Anyone ever witness someone stealing something from a theme park store?

My dd was carrying around a stuffed animal in a shop at AK (across from the safari). We exited the store and she followed still carrying it until I noticed and sent her right back in. I'm sure a lot of people get distracted and carry stuff out - I would hope most would return it.
 
I have seen it plenty of times at the Pop Century food court. People get their tray full of food and just walk right out with it. No one ever watching that your stopping to pay.
 
I work as an Loss Prevention Officer for a major retailer.
We have some pretty high tech stuff to watch with but I bet nothing compared to WDW. The reality is, people of all shapes, sizes, genders, nationalities and ages steal..everyday..all day.
Couple of things that are challenging..
1..LP folks have to watch dozens or hundreds of people at any given time. While you are focused on one person, someone else is stealing. It's easy to miss..sometimes easy to catch.;)
2. There are certain, very specific things that we have to see in order to stop someone (legally speaking). So unfortunately, even if someone else sees it, and we don't..it doesn't count.
3. It is my understanding that Disney is VERY discreet in handling theft. I am sure they are very aware of how frequent and inviting theft is in World. BUT.... Just because you think someone got away with stealing, doesn't mean they did.
 
I was in one of the shops in Adventureland. I saw a man quickly wad up a shirt and stuff it into his pants. Within 30 seconds, two "tourists" grabbed him under each arm and proceeded to vanish with him in tow. I was very impressed.

It's so neat to spot the undercover security CMs.

When I worked for TDS, the approved Disney term for shoplifters was 'customer', and not the usual 'guest' moniker. So if you heard anyone mention "There's a customer over there by the plush", you knew exactly what was going on. Pretty much all we were allowed to do was to follow them around and pretty much annoy them into leaving, all while smiling.

Now that's fun info!
 

Haven't actually witnessed anyone stealing at WDW, but have seen children playing with toys, breaking them, then discarding them - all the while mom & dad are right there never saying a word.

Saw two siblings (not small kids) playing with the beaded necklaces, forcing them over their big heads, instead of unclasping them. The beads were flying everywhere! :sad2:
 
I've accidentally shoplifted twice :blush: once in Gatlinburg I picked up something, then needed both hands to look at something else, so I tucked it under my arm. My friend and I spend another 5-10 minutes looking, then left. THREE STORES LATER, we get ice cream and sit on a bench to eat it. Suddenly I noticed it under my arm. I was so mortified that I just walked back into the store, set it down, and walked out.
Similar thing happened at Michaels about 6 months later, I even bought something that time!
Now I avoid sticking anything under my arm if at all possible.:rolleyes1
 
I've accidentally shoplifted twice :blush: once in Gatlinburg I picked up something, then needed both hands to look at something else, so I tucked it under my arm. My friend and I spend another 5-10 minutes looking, then left. THREE STORES LATER, we get ice cream and sit on a bench to eat it. Suddenly I noticed it under my arm. I was so mortified that I just walked back into the store, set it down, and walked out. Similar thing happened at Michaels about 6 months later, I even bought something that time! Now I avoid sticking anything under my arm if at all possible.:rolleyes1
And I was afraid it was just me!! I picked out a purse at TJMaxx and carried it around on my shoulder while I finished shopping. Checked out, then set off the buzzer at the door. Cashier couldn't figure out what was beeping. Took a second cashier to notice that I had a purse on each arm!!! It was pretty embarrassing but pretty funny at the same time!! :)
 
At Disney last, my 18 month old was utterly convinced he could not live life without a Nemo Bucket from the Beach Club gift shop. I kept trying to persuade him toward the smaller, less expensive options. Realizing he wasn't going to win, he grabbed the bucket, sprinted for the cashier, touched his finger to the Mickey Head, and ran out the door. So... he /tried/ to pay...
 
One of the most frustrating periods of my life was when, just after retiring after 27 years as a police officer, I worked a short stint in retail. We were told in training that we were never, ever to chase, confront, tackle or beat shoplifters. We were supposed to "customer service" suspected shoplifters until they gave up and left.

That went against every fiber of my being. I had been previously trained to react and protect the property of others and now I had to just watch it happen and call loss prevention..
 
The store was not that busy. I did not see mom pay for her monorail toy. I asked the CM if she saw the mom walk out with the toy not paying for it & she said she did not see anything. She then proceeded to tell me that it happens on a daily basis & that even if they see someone stealing, that THEY are NOT to confront the guest, that only the undercover security people are allowed to do so!

I was shocked! I also said that I guessed that was why t shirts cost $34.99 because we were ultimately paying for the lost revenue & she shook her head yes…. It is just part of the csot of doing business…..

I spent two years working as a Loss Prevention Investigator for a major department store chain.

It was corporate policy that the ONLY employees who were allowed to stop thieves (whether shoplifters or our own employees -- and yes, employees steal, too) were LP employees. Not even the Store Manager could stop someone, although they were allowed to assist us after a stop if needed for safety reasons (e.g. the shoplifter becomes combative after we stop/arrest them and we need assistance restraining them to stop them from injuring us, others, or themselves).

A non-LP employee trying to stop a customer could actually be grounds for termination.

Our company had very clear policy about what elements we were required to observe before we could stop someone, where we were allowed to stop them, where we were not, and how we went about doing the stop. In our state, by stopping a shoplifter we were actually arresting them.

Many times I "knew" someone had stolen from us, but because I did not have all the elements required to stop them, I had to let them leave the store with the stolen goods and could not intervene. The elements were there to ensure that when we stopped someone we were absolutely certain that that person had stolen our merchandise and they still had it on their person when we stopped them. If one had all the elements, there should be no mistaken stops (and, by extensions, no lawsuits for mistaken stops, no traumatized people, etc etc etc).

Theft occurred every day. Theft that we did not catch and stop happened every day. Shrinkage *is* a cost of doing business and does cause higher prices; that is why companies spend money on LP and similar security programs to try to reduce it.

-SW
 
actually incorrect. as long as the person is still INSIDE the store they can claim they were going to pay for it. once they are outside only security can halt them and demand a receipt.

Yes.

We were only allowed to stop a shoplifter once they had either crossed the line from our store into the mall or exited through the inner exit doors into the exit vestibule.

If they were still inside the store they could always argue they just had not paid for it yet and there is no counter to that, no matter what they have done with the item or where they have put it.

The theft didn't occur until they were permanently depriving us of the merchandise, and to do that they have to leave the store. Any time before that they can change their mind and abandon it or pay for it.

-SW
 
At Disney last, my 18 month old was utterly convinced he could not live life without a Nemo Bucket from the Beach Club gift shop. I kept trying to persuade him toward the smaller, less expensive options. Realizing he wasn't going to win, he grabbed the bucket, sprinted for the cashier, touched his finger to the Mickey Head, and ran out the door. So... he /tried/ to pay...

In his mind I am sure he did pay. You will be laughing about that for years.:rotfl2:
 
When it comes to stopping shop lifters it is such a slippery slope, and people being so sue happy doesn't help matters. I have had job offers to do LP, and I turned them down, not dealing with the headaches, and chance someone might get violent with me. You wouldn't believe the stuff taken off shoplifters. I have never seen shoplifting at disney but in normal stores I have many times. I have walked up to a few managers, and said see the person over there, yeah you might want to watch your security tapes lol.
 
I haven't seen anyone else do it, but unfortunately, my then-4-yr-old once stuck a DVD that I wouldn't buy for him into the bottom of the stroller. He did it just as we were heading out of Studios and we got on the boat to Epcot and I noticed it in the stroller and could not believe what he'd done. When we got to Epcot, I took him to Guest Relations and make him tell the CM what he'd done and that he was sorry. I told the CM which store it should go back to. The CM started to tell him, "oh, it's OK, buddy," and I firmly stepped in with, "no, it's not ok. We don't take things that don't belong to us, do we (name)?" He was pretty mortified, even for a 4-yr-old. Haven't had that problem again.

My then-1 year old did something similar, with a Stitch plush. I noticed it at the bus stop on the way back to the resort, and asked my husband when he got DS the doll. He said he didn't get him anything, and we both though "oh, no." I went to the gift shop at the resort and said my baby took the Stitch from a shop at MK and we didn't know so it was technically shoplifted. The girl told me it was OK and to keep it. DS was too young to teach him a lesson, so we did keep it, but we made darn sure the little guy didn't give himself any other 5-finger discounts.
 
On a larger theft scale, in 2006 while my DD and I were staying at Pop I noticed my camera battery was low on the trek out to the busses so I sent her back to the room for the backup battery. I went out front and sat on a bench while waiting for my DD to return.
After a few moment I noticed a very strange quiet come over the resort. No traffic or people, just me on my bench, another fella about 2 benches to my left, a couple a few benches to my right waiting for the DTD bus and a very large man walking in our direction from the main hall. He stopped directly in front of the lone fella on the bench to my left and pulled out a gun. It was at that moment I was convinced I was going to die at Disney, but what better place to go, right? Then reality kicked in in slow motion. The large man was yelling to "lay down on the ground, hands behind your head". He was now was surrounded by "tourists" who came out of nowhere pulling badges out of their shirts. Some even carrying Disney Parks bags (which later on cracked me up).
Yes, I was "that" tourist who had her camera (low battery and all) pointed discreetly at the action because I realized no one in their right mind would believe this story if I told them.
Then people began filing out of Classic Hall just in time to see dude thrown in the back of a cruiser. They left and it was like nothing had happened. Surreal is still the only word I have to describe the event.
Thank goodness my DD didn't witness what I refer to as The Takedown of '06. We would have been on a plane home that day.

When I returned home I got wind that the reason this lovely individual was arrested in grand fashion at Disney was because he was walking into stores on property, posing as some kind of tech and walking right out of the stores with the cash drawers under his arm all in an effort to keep up his cocaine habit. Whether or not that's the truth I can't say. I never did find anything on the internet after searching.
 
DH and I were in line at Kringla getting School Bread. There was a mom with her son (teenager, probably 15) in front of us. I noticed that after they received their food, they seemed to hang back rather than continue to the cash register because there was a huge gap between them and the end of the line. The mom motioned for us to go around and as we did, the son shoved an entire cloud horn into his mouth and the mom quickly slipped his plate underneath hers. I was in shock! It was almost as if they went in with that intention. I know she didn't pay for it because I lingered at the register to see if she would mention it to the CM. I was furious and wanted so badly to say something, but I held my tongue. The worst part is that it seemed so intentional. That was probably 5 years ago and I can only imagine what that kid is like today.
 
On a larger theft scale, in 2006 while my DD and I were staying at Pop I noticed my camera battery was low on the trek out to the busses so I sent her back to the room for the backup battery. I went out front and sat on a bench while waiting for my DD to return.
After a few moment I noticed a very strange quiet come over the resort. No traffic or people, just me on my bench, another fella about 2 benches to my left, a couple a few benches to my right waiting for the DTD bus and a very large man walking in our direction from the main hall. He stopped directly in front of the lone fella on the bench to my left and pulled out a gun. It was at that moment I was convinced I was going to die at Disney, but what better place to go, right? Then reality kicked in in slow motion. The large man was yelling to "lay down on the ground, hands behind your head". He was now was surrounded by "tourists" who came out of nowhere pulling badges out of their shirts. Some even carrying Disney Parks bags (which later on cracked me up).
Yes, I was "that" tourist who had her camera (low battery and all) pointed discreetly at the action because I realized no one in their right mind would believe this story if I told them.
Then people began filing out of Classic Hall just in time to see dude thrown in the back of a cruiser. They left and it was like nothing had happened. Surreal is still the only word I have to describe the event.
Thank goodness my DD didn't witness what I refer to as The Takedown of '06. We would have been on a plane home that day.

When I returned home I got wind that the reason this lovely individual was arrested in grand fashion at Disney was because he was walking into stores on property, posing as some kind of tech and walking right out of the stores with the cash drawers under his arm all in an effort to keep up his cocaine habit. Whether or not that's the truth I can't say. I never did find anything on the internet after searching.

Ummm..... you said you had photos?
 
One of the most frustrating periods of my life was when, just after retiring after 27 years as a police officer, I worked a short stint in retail. We were told in training that we were never, ever to chase, confront, tackle or beat shoplifters. We were supposed to "customer service" suspected shoplifters until they gave up and left.

That went against every fiber of my being. I had been previously trained to react and protect the property of others and now I had to just watch it happen and call loss prevention..

Is that why no one every offers to help me in a store? I'm just not suspicious looking enough?
 
We were in one of the stores in Adventure Land and my daughter wanted to try something on. A women and her daughter went into the dressing room ahead of us. They came out a short time later with the daughter wearing the clothes that she took in to try on. I don't know what they did with the clothes that she had been wearing - maybe put them into her purse? There were just hangers left in the dressing room when my daughter went in. I told the CM and I know she approached them but then they just left the store and didn't pay for anything. After reading the above comments I am guessing she just asked them if they needed help but couldn't really do anything since she didn't see it.
 














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