Anyone have pics of the inside of the kennels?

[luvwinnie]

I need all the info I can get. They have AC, right? Are they just cages or larger "kennel" style enclosures? Do they accept titres instead of vaccines? We don't blindly vaccinate...we make sure our Winnie NEEDS a vaccine before giving it.

Thanks!

 

[ftwildernessguy]

No pics, but we have used them many times. Indoors is air conditioned, stacked kennels 2 high - fiberglass with cage type fronts. There are some larger, all cage type enclosures. There are also outdoor enclosed runs available if your dog is the ourdoors type. Sorry, but proof of vaccination is required. The staff are not vets and cannot determine by titers if dog is okay. The computer is updated annually with the next due date for the vaccine. They will turn you away if you don't have this proof of vaccination. Also, if your pet has never been vaccinated for kennel cough and has never had it, the blood titer will turn up negative. Kennel cough vaccine is required.

 

[luvwinnie]

No pics, but we have used them many times. Indoors is air conditioned, stacked kennels 2 high - fiberglass with cage type fronts. There are some larger, all cage type enclosures. There are also outdoor enclosed runs available if your dog is the ourdoors type. Sorry, but proof of vaccination is required. The staff are not vets and cannot determine by titers if dog is okay. The computer is updated annually with the next due date for the vaccine. They will turn you away if you don't have this proof of vaccination. Also, if your pet has never been vaccinated for kennel cough and has never had it, the blood titer will turn up negative. Kennel cough vaccine is required.

Thanks. I would have to call I guess. Our vet could provide a letter stating she is immune still.

 

[Rhonda]

What are titres?

 

[luvwinnie]

What are titres?

Sorry...it's a blood test to see if the animal still has immunity to a particular disease. Our animals are really being overvaccinated...there is no reason to get the same vaccine over and over if the animal still has immunity to that disease. We pay for the blood work to be done instead of blindly vaccinating. For example, our bulldog had her first distemper vaccine, then her 2nd...she's not over 8 and hasn't needed it again.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

While your approach may make sense, you may be in violation of health laws. Be very careful.

 

[juligrl]

Sorry...it's a blood test to see if the animal still has immunity to a particular disease. Our animals are really being overvaccinated...there is no reason to get the same vaccine over and over if the animal still has immunity to that disease. We pay for the blood work to be done instead of blindly vaccinating. For example, our bulldog had her first distemper vaccine, then her 2nd...she's not over 8 and hasn't needed it again.

How on earth did you manage to find a vet who will run titres? ITA about over-vaccinating, but have yet to find a vet who holds the same philosophy.

My dog stayed at the kennels back in 2001. They're nothing fancy (she's used to staying at a pet resort and spa), but they are clean and the staff were nice.

 

[kmccain]

No pics, but we have used them many times. Indoors is air conditioned, stacked kennels 2 high - fiberglass with cage type fronts. There are some larger, all cage type enclosures. There are also outdoor enclosed runs available if your dog is the ourdoors type. Sorry, but proof of vaccination is required. The staff are not vets and cannot determine by titers if dog is okay. The computer is updated annually with the next due date for the vaccine. They will turn you away if you don't have this proof of vaccination. Also, if your pet has never been vaccinated for kennel cough and has never had it, the blood titer will turn up negative. Kennel cough vaccine is required.

I never heard of a Kennel cough vaccine! I think our dog had it when we got him from the local shelter. The vet gave us some medicine for it when we took him in to be checked. He is due again in a month so I will have to ask them then because he will be with us before the next one!

 

[ftwildernessguy]

Also known as bordatella, it is required by FW and suggested by vets if your pet is going to be kenneled.

For those who don't agree with vaccinations, local health laws wherever I have lived have, without exception, required vaccination, not proof of immunity. You will be assuming quite a liability if your pet is involved in a biting incident and you can't provide proof of vaccination. Last year, the staff at the kennels was VERY upset when a pet was checked in after hours by staff at the outpost with no proof of vaccination. The owners could not provide it, and the pet was removed immediately, not only for the safety of other animals but for the safety of the staff. Another anecdote - several years ago a neighbors pet got loose and bit me on the leg. My first question - has it had its shots? After they answered yes, my next statement was - prove it! Fortunately for them, they could. Saved everybody a lot of heartache. History and medical science supports vaccination as an effective means of controlling disease, and the law requires it for your dog.

 

[kmccain]

Also known as bordatella, it is required by FW and suggested by vets if your pet is going to be kenneled.

For those who don't agree with vaccinations, local health laws wherever I have lived have, without exception, required vaccination, not proof of immunity. You will be assuming quite a liability if your pet is involved in a biting incident and you can't provide proof of vaccination. Last year, the staff at the kennels was VERY upset when a pet was checked in after hours by staff at the outpost with no proof of vaccination. The owners could not provide it, and the pet was removed immediately, not only for the safety of other animals but for the safety of the staff. Another anecdote - several years ago a neighbors pet got loose and bit me on the leg. My first question - has it had its shots? After they answered yes, my next statement was - prove it! Fortunately for them, they could. Saved everybody a lot of heartache. History and medical science supports vaccination as an effective means of controlling disease, and the law requires it for your dog.

Thank You Fortwildernessguy!

I checked my dogs records and his annual shot does not include the bordatella. It is something that I will have to look into. I don't plan on boarding him down there but you never know, better safe than sorry!

I keep my dogs records in the truck so I know I alway have then when we are away!

 

[tim5055]

Actually the medicine given for bordatella is usually given as a nasal spray, not a shot.

While I also agree that we may be over overvaccinating, for me it is a liability issue. While I have discussed titres with my vet, and she is willing to go that route with me, I just can't do it for liability. Should Natasha be involved in a biting issue (as stated above) the first questing is always show me the vaccination records.

Due to overvaccination issues we always have the different vaccines given over a staggered schedule, sometimes months apart. There are too many studys showing that multiple vaccinations given at the same time can cause reactions in the animal, including severe immunity problems. If you have never heard about this, ask your vet when you go for your nex visit. My vet in Maryland was so understanding that they only charged one office visit fee, even though we may visit the office multiple times for the different shots.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

Actually the medicine given for bordatella is usually given as a nasal spray, not a shot.

A vaccine is a vaccine, regardless of the route of administration - innoculation, oral, or nasal.

There is no doubt that multiple vaccinations can potentially cause problems, however the benefits of vaccination far outweigh any potential risks. We enjoy a level of health in the US unparalleled by any other country, due significantly to the US vaccination program. I have done medical humanitarian missions in central/south america and if you want to see the devastation disease can cause, take a trip down sometime and venture away from the resorts. Animals can be vectors for a variety of diseases transmitted to humans, and a lot of suffering could be prevented with a few cents worth of vaccine. We now understand that immunity once thought to be life long is not really that - hence blood titers may give a snapshot of immunity at the moment, but do not guarantee any future immunity. It is often necessary to give the immune system a bump periodically. My credentials: BS in microbiology, with bacteriological research experience, 23 years a doctor in the Army and on staff at a major medical center in south eastern PA.

 

[jima53]

We make sure our dog smokey dakota has her shots each year, and also has a very good examination (various heartwarms/intestinal) as much for her protection besides helping people if there is any question about her records. We have always tried to do things from the standpoint of our dogs best interest. From the first visit to the vet as a puppy the kennel couch was emphasised to us because she would be staying overnight when she was spayed.

Jim

 

[ftwildernessguy]

We make sure our dog smokey dakota has her shots each year, and also has a very good examination (various heartwarms/intestinal) as much for her protection besides helping people if there is any question about her records. We have always tried to do things from the standpoint of our dogs best interest. From the first visit to the vet as a puppy the kennel couch was emphasised to us because she would be staying overnight when she was spayed.

Jim

I thank you and society thanks you for being a responsible pet owner.

 

[Donna]

Actually the medicine given for bordatella is usually given as a nasal spray, not a shot.

While I also agree that we may be over overvaccinating, for me it is a liability issue. While I have discussed titres with my vet, and she is willing to go that route with me, I just can't do it for liability. Should Natasha be involved in a biting issue (as stated above) the first questing is always show me the vaccination records.

Due to overvaccination issues we always have the different vaccines given over a staggered schedule, sometimes months apart. There are too many studys showing that multiple vaccinations given at the same time can cause reactions in the animal, including severe immunity problems. If you have never heard about this, ask your vet when you go for your nex visit. My vet in Maryland was so understanding that they only charged one office visit fee, even though we may visit the office multiple times for the different shots.

Nasal spray is the old method. Having just had this done at my vet, i thought they forgot to do the bordatella spray and they said they no longer do that method, they now do it as a shot and he said this is a new thing. Not that every vet does shot in lieu of nasal, but it is apparently available both ways now.

 

[tim5055]

There is no doubt that multiple vaccinations can potentially cause problems, however the benefits of vaccination far outweigh any potential risks.

I agree that vaccinations shold be given, no argument here. What I am saying is that for the health of the animal, don't jolt their system by giving them multiple shots at one time. I can agree that six (Rabies, Parvovirus, Distemper, Hepatitis, Parainfluenza, Bordetella) different vaccinations being administered at one time can be a shock to the animals system.

I just break them up into multiple visits, thus allowing time between different vaccinations.

 

[perdidobay]

If you scroll down to the bottom of the website page linked below, you can click open the kennel names and there are a few interior photos posted, to give you an idea of how the crates are stacked.

http://www.allearsnet.com/tp/kennels.htm