Any Reformed FP- Uber Users Who Have Embraced FP+ ?

[Jennasis]

My anti-FP+? Rope Drop of course...and buy DVC. Go more often, then you won't feel the need to cram everything into each trip like we historically have as we only went every other year. We were super user commandos who had to do it all. Now we are cottoning on to the idea of doing less, slowing down, ditching use of FP+ whenever possible (cause it was a total time suck to set up and a fun suck to use). We're going OLD SCHOOL, and touring like it was before FP.

I HATE fp+ and moreover MDE...but I love WDW more than I hate either of those things.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I see it differently. What I see as has happened is Disney got complacent. They didn't do much to their parks for YEARS. Now, Universal is getting lots of press regarding Potter World and all that jazz while Epcot sits as a shell of its former self, Hollywood Studios is the park with a major identity crisis, and Animal Kingdom is highly regarded as a half-day park due to lack of things to do. So now they are scrambling to try and fix things that should have been done a little at a time over the past 10 years (or more). Yes, they are doing things now, but every park is under construction, many under major construction or about to be under major construction and people don't like it - a problem that could have been avoided.

Amen!

 

[Robo]

Yeah, sorry it ruined your decades old FP- touring strategy...

I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[Mome Rath]

WDW is also spending millions on the parks, in recent years and into the near future with major investments underway in AK and DS. Their timing and priorities may not be the same as Universal, but to suggest that WDW is also not investing in the parks is simply not true. Their investment in MDE and MBs is part of a visitor management approach and maximizing visitor revenue and enhancing overall visitor experience, only time will tell if it was a worthwhile approach. Yes they could be spending more and faster, but unlike Universal the parks division of WD includes many more major parks and the cruise lines.

It makes sense for WDW to implement the MB's and FP+ system prior to the new rides/lands opening up, as you would not want to try to implement something that new after a major addition or refurb. Also, people are looking at the additions of MDE, MB's, and FP+ only through the lens of physical changes, but the new methods of integrating tech are absolutely amazing, and Disney (the company and the parks) will benefit greatly from it. My techie husband who hates all things Disney (and always has) is blown away by Disney's use of the tech and upgrades to its system, so much so that I may actually get him back to a park some day.

From the very beginning my family has always joked about Disney turning humans into cows and sheep and herding them wherever they want them, now they've just figured out how to implement more tech to help out with that. Does it make me more of a sheep to like MDE, MB's and FP+? "Baaaaahhhhh." lol We've experienced Disney since the paper ticket days, and I can say the transition from no Fp's to FP- was no fun for us, we did not like "running" for the FP's though we did tour commando early on in our Disney adventures. Now, being older and calmer, we much prefer FP+.

 

[mom2rtk]

My family rode EE 3X first week of December. Kali was ridden 4x the same day.
Did not try TSMM due to other plans. Could have at least 2x if not for other plans.
Soarin' did not try as we hit the park after 12 noon the first time and not until near 4 the second day.

So I wouldn't say it is out of the question if it is your priority for at least 2x.

3X on EE is pretty cool. But 4 times on Kali in early December would definitely be too cool for my taste. And probably not hard to do that time of year. Even if you hit a warm day, I bet not many people pre-book Kali in December. Just no way to know what the weather will be like 60 days from now.

So you love FP+ but didn't do the hardest to scores ride in 2 of the 4 parks? I'm glad your family is happy with that. Ours would not be.

 

[cmurray234]

I still don't love FP+, but these are some things I found to be true.

1. If you aren't going at the very busiest times and you get there early, plan your first fast passes for mid-morning edging to early afternoon. Unless you are doing 7dmt, the rides won't be busy enough to need them later. (Keep in mind that my children categorically refuse to do meet and greets, so I have no advice whatsoever on the whole Anna/Elsa thing).

2. You may still have FPs for attractions that don't need them. We had a FP for POTC and it was walk-on. I was annoyed by this. When I was there in February, they were still having glitches with the system and the lines for the kiosks were 20 minutes long. I understand that it's much easier now to adjust the time if the time you have booked. So my bit of advice is to not waste your FP if you don't need it at the time you have booked.

3. FP+ at Epcot and DHS plain sucks. Best to accept this ahead of time and get to the park early enough to hop on RnRC so you don't need FP.

 

[estherhead]

For us what has changed is the time it's not good to be in the park. It used to be 12-5:00 was negative for us. Now it seems 3:00-8:00 is bad. Rope drop is still fantastic. Our strategy has been to make our fp+ for 1-4:00. That way we can decide day of whether we'll do rope drop to 5:00 p.m or 1:00pm-park close. Both are equally good imho.

But don't expect to ride much without a fp+ or 1 hour line from 5-8:00 pm on a crowded day. And I'll be honest, spring break 2014 for us was dreadful. And that's from someone who actually really likes fp+. It has kind ruined uber busy times for me, not that I was ever crazy about them.

As for a 4th, we have had lots of success with late night middle wait rides. You are never gonna get Soarin or 7 Dwarves as a 4th fp. But we've gotten 4th, 5th, and even more of things like Pooh, Mermaid, Goofini, Buzz, etc that still had 20-30 minute lines and we were able to get an immediate fp and walk past the lines during the last 3 hours of MK being open.

But fp+ has NOT ruined rope drop. Not by a long shot.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

3X on EE is pretty cool. But 4 times on Kali in early December would definitely be too cool for my taste. And probably not hard to do that time of year. Even if you hit a warm day, I bet not many people pre-book Kali in December. Just no way to know what the weather will be like 60 days from now.

So you love FP+ but didn't do the hardest to scores ride in 2 of the 4 parks? I'm glad your family is happy with that. Ours would not be.

I am not sure exactly what you mean with your false statement you just made. Where did you get the idea as missed anything?

The poster to whom I responded didn't ask that question, nor did you.

I did post a summary of our trip on another thread when asked. Feel free to locate it. No--we could not score mine train. But the family still rode it twice. I know, right?

We did pretty well with our selections less than 48 hours to the start of our vacation. I'm sure that may not work for your family either--but our finances did not permit ticket purchases until that time.

But I'm not sure what have you the impression we "didn't do" hard to score rides. I was the only member of my party shut out due to pregnancy. My youngest was limited due to height. Neither of which can be attributed, in any way, to FP+.

And no, cannot predict weather 60 days from now. But I am not sure what relevance that has to my experience or to the question of the poster who will be traveling in May.

 

[mom2rtk]

I am not sure exactly what you mean with your false statement you just made. Where did you get the idea as missed anything?

The poster to whom I responded didn't ask that question, nor did you.

I did post a summary of our trip on another thread when asked. Feel free to locate it. No--we could not score mine train. But the family still rode it twice. I know, right?

We did pretty well with our selections less than 48 hours to the start of our vacation. I'm sure that may not work for your family either--but our finances did not permit ticket purchases until that time.

But I'm not sure what have you the impression we "didn't do" hard to score rides. I was the only member of my party shut out due to pregnancy. My youngest was limited due to height. Neither of which can be attributed, in any way, to FP+.

And no, cannot predict weather 60 days from now. But I am not sure what relevance that has to my experience or to the question of the poster who will be traveling in May.

You might want to re-read my post.

I didn't say you didn't do any "hard to score rides." I only said you didn't do the "hard to score" rides in 2 of the parks...... the 2 parks that are the greatest issue for many guests with FP+ because of the tiering. So while you are happy with the experience, someone who wanted to do those rides and couldn't because of the tiering, they would understandably have a less satisfying experience.

And you held your experience of riding KRR 4 times out as being relevant to a discussion of being able to ride headliners multiple times under FP+. I'm just saying KRR is generally not in high demand in December. And even if it was in high demand on a particular warm day in December, FP availability would be abundant because people are less likely to schedule in advance for December. That will likely be a non issue in May, so your experience has little relevance to someone wanting to schedule in May.

 

[Angel Ariel]

My family rode EE 3X first week of December. Kali was ridden 4x the same day.
Did not try TSMM due to other plans. Could have at least 2x if not for other plans.
Soarin' did not try as we hit the park after 12 noon the first time and not until near 4 the second day.

So I wouldn't say it is out of the question if it is your priority for at least 2x.

But I'm not sure what have you the impression we "didn't do" hard to score rides.

I don't think mom2rtk was intentionally saying anything false.

Without having read your trip summary the two bolded phrases above very easily make it sound like you didn't try to ride TSMM and Soarin'.

The "did not try" could also be referring to not trying to ride TSMM/Soarin' multiple times, though you did ride each once.

If one has only read the above quoted response, it is not clear which of these is the case, and it could easily be read either way.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

You might want to re-read my post.

I didn't say you didn't do any "hard to score rides." I only said you didn't do the "hard to score" rides in 2 of the parks...... the 2 parks that are the greatest issue for many guests with FP+ because of the tiering. So while you are happy with the experience, someone who wanted to do those rides and couldn't because of the tiering, they would understandably have a less satisfying experience.

And you held your experience of riding KRR 4 times out as being relevant to a discussion of being able to ride headliners multiple times under FP+. I'm just saying KRR is generally not in high demand in December. And even if it was in high demand on a particular warm day in December, FP availability would be abundant because people are less likely to schedule in advance for December. That will likely be a non issue in May, so your experience has little relevance to someone wanting to schedule in May.

I am aware you said 2 of 4 parks. I am also aware that you remain incorrect.

Your quote was:
"You love FP+, but DIDN'T DO...."

Um, yes ma'am we did. In all 4 parks. Every single hard to score ride--ridden. Soarin', TSMM, and Mine train--twice.

It sounds like you are of the belief that a ride cannot be ridden without a FP+. It sounds like you cannot be convinced. So our conversation thus concludes.

If you have something of relevance to the person I quoted, feel free to respond directly to them.

 

[mom2rtk]

I don't think mom2rtk was intentionally saying anything false.

Without having read your trip summary the two bolded phrases above very easily make it sound like you didn't try to ride TSMM and Soarin'.

The "did not try" could also be referring to not trying to ride TSMM/Soarin' multiple times, though you did ride each once.

If one has only read the above quoted response, it is not clear which of these is the case, and it could easily be read either way.

I am aware you said 2 of 4 parks. I am also aware that you remain incorrect.

Your quote was:
"You love FP+, but DIDN'T DO...."

Um, yes ma'am we did. In all 4 parks. Every single hard to score ride--ridden. Soarin', TSMM, and Mine train--twice.

It sounds like you are of the belief that a ride cannot be ridden without a FP+. It sounds like you cannot be convinced. So our conversation thus concludes.

If you have something of relevance to the person I quoted, feel free to respond directly to them.

See Angel Ariel's response above. That's exactly how I read that. I didn't do a search of all your posts before answering what you posted on this thread. No way to tell from what you posted here that you did in fact ride them once.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't think mom2rtk was intentionally saying anything false.

Without having read your trip summary the two bolded phrases above very easily make it sound like you didn't try to ride TSMM and Soarin'.

The "did not try" could also be referring to not trying to ride TSMM/Soarin' multiple times, though you did ride each once.

If one has only read the above quoted response, it is not clear which of these is the case, and it could easily be read either way.

She is.

Why, I don't know.

But claiming someone didn't a ride is just laughable. Claiming that they read the post wrong yet still insist exactly what that poster read is laughable.


Though--you are correct, it does make it seem like we didn't ride the rides at all in my original response where I was responding to riding a ride MULTIPLE times. We did not try to ride MULTIPLE times.

One can ask for clarification or one can make a leap. I asked what gave her the impression we missed anything and stated we didn't. I did correct her and that evidently was not enough and here we are.

Again--only my pregnancy or my 4yo's height resulted in "not doing" certain rides.

 

[mom2rtk]

She is.

Why, I don't know.

LOL on your need to insist that's the case.

Plenty of people claim to love FP+ but then say they really aren't into headliners. I thought maybe your family just didn't like those rides or something. Or didn't like TSMM enough to wait for it or invest a FP+ in it, and didn't get to Epcot in time to get a FP after using your spot at TT or something.

And do you really expect people to know you well enough, or to search out your posts on another thread before replying?

My apologies for not reading between the lines and relying solely on what you posted here.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

LOL on your need to insist that's the case.

Plenty of people claim to love FP+ but then say they really aren't into headliners. I thought maybe your family just didn't like those rides or something. Or didn't like TSMM enough to wait for it or invest a FP+ in it, and didn't get to Epcot in time to get a FP after using your spot at TT or something.

And do you really expect people to know you well enough, or to search out your posts on another thread before replying?

My apologies for not reading between the lines and relying solely on what you posted here.

Do I expect anyone to know me well enough?
No.

What I do expect is that you not make assumptions of someone you don't seem to know well as you admit to have done here and then draw the false correlation that FP+ is enjoyed only because of those assumptions.

 

[Angel Ariel]

But claiming someone didn't a ride is just laughable. Claiming that they read the post wrong yet still insist exactly what that poster read is laughable.

To be fair here, the first post *in this thread* where you stated you did in fact ride TSMM and Soarin' once each was post #71.

Mom2trk referred to my post in saying that's how she'd read it in post #72.

The post that, as far as I can tell, you're referring to with mom2trk still insisting you hadn't ridden them was post #69 -before your clarification, not after.

I truly think this was just a miscommunication/misunderstanding, and not intentional (on either of your parts).

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

To be fair here, the first post *in this thread* where you stated you did in fact ride TSMM and Soarin' once each was post #71.

Mom2trk referred to my post in saying that's how she'd read it in post #72.

The post that, as far as I can tell, you're referring to with mom2trk still insisting you hadn't ridden them was post #69 -before your clarification, not after.

I truly think this was just a miscommunication/misunderstanding, and not intentional (on either of your parts).

Fair enough. I still think that in context for the person who was asking about multiple rides was more than adequate, but I will be sure that my responses are crystal clear on the future.

 

[SmithSmith]

Fair enough. I still think that in context for the person who was asking about multiple rides was more than adequate, but I will be sure that my responses are crystal clear on the future.

I agree with you. The whole theme of your post in question has to do with "multiple rides". FWIW, you made perfect sense to me.

 

[Robo]

Every post in this thread after 3:50pm Eastern... just POOFED!

I suddenly feel a half-hour YOUNGER!

 

[SmithSmith]

Every post after 3:50pm Eastern... just POOFED!

I think this went over my head. Care to explain?