Article : Is Animal Kindom a Failure?

I personally love it, hats off to the person who originally came up with the concept :)



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I personally love it, hats off to the person who originally came up with the concept
I agree. My favorite park and is only going to get better.
 
I thought it was a very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

While I admit most of it is true, I still love AK. I think it has some fine-tuning to do in order to appeal to the masses, but there are those of us who find it a beautiful place to spend the day (or at least half a day;) ).

But if it were me - I would get rid of Chester & Hester and their whole cheesy Dinorama debacle. I agree - add some dark rides to appeal to families - and YES - bring back TOAD!!!!!:Pinkbounc
 

Yes, an interesting article. And while I personally love AK, I have to admit most of his points are true, and I like his suggestions for improvement.

I also have to agree -- I love AK, but I wouldn't go there on a hot or rainy day. But when the weather's right for it, we typically spend at least 4 hours, and frequently the full day there.
 
Originally posted by grinningghost
I thought it was a very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

While I admit most of it is true, I still love AK. I think it has some fine-tuning to do in order to appeal to the masses, but there are those of us who find it a beautiful place to spend the day (or at least half a day;) ).

But if it were me - I would get rid of Chester & Hester and their whole cheesy Dinorama debacle. I agree - add some dark rides to appeal to families - and YES - bring back TOAD!!!!!:Pinkbounc

I totally agree.

the article had some very interesting, and very true, points...(nahtaday.. hahahah) however I think DAK is a bit of a "roamers" park and not a 'commando' park. It's a day to lesiurely stroll around, watch animals, etc... I do agree with many of the points that the author made - but I think that's WHY I like DAK. I don't have to sit on a bench for an hour while DH rides rollercoasters (I don't like them) for one! hehe.

Dinorama has to go - I think Walk is spinning in his grave over that one...so beyond tacky.
 
Then what WOULD be a failure?

Look, I LIKE AK. I wouldn't miss it on a trip to WDW. But I can also see that it is not what it could have been, or should have been. Besides the problems with what is there, it lacks the depth it should have had.

Some people tried to do some really wonderful things, but were hamstrung by the company's overall goal with the park, which was Marketing related.

Rather than set out to build something on the same level as DL or MK, Disney has taken to using those parks as anchors, and building supplemental parks to fulfill marketing goals like adding a day to your stay.

The result is something that is good enough to be the #5 theme park in North America because its in WDW, but would struggle to survive if it were a standalone park somewhere else.

Its not that it should have been perfect. Its that it was made to be less because of shortsighted company vision.

That's a failure.

What's worse is that they only compounded their mistakes with DCA.


All that said, I don't agree with the extent of the writier's criticism, even though most of his points carry some truth.
 
I thought the suggestions for improvement were excellent. I like DAK as it is, there are some changes I would make (like getting rid of most of Dinoland) but still like the place just the same. Every park at WDW has features I am not overly enamored with, even Disney cannot please all of the people all of the time.
 
I totally disagree with the idea that AK wouldn't do well as a stand-alone park somewhere other than WDW. I would bet my bottom dollar that if they were to transport AK to Buffalo to replace the Buffalo Zoo - it would be successful beyond anyone's comprehension.

I think the reason it doesn't do as well as the other WDW parks is because it's right next to 3 other great parks (and throw in Universal and Sea World also). You naturally compare it to the other Disney parks, you can't help but do that.

If someone would please dig AK out of it's spot and truck it up here to replace our tired old zoo - I promise - I'll be an AP holder.:D
 
I just wonder what the attendance would be if it weren't sitting right there with the no. 2, no. 3 and no. 4 parks. :)

I like Animal Kingdom and we usually spend half a day there. I wouldn't go out of my way to visit it but I feel like it has great potential.
 
Well, #5 AK does ok with #6 and #7 just a few miles north of it. What would #6 & 7's numbers be without 2,3,4 & 5 ? Would that make USF/IOA failures ?

The way I see it, AK is the only park with real potential for growth. I doubt we'll see a 5th gate anytime soon so it only makes sense for WDW to invest in AK. Obviously EE will be a shot in the arm to attendance which may lead to investment in a dark ride. IMO the biggest mistake in AK - even bigger then the dreaded Dinorama - is Kali Rapids. What should have been a great E-ride is nothing more then a disappointing D-ride. They need to go and visit the Barges over at IOA. Now that's a raft ride.
 
Yep Viking. I agree with you on Kali. What the heck were they thinking? This ride has SERIOUS potential to be among the best in WDW, and they missed the boat (no pun intended).

The ride is way too short. In fact, I'd like to see an aerial shot of the entire ride. I bet it looks a little like a Matchbox race track from the air.;)
 
I agree with you Vike about Kali as well. Sadly, I doubt that there is any improving that is possible either.

Otherwise I agree with Show. It doesn't matter why AK is number 5...It just is. Vike's point about #'s 6 & 7's proximity to WDW is also valid. We keep getting told how great they are yet their attendance still can't overtake AK...Further, would there even have been a USF without WDW??? USF is a great addition to Orlando and doesn't need to be compared to WDW.

...but would struggle to survive if it were a stand alone park somewhere else...
Like Vike, I simply disagree with that assessment. The only reason it struggles at all is that it has to compete with the other established and more conventional Disney Parks. Besides who ever said that the goal of each Park was to be able to "stand alone"? Certainly MK was built this way because Walt had died and the future was muddled but in viewing WDW today it is just wrong, in my mind, to view each park independently. Everyone will have different favorities and dislikes and even USF is thrown into the mix, which is OK, as well. But WDW is the sum of its parts and each individual component just isn't that important and isn't intended to stand on its own. Disney looks to utilize the whole picture of what WDW is, they have no need to have one park simply cannibilize from another, this is why we'll probably NEVER see another gate at WDW and particularily a state of the art one like Disney Sea. The die is cast in Orlando and the future will revolve around the current focus, for better or for worse.

Lastly, Dinorama...Even I admit this was a big mistake...But it's now there and holding its own. My hope is that Disney adapts it further to become a real viable area. I'd like to see the height restrictions on PW somehow lowered. I'd like to see the games consolodated to a lesser area, I'd like to see a dinosaur themed carousel for the kiddies and I'd like to see a water fountain/splash area (ala Epcot) for the kiddies on hot days.
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I also think we need to address the whole "Conservation Station" issue. Now here's something that could definitely be reworked. The train ride is a good start. But please, when we get to our destination, could you put something in there that's worth getting to???;)

I felt like a kid who ran to the candy store with a dollar I found, and then, alas, it was closed.:( ;)
 
GREAT point GG, Conservation Station or Rafiki's or whatever it's called has never been a going concern. This area should be utilized much, much better.

I also think more animal attractions need to be in the future. I don't want AK to turn into a ride park with a few animals on the side...
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I bet the first year Everest is operational for a majority of the year it will pass the Studios in attendance. Will that then make the Studios a failure? Animal Kingdom will then have the attendance level that it took the Studios 15 years to reach, and it would have done it in just 6.
 
Originally posted by OnWithTheShow
I bet the first year Everest is operational for a majority of the year it will pass the Studios in attendance. Will that then make the Studios a failure? Animal Kingdom will then have the attendance level that it took the Studios 15 years to reach, and it would have done it in just 6.

Which brings me to a question that is probably a little off-topic, but I'll risk it anyway.;)

With all the fanfare and build up that surrounded Mission:Space - has Epcot seen record crowds since it's opening? I was REALLY disappointed with MS. It was being heralded as totally unique and thrilling - and in the end, it's another simulator. Terribly overblown IMHO. But what are the crowds telling us?
 
Well according to industry "experts" Mission: Space has increased attendance at Epcot. I am sure they are no where near record levels, but the industry as a hole is stiff soft because of the economy and terror threat.
 
By Disney's own justifications for investing the money – Animal Kingdom is a dismal failure. It's only saving grace was that it's not the complete Disney's Chernobyl Adventure out in Anaheim…but that's not a not much of positive.

In terms of extending guest's length of stay, increasing their spending, in keeping them on property and in driving new visitors to WDW – the park has been an abject failure when measured against Disney's own projections and anticipation. The fact that they've lowered their expectation levels year after year after year doesn't make the park anymore successful – it simply makes the annual PowerPoint presentation look less embarrassing.

The problem with AK isn't that Camp Minnie-Mickey is missing a dark ride, that there are no sit down restaurants or the puke crowd misses a roller coaster. The problem is much more important (and to borrow a phrase).

There's no there there.

Disney touted the place as being the next great thing. But as a zoo it's an absolute failure – you learn and see less about animals than at a small sized metropolitan zoo. And the place is an absolute disgrace when compared to the country's best zoological parks and aquariums. Why in the world would anyone that's interested in animals go to AK? TO drive past them at 30mph while listening to a really, really, really, bad phony "we're chasing the poachers" plot line? How 'bout actually saying something new and interesting about the animals we're looking at. Then again, Disney took dinosaurs – living, breathing twelve tons of muscle with foot long daggers-f-or-teeth running towards you at thirty miles per hours – and the best they can come up with is are run down carnival games?

That's Disney imagination?

And for the theme park crowd…like I said – no there there. A store bought flume ride with a "be nice to Mother Nature" theme isn't exactly the way to complete with Universal's 'Hulk' coaster (by the way, the only reason Disney even built AK). And 'Expedition: Everest'…no one's booking airfare to see 'Mission: Space', I don't see any reason why all the people would suddenly decided to Visit: Now. Single attractions don't affect attendance at destination resorts.

AK exists from siphoning off the three other parks at WDW. Most people buy park hoppers, so you might as well visit the place because it's "free". Charge a separate admission – and you'd have the empty walkways of California Adventure right there in Florida.

Actually, perhaps AK's biggest problem is us – the guests. Disney likes to selectively listen to the public these days. Every time they hear someone say "but I just like to sit and stare at the bushes", it deepens their conviction that the park's problems are the fault of the guests. No one goes to AK because they don't "get" the concept, because they don't "get" the non-commando style of park, because those guests just don't appreciate the wonder that Disney built.

Therefore, Disney doesn’t doesn't have to spend any money to fix the parks because the guests are stupid and will eventually come around.

Of course, it's complete denial meant to cover-up their business failings and to justify spending the money elsewhere. Just like Euro Disney was never fixed and just as California Adventure is not being fixed, Animal Kingdom will slowly wilt in the sun unless people start to speak up.
 




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