Anyone watching CNN with the Live Interview of the Mother that beat her child?

[Poohbear123]

Thank YOU Patrick!

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Eros, what is exactly your point on here? Doesn't all of the rhetoric take away from the facts of this issue? Are you saying that she's not a bad person, because everyone is basically flawed or imperfect. Sounds like it has religious undertones to me.

I'm already missing one post on here, but this is an important issue and it shouldn't get distorted like so many rants on the CB!

 

[Saffron]

Oh good grief. Can't we have a conversation around here without being lumped into GROUPS and labled? Does it always have to degenerate to name calling if someone strongly disagrees with you?

I read this entire thread, and no where on here did I read where anyone said they were perfert or Holier than thou. And, why does religion always have to come into the discussion?????

 

[pumba]

good point

 

[CookieGVB]

Consider the source, Saffron.

Where's that sledgehammer smilie when you need it?

 

[Mickey's sunshine]

Bravo Patrick and Saffron!!! *clap clap*

 

[snoopy]

Oh, please.

Fine, EROS, you go ahead and show mercy to this monster (and yep, that is what she is - I saw her on tape, did you see the same tape as I did????). Its certainly your right. If it makes me holier than thou because MY mercy is for this poor child, then so be it.

 

[Saffron]

Pumba!

 

[CookieGVB]

Isn't it amazing how people will change their minds about something the more you hammer them over the head about it?

Are you starting to change your mind yet?

 

[Disney Doll]

My personal opinion is that a "parent" who looks around to see if anyone is watching, then hits her small child repeatedly for what probably seemed like a very long time to the poor defenseless child strapped into a car seat, and then dyes her hair(perhaps in an effort to disguise herself?)is doing more than disciplining her child with a spanking. The worst part is that the child apparently didn't even do anything that aggravated the "mother", the whole incident took place because the "mother" didn't receive a refund that she expected from the store.

If there are those DISers who don't know the difference between a disciplinary spanking and child abuse, I guess I feel bad for their kids.

 

[fkj2]

It's easy to act remorseful, once you get caught. How does this not make her evil? Nothing justifies doing it in the first place.

I don't know if she was acting when she gave the TV interview; she actually sounded as though she meant it. And, I can understand why she wouldn't want her daughter living in foster care what with the stories like those out of Florida where they "lose" the kids, some now for over a year.

Even the prosecutor acknowledged that the child didn't have "visible" injuries and I am in no way condoning what the mom did but it may have been a shock for her to see herself on the video as well. We often have an inability to see ourselves as the rest of the world does and I've often seen parents
screaming or otherwise berating their children in public. Those words can be just as hurtful as those slaps, maybe more so but there aren't any telltale marks. In fact, I remember my nephew as a 12 year old returning from the bathroom at WDW and telling me he saw a man hold out the arm of his son, around 5, and slap the underside of it as a punishment for something the kid had done. I can assure you the portion of the arm on the underside of the wrist with the hand extended backward exposes the tendons and is quite painful with the slap from an adult hand.

None are so defenseless as children and old people and there's plenty of abuse to go around. It should make us all take a deep breath and pause the next time we lose our tempers for whatever reason.

Isn't it funny......we humans can be so harsh sometimes but we expect God to forgive us anything.

 

[browneyes]

EROS, as a child of physical abuse, I still stand by my feelings that that woman needs to serve a long sentence for her crime against that poor defenseless child. I have spanked my children when they have misbehaved, but I have never beatten them. And I have never laid a hand on them in a fit of anger.


I believe NO child deserves to live in fear of "the next time".

 

[missymouse3367]

God forgives, but children sometimes can't. I know that abuse takes many forms, and sometimes it can never be forgiven. I am glead that this little girl will hopefully be with someone who knows that children are learning from what they are taught.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by fkj2
I don't know if she was acting when she gave the TV interview; she actually sounded as though she meant it. And, I can understand why she wouldn't want her daughter living in foster care what with the stories like those out of Florida where they "lose" the kids, some now for over a year.

Even the prosecutor acknowledged that the child didn't have "visible" injuries and I am in no way condoning what the mom did but it may have been a shock for her to see herself on the video as well. We often have an inability to see ourselves as the rest of the world does and I've often seen parents
screaming or otherwise berating their children in public. Those words can be just as hurtful as those slaps, maybe more so but there aren't any telltale marks. In fact, I remember my nephew as a 12 year old returning from the bathroom at WDW and telling me he saw a man hold out the arm of his son, around 5, and slap the underside of it as a punishment for something the kid had done. I can assure you the portion of the arm on the underside of the wrist with the hand extended backward exposes the tendons and is quite painful with the slap from an adult hand.

None are so defenseless as children and old people and there's plenty of abuse to go around. It should make us all take a deep breath and pause the next time we lose our tempers for whatever reason.

Isn't it funny......we humans can be so harsh sometimes but we expect God to forgive us anything.

Well, I think that this child is much better in foster care. I can only judge by what I have seen in the video. It was a blatant case of child abuse. I can't comment on what your nephew saw. No amount of spin, or distortion will change my mind on this issue. I guess the law agrees, or they wouldn't have removed her child.

 

[kylara]

I saw the interview for only a bit until my b/f made me change the channel. She really turned his stomach when she was on TV. He didn't believe a word she said. The part that got me, was when she said that it wouldn't have been as "big" if she wasn't part of the group knows as the travelers. Sorry, but when I saw the tape, I didn't know that...actually didn't hear that til days later. I based what I saw on the tape....which was her fist hitting the little girl.

Is she remorseful...I don't know. I don't think just because someone seems a certain way when being interviewed on TV, that is how they really are. Haven't been able to take any interview at face value since the Susan Smith case.

But I also admit to some confusion about her interview. The news channel I saw, seemed to say that she gave the interview prior to turning herself in. If that is the case, then I would be less inclined to believe it. Oh, and as much as I agree that some foster care systems are chaos, I still wouldn't want this child with her family...the same family that didn't step in knowing that she was wanted for abusing the child.

 

[missymouse3367]

She was asked if she could say anything to Marta her daughter what would it be. She did not say Iam sorry or I love you!

 

[EROS]

"When children test parents' limits, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that parents should use methods other than spanking to discipline their children.

Spanking has negative consequences and is no more effective than other forms of discipline. In fact, there's often a gray area between when spanking ends and child abuse begins (except for our noble DISers).

Many parents may think they can remain calm when they spank their children. However, in a 1996 survey, 44 percent of surveyed parents said they had used corporal punishment but half of those said they were angry when they punished their children. And, approximately 85 percent said they felt moderate to high anger, remorse and agitation while punishing their children.

If the spanking is spontaneous, parents should later explain calmly why they did it, the specific behavior that provoked it, and how angry they felt. They might apologize to their child for their loss of control, because that usually helps the youngster understand and accept the spanking".


The mother of this child clearly should be prosecuted......and clearly needs help. For those of you who call her a MONSTER, or feel that she should be SHOT, I feel sorry for you .......

 

[DaisyDebbie]

I would have to think that there must be something very, very wrong with her to treat her child like that. And as none of us know what life she leads, we cannot sit in judgment of her.

I was appalled as everyone else and I have spanked my children when I've been angry, something I'm trying to never do again. But nothing like that. Obviously the woman needs help

 

[Mickey's sunshine]

For a woman to hit/slap/punch her child that many times - she definately has a problem and deserves to be punished. She needs to be beat a little to see how it feels.


Eros, are you sure you are a doctor? You sound more like a preacher to me.

 

[DaisyDebbie]

You know what Mickey's Sunshine she probably was an abused child herself, so she probably already knows what it feels like. Her parents might have shown it to her at an early age.

Possible?