Anyone else watch Dr. Phil today?

In defense of Totalia, I thought it was a bit harsh -- the reply about, "just because YOUR mom gave up her dreams... etc" -- if we really think about it... most of us, to some degree base our own life philosophies for our present and future, on our past -- a past which we have been given in large part due to our parents/families.

Regardless of the lesson Totalia's mom was hoping to teach her, it appears the one she has taken most to heart is to live for herself, not for anyone else, including her own children, should she have any someday. Being realistic, should Totalia have kids of her own, she MIGHT change her point of view... then again, it may be stronger than ever that she continue to have a life outside of her kids... for her that might be work... at any rate, that is a path she will have to walk herself and hopefully be happy wherever it takes her in the end.

Even when I was working and DIDN'T have kids... I always strived to have a life outside of work too. For me, it has never been enough to just be "one thing" whether that be "mom," "careerperson," "wife," whatever... I have hobbies, dreams, goals, plans that don't revolve around any one particular label.

With that being said, I would have to admit that I felt I could somewhat identify with Totalia -- about not letting your kids become your WHOLE life -- to the point of stressing your marriage, etc. I also identify with the idea that a parent who works and identifies him/herself with their work SO much, could easily be seen just as their "career" -- just like a SAHM, may be seen just as a "mom."

I hate labeling people. When the papers came home from school asking me to describe my child -- it is hard for me to put labels on them -- or on anyone... we are all so muti-faceted. Just as I would be ajar at being labeled only a "Mom" -- I would be equally disappointed to be labeled only a "Journalist" or "Accountant" or any such title. I am not just these things... I am so much more... and so are all of you! Labels just make it easier for us to classify, stereotype and judge.

I have based a lot of my life decisions on the kind of family I grew up in, and I would be willing to bet that most of us have here -- either by wanting to follow in our parents' footsteps, or to find a better solution for our own family dynamic. Over the years, I have listened to friends and family and learned from their situations... all to form a living environment that works for me.

For me, I have been everything in the "labeling" spectrum. . . From working mother to part time working mom, to SAHM, to taking my kids to work WITH me. Different situations have been the right alternative at different times. I have never read Maria Shriver's book eluded to earlier, but I have always said what was pointed out... maybe, you can have everything... just not at the same time.

For me, I have lots and lots of dreams. Some, I've had to close the door on -- some before I was even married or had kids -- I realized I should no longer pursue some of these dreams -- and part of the maturation process is realizing that you may not always get EVERYTHING you dream for... but if you prioritize you will soon see which dreams are most important... which ones are worth fighting for until your very last breath. I still am living to fulfill many dreams; however, one of my lifelong dreams has been to be a mother... and to be there for and with my children. I have four ages 5, 4, 3 and 2. I am happy to be fulfilling this dream.

Totalia stated it never occured to her to be a mother until after she was first married -- so for her, this isn't considered a lifelong dream come true -- to me, IT IS. I don't expect anyone else to understand this, only to respect it... just as I would respect someone's lifelong dream to give up lots of other things in their life to become, say an Olympic Gymnast.

God made us all as individuals. We are higher up the animal chain for a reason... and we can live and survive successfully in a plethora of living situations, utilizing our lives and talents in endless ways. The only judgment that matters to me in the end is God's. Of course, while I'm here on earth, I DO care what my friends and family think and it would be nice to spread a bit of peace, understanding and respect along the way.

With that being said, I would never stand up in a contest and try to prove my life is better, worse or more "right" than another's. I live in the United States of America and am entitled to my "pursuit of happiness" which is what I intend on doing. I only hold all of you also from the U.S. to the same standard. If you do anything less than that (pursue your own happiness) -- then you are cheating yourself. . . and THAT, my friends, would be wrong.
 
Originally posted by momof2inPA
The other poster was commenting on the lady who, along with her husband, was fortunate enough to be home from work at 4. She isn't saying not to work. In fact, the SAHM's on this thread are saying, go ahead and work, but don't belittle us for choosing not to work.

No one is here is saying working is not ok. Read the whole thread.

I did read the entire thread. The OP stated that she bases her finances on her husband's single income "which is the way it should be." Her husband's income is most likely substantially greater than the average husband's.

You're not getting any argument from me about working vs. not working. I choose to work. And I choose to work only 2 shifts per week, both in the middle of the night so that in effect, I'm a SAHM with a paycheck. I only care about my personal situation, not anyone else's and don't bat an eye if someone stays home forever or works 60 hours a week with their kids in daycare. I was just commenting on how funny it sounded to me for someone to be so adamant on how finances should be based on one income when that's not always possible.
 
All I can say, I love being home with my kids! Love who I am and the choices I made! For me this is the way I want it to be, This is my family and this is what works for us. I don't care if someone else works.Kids are happy, I'm happy and my husband is happy! Even the dog is happy! WE need to be responsible for our own families and our own lives.

So do what works for you and stop worrying about everyone else!

Edited to say The "you" is for anyone no one specific...just general.
 
Originally posted by Jenn Lynn
Assuming a lot aren't we?

My DH does not make 6 figures. Not even close.

Nice try though.

Your husband is severely underpaid then and that's another thing wrong with our country. We pay people tens of millions of dollars to play basketball, but the men and women who save our lives can't even make $100,000 a year to start. (But I think that's for an entirely different thread!)
 

I hate to see dissention among women on this matter. Every one does what is best for them. I know working moms who would love to stay home. Very creative and involved moms. I know stay at home moms who should work. They sit around and do pretty much nothing. My only voice on working moms is that I feel an involved husband is a must. Women cannot be expected to do it all. (If married) I would not want to see me daughter stay at home full time. But I would also do everything on my part to insure her choices. Like babysitting, house cleaning, errand running to make this easier for her. An overworked woman no matter working outside the home or not is not a good parent.
 
Originally posted by Divamomto3
Your husband is severely underpaid then and that's another thing wrong with our country. We pay people tens of millions of dollars to play basketball, but the men and women who save our lives can't even make $100,000 a year to start. (But I think that's for an entirely different thread!)

Well, he's not the saving a life kind of Doctor. LOL! But he did make 6 figures at one time. We decided to leave that job because the work environment was HORRIBLE! It was affecting us as a couple and as a family with a newborn. Constant stress. So now we moved to place where we have a lot less money, but are SO much happier. DH is currently trying to rebuild a practice with another Doctor (Chiropractor). They are doing really well and some day I think they will be making a lot more money, but it takes time. But the peace of mind and and great work environment is worth SO much more than 6 figures. :)

You are right. My comment about "basing your life on your Husbands income" sounded bad. I meant it as people who live way beyond their means and then both people HAVE to work to support themselves. I'm sorry it was offending.

I do realize that some people do not have that choice and are barely getting by with 2 salaries. And some people choose to work because they want that lifestyle AND they love their job. More power to them. :)
 











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