I too am having this problem. My wife, 2 early teen boys, and myself cannot do a value unless we get a suite and pay alot extra. Well we are already making changes from our previous trips such as driving this year instead of flying... 23hrs. from Maine uuuggghhh. School vac. times are killer airfare $$. We are not doing the dining plan and possibly not getting the park hopper/water park tickets...just going base. The thing the family does not want to change is staying on Disney property. We have stayed at POR, CSR, and CBR in the past. My problem is stay at a mod with queen beds or go against family wishes and stay at an offsite with 3 beds...at probably alot less cost. Vistana Villages looks awful tempting. Good luck with whatever you do. I wish I had a suggestion for you.