rules. I wouldn't judge another person's relationship unless I was in it - it's not my place.

As for the comments about atheists..... if someone posted on here that they felt sorry for Christians, people would be up in arms. I don't think comments like that have a place on these boards where we aren't supposed to be discussing religion anyway.

Thank you. The smugness involved with comments like that are ridiculous and insulting. You are absolutely correct in that if those remarks were made toward any religious person, they would be screaming "religious hate" against them. This whole intolerance attitude of some people who claim to be tolerant is really disgusting.

 

[Art 1]

Thank you. The smugness involved with comments like that are ridiculous and insulting. You are absolutely correct in that if those remarks were made toward any religious person, they would be screaming "religious hate" against them. This whole intolerance attitude of some people who claim to be tolerant is really disgusting.

I couldn't agree with your last sentence even more.

 

[cabanafrau]

In my view, people do whatever is best for themselves and their families. Whatever arrangement Hillary and Bill have, as long as it works for both of them who am I to judge?

Just how I see them.

Agree. Truthfully I felt the situation with Bill and Hillary was similar to what we now see portrayed on House of Cards with the Underwoods. However they decide to work it out between them is between them.

 

[cabanafrau]

Yes, and jails are full of people who were victims of their childhood. Rapists, murderers, child molesters, thieves, wife abusers, child abusers/molesters, etc. I feel sorry for them on some level but you know, when you are an adult it's all on you.

Bit of a different thing when it's your entire life and upbringing, your entire support system, your entire belief system, your family ties. Those who venture out of an insular religious community are mentally and emotionally opening a door and expecting they will be stepping out into midair with nothing but jagged rocks and hungry lions below. That's a difficult enough challenge for anyone. Put that on the shoulders of a young woman with several small children, no education and no knowledge of any other way of life except to follow the lead of a patriarch and I don't see the justification for anyone to look at her with the smugness required to say, you're an adult, it's all on you now -- especially in the throes of what has to be significant emotional trauma while fairly recently post partum. I can scrabble up the compassion to wish her well and time to reach her decisions.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

Bit of a different thing when it's your entire life and upbringing, your entire support system, your entire belief system, your family ties. Those who venture out of an insular religious community are mentally and emotionally opening a door and expecting they will be stepping out into midair with nothing but jagged rocks and hungry lions below. That's a difficult enough challenge for anyone. Put that on the shoulders of a young woman with several small children, no education and no knowledge of any other way of life except to follow the lead of a patriarch and I don't see the justification for anyone to look at her with the smugness required to say, you're an adult, it's all on you now -- especially in the throes of what has to be significant emotional trauma while fairly recently post partum. I can scrabble up the compassion to wish her well and time to reach her decisions.

I hope you have the exact same compassion for Josh Duggar who was raised the same way. It's not smugness. They are the smug ones looking down their noses and loudly condemning everyone who doesn't pretend to follow the same rules they pretend to follow.

Millions upon millions of men cheat. They cheat online, they cheat under the cover of darkness, in massage parlours, with their co-workers, etc. I don't care about anybody else's husband and frankly I don't think they should be outted over the internet to the general public. The Duggars, on the other hand, are constantly put themselves out there eschewing family values and preaching intolerance.

Tons of people were raised in an intolerant families and cultures and managed to turn their backs on that type of thinking.

 

[cabanafrau]

I hope you have the exact same compassion for Josh Duggar who was raised the same way. It's not smugness. They are the smug ones looking down their noses and loudly condemning everyone who doesn't pretend to follow the same rules they pretend to follow.

Millions upon millions of men cheat. They cheat online, they cheat under the cover of darkness, in massage parlours, with their co-workers, etc. I don't care about anybody else's husband and frankly I don't think they should be outted over the internet to the general public. The Duggars, on the other hand, are constantly put themselves out there eschewing family values and preaching intolerance.

Tons of people were raised in an intolerant families and cultures and managed to turn their backs on that type of thinking.

I actually do have some compassion for Josh -- and an annoyance for their temerity to harshly judge others. As I previously said, the notion of Ashley Madison as a business model is repulsive and bottom feeding. I also think the hacking, whether real or a hoax by those behind Ashley Madison to boost profits out of a declining venture isn't the way to "teach cheating partners a lesson", and I sure as heck don't think innocent bystanders deserve to have their lives upended this way.

One bit of good that I would like to see come out of this is opening some intolerant eyes to the human frailties and foibles in their own bubble and come to an understanding that involves tolerance and forgiveness.

 

[DanceswithDisney]

Just because an email is found in the database, it does not mean they are cheating or have an STD! I have several friends both male and female who signed up specifically because they wanted to see if their SO's were on AM. They never did anything other than search for their SO and now their email and other private info has been released by this terrorist organization.