Are you a playdate family?

You teach how to play? :confused3 Yes, my kids make a mess when they play - I just tell them to clean it up when they're done. To me, playing means being creative, without adult intervention. My kids frequently play with toys and games in manners not intended. To me, that's playing. I've always been a big fan of playdates, and I'm actually irritated with myself that dd8, dd6, and ds6 don't have many here, because they're best buddies, and spend hours just playing with each other. I don't care about eating issues, germs, or any other "hazards" of playdates. When my kids were little, I had 2 playgroups each week, starting when dd13 was about 3 months old. I miss them.
 
The messy part, although my house is a bit untidy as I have kids, I don't care for when parents let their kids trash other kids' houses, or, they joke about how rough their kids are. That is not proper play for us, and so that is why we don't do many playdates. We've experienced this with best friends, kids at school and cousins.

Thanks, Tiger

Do you have boys? I have 2, and they have friends, and yes, boys can be rough. They're like puppies, and seem to have a need to wrestle each other to the ground every few minutes. I only have a sister, so this was new to me. I'm always amazed at how somewhat gentle my 120 pound 11 year old wrestles with his aggressive 50 pound 7 year old brother. They're pretty good about not hurting each other, but play is very physical.
 
Hmm, maybe its a Canadian thing. I knew instantly what you meant by 'playdate family'.

For us, its a bit different. DS7 loves to go out to play with friends, either their house or outdoors, when invited. I love for him to get invites because I think playing with others outside of school is important and gives him different social skills than at school or at sports activities (of which he has quite a few). [edited to add: Just saw your post above about number per week... the most playdates DS7 will have a week is one, or one every two weeks, if he had more, we'd never see him... we both work full time and the only time we have to spend a block of quality time with the children is on the weekends... I wouldn't mind weekday playdates but most of DS7's friends are in daycare after school]

DD is 4 but doesn't start school until Sept because she's a Jan baby. She has many activities that she attends but there are only a few children her age on our street so she doesn't get invited to playdates because she doesn't really know children her own age. DS2 is just too young but does have activities like gymnastics and playgroup once a week to learn to socialize.

As for in our house, I feel guilty at times but I'm not a fan of having other children over. I try to becuase if I don't, DS7 will likely not be invited to others places which is only fair. Our schedule is hectic and the only down time we have with teh children is on the weekends really. I'm selfish and like having time with them on my own. DS2 also naps in the afternoon and most of DS7's friends don't have younger brothers or sisters so its a bit disruptive to DS2's schedule when others are over (in part because he gets excited and doesn't want to nap with company in the house).

Overall, I think playdates are important but I'm not a fan of having them in my house, but I do (although likely less than other parents) I suspect my view of having other children in will change as the other two get older and get friends of their own... right now, they feel left out when DS7 has friends in ... not sure if that helps :goodvibes

Maybe it is a Canadian thing? Thanks for that! I did edit my original post as I was missing some pertinent info about ages of kids, amounts of playdates, etc. For us, DH and I are working professionals, so we just don't have time to have many friends over, nor do we have time to go their houses. On weekends, we are busy with family stuff like church, visiting relatives, grocery shopping, school activities, charity stuff, etc., and so we don't have time to schedule 3-4 hour playdates either, as I believe that at younger ages, the kids must be supervised. Plus, my kids have low blood sugar and asthma, so we need to eat regularly, etc.

Once my kids get a little older, then I know things will change, but at these young ages, I just don't think that multiple playdates each week, is necessary, nor is it the only way for kids to learn about cultural or social skills. DH and I don't really go out with friends either, so maybe this is a bit unfair to our kids at this stage, but we just don't have time. The little bit of time we have (which is hardly any) is taken up with many other things. I just don't see how families are able to schedule regular and multiple playdates each week? We do eat together each night, attend church together, grocery shop together, etc., and so I think the bonding that we do in this respect is so vital to my kids' healthy developments, and playdates are just one small aspect of it, as they have the opportunity to play at school, and in the spring/fall/summer, they play outside with their best friends next door.

Thanks, Tiger
 
We are the exact opposite of your family on the scale - we are a playdate family. My DD is in kindergarten, and in our location that means she only goes on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and the occasional Friday. That leaves a lot of time to fill!

We have (and go to) lots and lots of playdates - at least one, sometimes as many as four in a week.

When our DD and her friends were younger, the playdates were definitely "supervised". Everyone understood that the parent came along, and stayed to watch over & guide their child's behaviour. But now that DD is 6 they are definitely the "parent-drops-off-child-and-takes-offffff!!!!" type. :lmao:

What I find is that it is EASIER when DD has a friend over. She's so busy playing with her friend that I can get a lot of things done around the house. It's a great time to tidy up the kitchen, fold laundry, make beds, sort out closets, etc. My girlfriends think the same. We often get a call requesting that we send our girl over to a friend's house - so the parents can get some light projects done.:laughing:

We just make it clear that some rooms are off-limits and we tell DD and her friend exactly what we expect (i.e. "please don't go into our laundry room and the office. Those rooms are out of bounds. please do NOT play with water inside"). We structure the time a little (first hour for play, then I always offer a snack). We make it clear that if a toy is broken, it must get "reported" immediately - not because any punishment is forthcoming, but because a broken toy presents a potential safety hazard. But that's it - we usually let the children run around without having to worry too much.

If your playdate guests are willfully misbehaviing then I think that is a separate issue from having playdates.

I personally feel that my DD is getting so much from her playdates, I can't imagine not doing them. She has so many good friends now with whom she has learned to negotiate, compromise and problem-solve. Play in a longer, unstructured, lower-supervised home setting is so very different from the play she gets at school! She gets so much joy and pleasure from being with her friends, sharing toys and figuring out how to behave as a guest and as a hostess.... to me the benefits far, far outweigh the temporary inconviences of some mess and noise.
 

I think we've all got a different perception of what "play" means to us.

To me, play could be the boys doing anything from building with Legos to playing with their Leapsters to making arts and crafts to racing toy trucks. Play also involves a lot of physical activity with my boys as they like to be moving. When they can't get outside to use the jungle gym and the yard, they play lots of hide and seek, dodgeball with balloons (yes, I condone this as it's impossible to knock anything over with a balloon), tumbling and wrestling with each other and with DH.

I do think that little boys wrestling with each other is as natural as a pile of puppies wrestling with each other (I can hear the gasps - relax - I'm not comparing my children to dogs... ;) ). It teaches them self control and how to inhibit themselves so as to not hurt others. Not to gender stereotype, but in my experience it tends to be boys that like to wrestle. When we have girls over the play tends to focus more on arts and crafts and such things. Different styles of play yet they can always find a common ground with one another.

I do expect them to clean up after themselves and we have bins for everything. "A place for everything and everything in its place". Egads, I'm channeling my mom!

So yes, I do like playdates but then again I love having a house full of activity so it's a personal preference. Joyful chaos.
 
As a mom of 4 kids I feel like there are always extra kids at my house playing. Yes, sometimes it's frustrating because they break things and get lots of toys out. I just tell myself "Life's messy. Clean it up!"

They do grow up someday and the house will stay clean, at least that's what I'm told!:confused3
 
It's always funny to me how many Internet psychologists are on the DISboards...LOL! There is nothing pathological about it - I don't let my kids trash anything, why is that a necessary skill? By the way, once you have taught them to clean it up, you are teaching them to play.:thumbsup2 So, if they come to my house and trash it, and then don't clean it up, what then?

My kids interact with the United Nations at school, family and church, so this may be important for some in respect to play, but around here, my kids take part in lots of different cultural experiences in many different areas.

Again, people have totally misunderstood my post. I just was wondering if other families do playdates and how you handle the problems that come with it? My child is not afraid of my disapproval at all in regards to friends, she is still only 6, and has different friends from different social classes, religions and ethnic groups. I'm not sure how play is the only way to achieve these things?

That's kind of my point - I have friends who say that playdates are the only way to achieve these things, yet my kids have limited playdate experiences, yet they are very multicultural and well-mannered kids who know how to behave in many different situations. But, if it's a new situation, we always talk about expectations and what might happen, and go from there.

Thanks, Tiger

...but this clarifies your original post. In your original post it sounds as if you are dictating how your children actually play. That you don't want other children over because they make messes. This is quite different than you have had issues with other children following your rules or cleaning up after themselves or being unnecessarily destructive with toys. I have a wide age range in children (13,9,2,3m) the older 2 have people over and go over to others houses frequently. At their ages they know that different families have different rules, and what is acceptable here may not be there and vice versa. If I have a child that breaks my house rules I will tell them the 1st time "We don't allow {whatever} in our house" if they do it a second time then they are told if it happens again they will have to go home. If it happens a 3rd time they go home. This is really only necessary with children who haven't been to our home. Of course with larger things like hitting there is no 2nd warning, they just go. My children also know that they are to follow others rules as well as our own when in others homes. I would hope that other parents would tell me if there were problems with my kids behavior. As far as clean up maybe you should warn them from the outset. Tell them that you will tell them half an hour before the "date" is supposed to end that it is clean up time, and the rules in your house are that you are to clean up your own mess. I would also expect parents to be responsible for replacing an item if their child was unnecessarily destructive and broke a toy. I, too would accept that responsibility if it were my child. (My 2 year old threw my son's friend's DS in the toilet! :sad2:) (she is in a flushing phase) I replaced it that day.

I agree, your kids are young yet, hopefully as they get older and make a more "steady" circle of friends who are at your house regularly your house rules will be known and followed.

I also agree that a 6 year old does not need 5 play dates a week, but 1 every week or every other might be a good idea.
 
Ahh, YOU asked how other families do it. And we're telling you.

My son, 8, has playmates over a couple of times a week. (It's easiest on both families if it's here.) So yes, the place is messy, particularly the family room. Thinks occasionally get broken. Ehh, so what? Not all that important to me. Of course, when I was growing up, they weren't called 'dates" but everybody did them. And to not have your kids playing with other kids, whatever you call it, is frankly pretty strange. I don't think you'll find much support for it. It smacks of a whole lot of unnecessary control.

I re-edited my original post with some clarifications. I can't imagine having friends over here a couple of times a week, as I've said, we just don't have the time for it. I also didn't say my kids don't play with other kids - goodness gracious. I said we don't have kids over here several times per week, nor do we go to other kids' homes multiple times per week. We just don't have time for it.

It sounds like you're having problems with setting up boundaries with kids that come over to your house and them following them. I always tell any/all kids that come over the rules as soon as they walk in, and then you'll probably have to stay "on top" of some of them for a little while (because they're looking to see what kind of parent you are and if you're actually going to make them follow the rules ect.) Once you redirect and remind them the first couple times they aren't following the rules, in my experience at least, they get it and they do what they're told. Most kids I know, and mine, won't push those kinds of limits at someone elses house, and while it'd be great if all kids were like that, some aren't, but are just looking for structure and once they find out that you're not going to allow things, they adjust themselves to what is expected.-In my experience.

This is a good point, but in most cases, the parents are here, and stuff still happens. So, I can't discipline another child, as that's not my place, and this gets awkward. When the parents haven't been here, despite the parents telling me the rules in front of their own kids, the kids in many cases, haven't followed them. This gets awkard too - this is one of my biggest issues with playdates. It makes for very awkward situations - how about the parents who let their kids play rough and break toys? We don't allow this at our house, so then we have issues again. Not sure how to handle this, as we've had some very special toys broken and although it's a great teachable moment for my kids, it's not fair to them either. This is one area that we need to work on, but not sure how? We have a huge family room/play room, and it awesome. Lots of centres/play areas, bins, castle, ride along toys, crafts, etc., so there is lots for kids to do, but I find some of the kids get too excited as they aren't used to some of those toys, and this causes problems. We don't want to give kids a list of rules in order to come over here, so this is an awkward area that I don't know how to handle?

"I taught my kids how to play" Or "how to play properly" may not be the way to phrase it. Do you mean you taught your kids to follow house rules? How to take care with their things and other people's thing? How to clean up after themselves? This is quite different than teaching them "how" to play or the "proper way" to play.

Unfortunately, you do sound a mite paranoid and controlling in saying that you taught them the "proper way" to play and that you don't want other kids at your house because of messes and liabilities, and that you don't want your kids at others houses because of illnesses.

Yes, my kids play at others houses and others play here. My oldest (13,9) are a little big for the organized play date. It is more of a "Can I go over X's house?" or "Can X come over?" There are friends homes at which my children are not allowed to go because their house rules are too far off ours. We have house rules and all children in the house are expected to follow them. I will not hesitate to take a child home that flaunts the rules. Yes, some children are rougher, and their manners are not as good. We lay out the rules at the outset. Everyone knows they are expected to follow them and most times they do. Yes, some friends warrant a closer "eye." As for clean up, I give the kids a half hour warning before the time the child is expected home and tell them it is time to clean up.

If you will do some more research you will find out that peer relationships are also very important. If your oldest is 6, and I assume in K or 1st, then she might be a bit young, but believe me starting at about grade 2, same sex friendships outside of school become very important. Free unstructured play outside of school is quite different than the interaction a child gets at extracurriculars and school itself.

Yes, this is what I mean. Sorry, this is how it's usually phrased, in my experience, as it means sharing, cleaning up, etc. Like I said, this is not innate for many kids that I see, and so since my kids have been younger, we have played along side of them (not so much with DD as she's 6, but still with 2 year old), and work things out with them. Now that my DD is 6, and in grade 1, she plays with her older cousins (the nieces I mentioned), they are encouraged to come up with solutions and work stuff out themselves. They play with each other at least 1x per week, but again, I know that playing with cousins is similar to playing with siblings (at least with our kids). She has played with my nieces' friends for a couple of playdates at my sister's house, and these went well, but again, they are much older than my daughter.

How do you know how your children behave at other's people's home? How do you know they follow the rules of that family? I can understand teaching kids to respect other homes and not to go into rooms that are off limits but how do you know that they applied this? This is where I am confused by your post. Other children may not have those rules in their own homes so it is hard to apply at first.

A friend of mine told me she had a little boy over who jumped on her couch. She told him that was not allowed in her home. Kid did it again, she reminded him not to do that. When the mom picked the kid up, my friend mentioned it and they are allowed to do this at home, so it was hard for this child to apply these new rules at first.

I just let kids play, yes there are play based preschools but I think kids get the hang of it. I dont know how you teach them to play.:confused3

We do playdates, my kids attend a school where their friends are scattered all over the town, so driving and scheduling have to happen, they do have some friends in the neighborhood but we have more playdates, sometimes a lot and sometimes they get the social interaction from the weekend activities like sports.

My kids are not sick very often and if they are it is usually something that is going around the classroom or the basketball team, not specifically from playdates.

I know she follows rules most of the time, as she is mostly supervised. Funny you mention the jumping on couch - we had that exact same situation! The little girl not only defied us at 5 years of age, she also went into our bedroom, even though door was closed. I was in the kitchen getting something for them, and my DD went in there to get her out, and she yelled at my DD and started to cry. She eventually stopped, but we haven't had her over since, as she is very sensitive, and almost got hurt on the couch, as she almost fell off. I went over to the couch, as did my friend, whose DD was also over, and she wouldn't stop. It was a weird situation...

You teach how to play? :confused3 Yes, my kids make a mess when they play - I just tell them to clean it up when they're done. To me, playing means being creative, without adult intervention. My kids frequently play with toys and games in manners not intended. To me, that's playing. I've always been a big fan of playdates, and I'm actually irritated with myself that dd8, dd6, and ds6 don't have many here, because they're best buddies, and spend hours just playing with each other. I don't care about eating issues, germs, or any other "hazards" of playdates. When my kids were little, I had 2 playgroups each week, starting when dd13 was about 3 months old. I miss them.

Wow! I can't imagine how you had the time for that? Did you work outside of the home? We literally don't have that kind of time. In regards to the hazards, we've had kids hurt here, because they've disobeyed their parents or were being hyper, so we always worry seeing as we have a big play structure in our backyard, should someone else get hurt. This is actually common with most of my friends/family with pools, playstructures and trampolines, around here.

Do you have boys? I have 2, and they have friends, and yes, boys can be rough. They're like puppies, and seem to have a need to wrestle each other to the ground every few minutes. I only have a sister, so this was new to me. I'm always amazed at how somewhat gentle my 120 pound 11 year old wrestles with his aggressive 50 pound 7 year old brother. They're pretty good about not hurting each other, but play is very physical.

I have a 2 year old boy and a girl. We don't allow wrestling over here - both of my kids wear glasses, so that's a no-go. When my kids are too physical, we put a stop to it as we don't find it acceptable, and I don't want them doing that at someone else's house. Different ways to play...they get lots of physical activity outside, and at school, but we don't allow wrestling at all, so I don't have experience with this.

Thanks for all opinions - I am not a control freak mom who needs psychological counselling...DH and I just find that with very young kids, not only do we not have much time for playdates, there always seems to be issues, which I know are great teachable moments, but it gets frustrating for my DD, as she really is so well behaved when she goes for playdates or to birthday parties - but again, it's a good life's lesson. She has a great sense of compassion and inclusivity, but when other kids are over here, they aren't all like that, so it's great for her to realize that everyone plays and learns differently (she is also a peer helper at school usually at least 1x per day, and has done so with autistic and down syndrome kids as well). It gets really frustrating when she sees the parents not reminding the kids to clean up, or to calm down if they are being rough. Again, different ideas of play and we don't want to judge or insult anyone else, as that is not acceptable, so at this point, since our kids are younger, we don't have many regular, weekly playdates.

Maybe I didn't word my original post correctly...sorry, my sinus headache is bad, and I can't sleep as it hurts to lie down, so I'm on here trying to stay awake with a very sore head. :sick: Thanks for all suggestions and opinions - we are looking at trying to incorporate a few more playdates as DD is 6 now, but as I said, there is lots to consider.

Tiger
 
We do play dates, maybe not all the time but we have them. DS1 is 7 and is busy with school and hockey right now but starting in a few weeks the friends coming over after school will start, and him going over there. Which is great.

DS2 is 4.5 and has playschool 2 times a week he gets to play with friends there and then sometimes we have a few moms over for coffee while the kids play. Its great. Social for me and him.

Other Ds is only an infant so his playdates consit of moms playing with him while they are here!!LOL

I think it is important, and I understand the mess issue, but I help clean up after people have been over as well and this makes my kids happier as they do not do it all by themselves. Most of the time this is no longer needed but there is a few friends that seem to lack that life skill of picking up after themselves, and I know my kids fail to do it as well, but really try and thats what matters.

We have had issues with'rough' kids and we try to limit interaction with kids like this as it is harder on my younger kids. We still are friends with them and Ds1 still hangs out with them at school and such but its not a daily thing. Plus I tend to hav e them at my house as I know what kind of supervision they are then getting!

Good luck I think as the kids grow you will see that they may need more 'playdates' and also as they get older they are more responsible.
 
OP- I hate to say it but your posts come off really snooty to me. You are a "Montessorri Family" your children know how to "properly play" they never misbehave etc.

I hate to tell you this but all kids misbehave at one time or another. All kids will touch something they are not supposed to at one time or another. Going to Montessorri also has nothing to do with anything as well as your being a teacher doesn't make you somehow a more educated parent.
I don't know if you meant to come off that way but that was my interpretation.

As for the low blood sugar and asthma issues, well plenty of kids have issues and you just work around it. If your kids have friends over then offer a snack. I don't really get why that is a problem.:confused3

Kids can learn to socialize in many ways with many people but the things that you have described seems to imply that they mostly socialize with adults or with children in a controlled environment. Meeting children from the UN is much different than playing Barbies all afternoon with a best friend. We vacation as well but the few minutes here and there that they will speak to another child at the pool or on line is not the same as playing Star Wars with their friends.

My children have manners,play nicely etc. and I think that is just part of parenting in general. Teaching them to play is in my opinion an oxymoron. Play is creativity. You can't teach creativity. It is imagination and ideas. I can't teach someone to have ideas and thoughts. If you can then more power to you but I have yet to meet anyone who could teach someone to only have certain thoughts and certain amounts of creativity.

I will agree that I don't have 3-4 playdates a week because we do not have the time and there are no playdates on school nights. (common rule around here) I will however let my kids have friends over on the weekends or on Friday afternoons. They need time with their friends that are their own age. As much as I like sharing a cup of coffee with my friends they enjoy chit chatting with their friends.
 
We are a playdate family, although boys don't call them dates :) I do agree with some PP that your kids are too young - don't worry about it now. Once they get a little older in school, friends will call (or their moms will call) and invite your child over.

It started in the second half of 1st grade for my son, with moms usually handling the details, based on a request from the child to invite someone from school over. Families usually try to reciprocate - those that don't reciprocate or always say no, eventually get called less and less. My son and his friends started doing their own calling, probably late in 3rd grade (great experience for phone ettiquette).

As far as frequency, we work full time, so play dates are only one afternoon on the weekend, usually from 1-4:30pm. That's if homework is done, we aren't already busy with sports and no relatives are visiting. I imagine that playdates that are happening 3-5 days a week must be with families that have a stay at home parent and kids that don't go to school full time. I can't imagine having that much free time.

Again, I think will happen naturally as your kids grow older, and you will get more comfortable as it happens. It is a great way to get to know your klids friends from school and their families as well.
 
Hi Tiger! :)

I don't think my kid (now 5) has ever had a true planned "playdate". My definition of playdate = setting a time in advance for another child or children (and probably their mothers) to come over and play with my kid. Never really did that. We did a lot of interacting at Moms club events and preschool, but we never really had many playdates.

Right now, the only kid he really has over to play is the little girl next door. Her mom and I have known each other for 10 years, so we are comfortable letting our kids play together and I'm comfortable explaining our house rules to her DD just as she is comfortable explaining her rules to my DS. If one of the kids chooses to ignore those rules, they go back home. Easy to do when you live right next door!

Now that he is getting older and will be making more friends at school, I hope to invite a friend over from time to time to play for a few hours. I guess I don't consider that a playdate. Playdate seems to imply toddlers to me.

I want to be a house where kids feel comfortable coming to play. I want my kid and his friends to "hang out" at our house. So, I'm trying to establish that early. So, if your definition of playdate includes school age kids coming over to play for the day or even sleeping over, then I guess I want to be a playdate family. But I will be selective of kids that are invited over and I will expect that visiting kids obey my rules. If they can't do that, then we won't be able to invite them back!
 
For us, DH and I are working professionals, so we just don't have time to have many friends over, nor do we have time to go their houses. On weekends, we are busy with family stuff like church, visiting relatives, grocery shopping, school activities, charity stuff, etc., and so we don't have time to schedule 3-4 hour playdates either, as I believe that at younger ages, the kids must be supervised. Plus, my kids have low blood sugar and asthma, so we need to eat regularly, etc.

It's amazing how similar we are, even down to the asthma (DS#2 is no stranger to the nebulizer), although we can have different perceptions on playdates. :goodvibes

It makes for very awkward situations - how about the parents who let their kids play rough and break toys? We don't allow this at our house, so then we have issues again. Not sure how to handle this, as we've had some very special toys broken and although it's a great teachable moment for my kids, it's not fair to them either. This is one area that we need to work on, but not sure how?

Put the high-value toys away before company comes over. There are certain toys that I don't leave out for community play as I don't want to risk them. For guests at my house, as the hostess I have no problems gently correcting other kids in front of their parents or politely asking the parent to remind their child about our house rules. If my kid was behaving inappropriately in a similar situation I'd have no problem with the nearest adult correcting them. It may make for an awkward few moments but we manage to move on.
 
You seem to have devoted a lot of thought to this OP,and it certainly is your right to not be a "playdate family" as you call it. However, I think every school or grade has at least one kid who never has anyone over for whatever reason, or doesn't go to other kids' houses for whatever reason. Just be advised that after a while, people might stop inviting your child, since she won't come over, it's an exercise in futility, so they might as well invite someone who wants/is able to come over.

Also, if you don't reciprocate, sometimes parents tend to get annoyed about that. Like if someone has your kid over to play with their kid, and you never reciprocate, I think some parents will start to feel used. Is it necessarily right, no, but I think it's a fact. Your kids are young now, but in a couple of years your dd may start to feel left out.

I mean, it's fine to say you taught your kids how to play so they behave impeccably at others' homes, but how do you really know that unless you are right there? I never "tattled" to the parents of my kids' playdates if the kids had a spat or made a mess or some other minor infractions-of course I would tell them if anything dangerous happened.

As for the liability issues you are concerned about (someone getting hurt at your house I guess?) my suggestion is to purchase a large umbrella insurance policy. They are not expensive and the peace of mind is very worth it.
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I wanted to add, our "playdates" do not include the parent staying! I would not want to host a parent. I am busy with laundry, cooking, cleaning etc. and just keep an eye on the boys. Of course, my son and his friends didn't start playing at each other's houses until they were older.
 
OP- I hate to say it but your posts come off really snooty to me. You are a "Montessorri Family" your children know how to "properly play" they never misbehave etc.

I hate to tell you this but all kids misbehave at one time or another. All kids will touch something they are not supposed to at one time or another. Going to Montessorri also has nothing to do with anything as well as your being a teacher doesn't make you somehow a more educated parent.
I don't know if you meant to come off that way but that was my interpretation.

As for the low blood sugar and asthma issues, well plenty of kids have issues and you just work around it. If your kids have friends over then offer a snack. I don't really get why that is a problem.:confused3

Kids can learn to socialize in many ways with many people but the things that you have described seems to imply that they mostly socialize with adults or with children in a controlled environment. Meeting children from the UN is much different than playing Barbies all afternoon with a best friend. We vacation as well but the few minutes here and there that they will speak to another child at the pool or on line is not the same as playing Star Wars with their friends.

My children have manners,play nicely etc. and I think that is just part of parenting in general. Teaching them to play is in my opinion an oxymoron. Play is creativity. You can't teach creativity. It is imagination and ideas. I can't teach someone to have ideas and thoughts. If you can then more power to you but I have yet to meet anyone who could teach someone to only have certain thoughts and certain amounts of creativity.

I will agree that I don't have 3-4 playdates a week because we do not have the time and there are no playdates on school nights. (common rule around here) I will however let my kids have friends over on the weekends or on Friday afternoons. They need time with their friends that are their own age. As much as I like sharing a cup of coffee with my friends they enjoy chit chatting with their friends.

As a teacher, I love kid things, so my friends say that our house is so full of kid friendly stuff! Not meant to sound snooty at all - all it means with being a Montessori family is that our house is kid friendly with bins, hooks, lot of activities. Someone mentioned that maybe house isn't kid friendly, or to have things at their level, I think? Sorry, I assume that everyone knows how the Montessori philosophy works - not saying it's the best way, it's just how our home is structured for our kids. It's never my intention to insult or judge others. It's just a way to better explain the situations that my kids experience on a daily basis in terms of how our house is structured - lots of bins, activity areas, etc. like at school, as it works very well, as my kids are very self-sufficient in this respect, and they can never claim boredom as there are a multitude of things to do. Sorry about that.

I haven't taught creativity either - both of my kids are very creative and sit for hours playing together with minimal supervision: they play school, Disney World, restaurant, hotel, arts/crafts, doctor, etc. This is something that we don't force at all - as a teacher, I'm all about creativity! Sorry if I confused you.

Thanks, Tiger
 
It seems that playdates at your home would work better if the parent isn't there - around here, parents don't stay once they're out of preschool, and even then, parents usually only stay a couple of times.

As for boys and wrestling, I think preventing it is like teaching a dog not to scratch - it's so biologically ingrained. The trick is learning not to hurt each other. It's friendly, not mean. Boys just seem to need to constantly touch each other, like lion cubs. The same way girls seem to need to hug and hold hands.
 
Well, not sure about the Canadian thing, since we're Canadian too and do have play dates. Our kids are DS8 and DD7. These play dates have definitely evolved since they were three and four, but we have been having them since then. Prior to that it was Gymboree or other such mommy and baby groups. We also started our kids in a Montessori school initially (although I'm not sure what effect that has on play styles) but now they are in an independent school where kids are bussed in from a very wide area and this sometimes makes it more challenging. Their first social interactions were play times with the kids from their Montessori school. At those ages they were as much mommy social interactions as they were kid social interactions and often the who was dictated by which mommies were friends.

As the kids got older, chose their own friends, and the play dates took on the drop and run style; I have had to be more of the enforcer of rules. When the other moms were present I'd just remind my own kids of the rules in front of the other mom and she'd reinforce it in her own kiddos. There was really only ever one instance where the other mom didn't concern herself with her kid's behaviour while at our house and my very simple answer was to stop having play dates with that family. That was still back in the mommy comes too days.

I enjoy the interaction my kids get from playing with someone other than their sibling AND in playing with their own gender since it seems between my two someone always has to play a "girl game" or a "boy game". You're right on boy play vs girl play MyDizneyboyz, sometimes that means DD has to participate in WWE play and sometimes DS has to be a kitty. :lmao: For this reason, they enjoy these play dates as well. The only real issue I have with play dates now is that since they are at that fairness, everyone has to get the same opportunities stage I am always having to juggle who has who over. If DS has a play date Monday, I better make sure DD has one as well or at least has one planned later in the week. Sometimes I get around this by planning "group days" at a local indoor play center. Then several friends of differing genders get together and they can climb, jump and run to their hearts content. I also get my adult, "what is happening in your classroom?" fix since adults are required to be present.

As far as frequency goes - no we do not have them four times per week. That would be unmanageable. Between homework, extracurricular activities and family events, we probably manage one every week or two...sometimes we go several weeks without one and sometimes we might have a birthday party AND a separate set of play dates on one weekend. Those are the Sunday nights where I talk to no one; shut the phone off and tell DH to leave me alone. :laughing:
 
You seem to have devoted a lot of thought to this OP,and it certainly is your right to not be a "playdate family" as you call it. However, I think every school or grade has at least one kid who never has anyone over for whatever reason, or doesn't go to other kids' houses for whatever reason. Just be advised that after a while, people might stop inviting your child, since she won't come over, it's an exercise in futility, so they might as well invite someone who wants/is able to come over.

Also, if you don't reciprocate, sometimes parents tend to get annoyed about that. Like if someone has your kid over to play with their kid, and you never reciprocate, I think some parents will start to feel used. Is it necessarily right, no, but I think it's a fact. Your kids are young now, but in a couple of years your dd may start to feel left out.

I mean, it's fine to say you taught your kids how to play so they behave impeccably at others' homes, but how do you really know that unless you are right there? I never "tattled" to the parents of my kids' playdates if the kids had a spat or made a mess or some other minor infractions-of course I would tell them if anything dangerous happened.

As for the liability issues you are concerned about (someone getting hurt at your house I guess?) my suggestion is to purchase a large umbrella insurance policy. They are not expensive and the peace of mind is very worth it.
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That's the thing though - playdates are only big with some of the people I know, many others are way too busy like us, so there aren't a lot of invites at all. Plus, our kids are younger, so again, they need to be supervised (the baby for sure), so that's an issue as well. All of my friends are working professionals like us, so time is very limited. My best friend who does a lot of playdates is part-time with a younger child at home, so this is part of her thing, as she has more time to devote to it.

Please don't misunderstand that I'm saying my kids are perfect, and that all kids who come here are not. Of course, my kids have issues, and we've had some playdates that were great with other kids, but as of late, we've had lots of issues, and so it's in these areas that I'm looking for guidance or tips.

Thanks, Tiger
 
Well my children are still young, but DS (3) started to have playdates last year. With my circle of friends (mostly teachers) we all seem to have the same rules and have the same expectations of our kids, so it's really easy during summer playgroups. But now that I am home on maternity leave this year, I have started attending playgroup within our neighborhood. I am the kind of person who keeps a clean house and DS keeps his toys neat and organized, but I have learned through this process that many families are different than ours and that's ok. If we have kids over the parents stay since they are all so young (4 and under) and I just allow them to play and have fun. Once everyone leaves, the cleaning begins :rotfl2: I will never be a 'playdate' kind of mom (especially when I return to work next school year), but DS needs to play with the other kids and it's great to see socialize with other kids his age. :goodvibes
 


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