Are you sending your kids to school next month?

Lumpy1106

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I disagree with this. My 8th and 9th grader have been remote all year. Our choice. Both kids have been engaged with class. My 9th grader's teachers have told me in conferences about how engaged he has been. I do have to stay on top of him with homework but that has been the case since he was in 5th grade so nothing new. My 8th grader has exceled more with being home then at school. She has no drama to deal with to distract her. Both have learned the same amount as they would in school. I am not saying that this works for everyone because I know it does not but that there are kids that are engaged and paying attention to what is happening in there class even though they are remote.



This does not happen here. My kids do not have access to work ahead of time. They get the work as the kids in school get it. They are in the same classes as the kids in school just online. My DD has had 100% in Math both quarters this year and has had none of the work early. She is getting all A's and maybe 1 B. DS is getting all A's and B's and does great on tests. He gets none of his work early. They both do great on test because they study and do the work that is given to them. They have changed none of their school habits either with being home except for eating when they want. They have 10 minutes between classes so they have time to grab a snack.
That's great it's working for them but they are the exception. What's more, they are still going to be set back when schools do re-open. The teachers are going to have to go back and review a lot of what has been taught - you have to teach to the class level. Then there's the toll on the kids - depression from all the isolation, especially High School kids, is rampant. Adolescent suicide due to COVID shutdowns far outpaces adolescent deaths due to COVID. It's not even close.

For every kid for whom remote learning is working, there are dozens who are like my DD15 - withdrawn, barely talks to us, failing classes they would have otherwise aced, unmotivated to the point of not even bothering to take exams. It is a daily, sometimes hourly struggle for me to keep her engaged at all. THAT is the norm.

The real bummer about all of this is it is so unnecessary. Florida has had schools open from the start and they took a lot of flack for that. Well, turns out they got it right, as now every expert is demanding that schools re-open, and many are of my mindset - they should have never closed in the first place.
 

piglet1979

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That's great it's working for them but they are the exception. What's more, they are still going to be set back when schools do re-open. The teachers are going to have to go back and review a lot of what has been taught - you have to teach to the class level. Then there's the toll on the kids - depression from all the isolation, especially High School kids, is rampant. Adolescent suicide due to COVID shutdowns far outpaces adolescent deaths due to COVID. It's not even close.

For every kid for whom remote learning is working, there are dozens who are like my DD15 - withdrawn, barely talks to us, failing classes they would have otherwise aced, unmotivated to the point of not even bothering to take exams. It is a daily, sometimes hourly struggle for me to keep her engaged at all. THAT is the norm.

The real bummer about all of this is it is so unnecessary. Florida has had schools open from the start and they took a lot of flack for that. Well, turns out they got it right, as now every expert is demanding that schools re-open, and many are of my mindset - they should have never closed in the first place.
As I stated before, I know this does not work for all. All I was stating is that it does work for some so your statement of saying it is like this for all is not correct. It has worked for several in my area.

As far as having schools open and Florida did it right. Well I don't think there is really a right way. Each school and each school district is going to be different. They reason why my kids did not go back for the second semester is because our district is no longer quarantining close contact because this is what our governor has said schools can do. My mom's district is still quarantine as before. My mom's school district that has been hybrid and then only elementary students full time have had a total of 295 test positive and 1873 students quarantined at different times through out the year. This is with a mask mandate and social distancing up to 3 feet. My district has had 161 test positive but they didn't tract quarantines.
 

VandVsmama

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My kids are going back in person TOMORROW! We are all thrilled about this!!
Day 1 back in person went well. One of YDD’s BFFs is back in person also, so she’s a happy camper. Same for ODD. For YDD’s art class, it’s just her and the art teacher in person. All the rest of the kids opted to remain online only. Makes for some great one on one instruction! They spent the class period yesterday talking about Marvel movies (relevant to an art project YDD is working on).
 

Lumpy1106

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As I stated before, I know this does not work for all. All I was stating is that it does work for some so your statement of saying it is like this for all is not correct. It has worked for several in my area.

As far as having schools open and Florida did it right. Well I don't think there is really a right way. Each school and each school district is going to be different. They reason why my kids did not go back for the second semester is because our district is no longer quarantining close contact because this is what our governor has said schools can do. My mom's district is still quarantine as before. My mom's school district that has been hybrid and then only elementary students full time have had a total of 295 test positive and 1873 students quarantined at different times through out the year. This is with a mask mandate and social distancing up to 3 feet. My district has had 161 test positive but they didn't tract quarantines.
What you are talking about are, sensible, "abundance of caution" precautions. We we are facing in CA is MORE than a full year of schools completely shut down. This would be the same as if an in-person school had a super-spreader event and they had to close the whole school down - FOR A YEAR. That would be alarming - THAT is what we are going through. I'll take the occasional quarantine, thanks.
 

lanejudy

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For every kid for whom remote learning is working, there are dozens who are like my DD15 - withdrawn, barely talks to us, failing classes they would have otherwise aced, unmotivated to the point of not even bothering to take exams. It is a daily, sometimes hourly struggle for me to keep her engaged at all. THAT is the norm.
I'm really sorry to hear your DD is struggling that severely; I agree many are finding significant challenges due to the COVID closures (long-term or repeated open/closed/open/closed). I do hope you are pursuing some counseling or other mental health assistance to help your DD cope with the current situation. My state has pushed assistance for those who need it -- students or adults -- and it can be a long wait for an appointment. :hug:
 

Lumpy1106

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I'm really sorry to hear your DD is struggling that severely; I agree many are finding significant challenges due to the COVID closures (long-term or repeated open/closed/open/closed). I do hope you are pursuing some counseling or other mental health assistance to help your DD cope with the current situation. My state has pushed assistance for those who need it -- students or adults -- and it can be a long wait for an appointment. :hug:
Thank you - yes, all of the above. NOT GIVING UP!
 
  • Lumpy1106

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    A little update from the alternate universe that is Long Beach. They had a school board meeting last night...and pushed back re-opening schools AGAIN! UURRGGHH!! The last promised was they would open all schools March 1 if the COVID numbers came down into "red". Well, we are on-track to meet that goal, but now they are saying hybrid, 2.5 hours a day, K-5 ONLY March 29, Seniors, April 19 (same nonsense), everyone else a week later. That's what they are saying, we've long ago stopped believing them, and this was all release in a memo BEFORE the meeting. No public discussion whatsoever - shady as all heck. It's a cautionary tale; THIS is what happens when you let the teacher's Union pick the school board members. All are either endorsed or have former, long-standing connections with the union. The parents have no voice and NOBODY is advocating for the kids. Shameful.
     
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    The last of the 3 big districts in my county announced a return to full time in-person learning for all grades effective March 22nd. Elementary is already full time in-person. The other grades have been hybrid or remote.

    As I mentioned earlier the parents have been demanding in-person, have gone to board meetings etc.

    This was from the Board meeting yesterday:
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    It was noted the district made the decision to allow in-person prior to the parents who spoke at the meeting.
     

    mrs. magoo

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    Locally some of the districts are appealing to the state to lift the 6 feet of distance rule so they can have kids come in full time instead of hybrid. My district is just this week allowing high schoolers to come in hybrid. We have 147 out of 800 coming in person. I have been in person since January 4th with the autistic kids. My own kid continues to be hybrid 2 days a week in person. I have to say even with a 3 feet mandate my current room could not hold the 12 kids on the roster for my self contained classes and my class that is co taught there is no way we could have 30 kids in that room and maintain any kind of social distancing. I believe that we will come back full time after April break. That would mean the 4th schedule change for kids.
     

    hulagirl87

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    We received a notice from our school district that they aren't sure how they would be able to accomodate all the students back full time with keeping them at a safe distance. We are all remote here at home right now. DS is first grade and getting a lot more work and learning than DD who is fifth grade. :sad2:
     
  • Lumpy1106

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    A little update from the alternate universe that is Long Beach. They had a school board meeting last night...and pushed back re-opening schools AGAIN! UURRGGHH!! The last promised was they would open all schools March 1 if the COVID numbers came down into "red". Well, we are on-track to meet that goal, but now they are saying hybrid, 2.5 hours a day, K-5 ONLY March 29, Seniors, April 19 (same nonsense), everyone else a week later. That's what they are saying, we've long ago stopped believing them, and this was all release in a memo BEFORE the meeting. No public discussion whatsoever - shady as all heck. It's a cautionary tale; THIS is what happens when you let the teacher's Union pick the school board members. All are either endorsed or have former, long-standing connections with the union. The parents have no voice and NOBODY is advocating for the kids. Shameful.
    Replying to myself to add - the Governor has been touring the vaccine sites for the last few weeks and has repeatedly held up Long Beach as a model for how to get kids back in schools - but the kids AREN'T back in schools!! I dunno - maybe look outside the state for some real motivation?
     

    EACarlson

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    Madison is supposedly having a "Sickout" (also known as an illegal strike) to "protest" that the school board has made the decision to allow some kids to come back to school in 4 weeks. They are one of two districts in the state that is still completely virtual.

    Meanwhile, today marks one week for my 8 year old back in school full time. He is so much happier not having to stare at a computer screen.
     



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