EUROPACL
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Dec 30, 2005
I've been on this board for over a year now so I'm not sure that I can be called a "New Fern". I've been visiting Disney World/Disneyland since I was 5 and I am now 29 years old. I have read a lot of articles/books/threads about Disney, but I do not claim to be an all knowing Disney expert.
I tend to disagree a lot with AV, YoHo, and Euro. Some of our conversations have been a little snarky, but I do not think poorly of them. They all seem to be intelligent people that know a lot about Disney.
You're not a Fern.
I have agreed with some of thier points. They have brought up several good issues and Disney can (of course) be a better company. I will not deny that Disney sometimes makes decisions for the bottom line that are not in the best interest of the consumer.
Kind of still missing the point...we want the old Disney back...will we get it? I doubt it.
Gee if we worked for Universal you would think we would point out how great Universal is and does things so much better than Disney....pssst They don't Universal is in a worse place as far as the parks go than Disney is right now. NBC has even less intrest in putting money into the parks than Disney does.However, (and I mean no offense) you guys focus almost entirely on the negative. I have seen post after post of nothing but criticism. I see your name and I know that you will have something negative to say. Honestly I don't think it matters what Disney does, in your minds it will be negative. I have seen several posts where you guys exaggerate the issue (Sometimes jokingly/ sometimes not) to make it sound worse. Some of you have accused several others on these boards as working for Disney, when sometimes I wonder if some of you work for Universal.
Back to the topic;
Honestly I do not think that the value resorts are a bad deal.
Trying to talk over the Internet is hard sometimes as my real point does not come across clearly. The "Value Resorts" might be close to just above the same type of room found off site. (For a Family of 6 was really the issue at first...and I still think a 2-bedroom condo at the back gate is a better value) Some people see the "value" in staying on site...I still do it. Mine (and others) issue with the "value" resorts are that they just lowered the bar. Disney could have and has done better. Just Like DCA lowered the bar. MGM/AK opening half finshed lowered the bar. Hong Kong Disney lowered the bar. Disney Pictures have been lowering the bar for years turning out flop after flop and dumbed down picture one after another. Sure everyonce in a while we get a POTC. You've got to wonder how many Country Bear, Haunted Mansion, Bambi II movies people will sit through before that Disney name no longer brings them into the theater anymore.
Sorry if you don't think we are postive enough about Disney right now...but we don't see a lot to be postive about. Be honest with yourself do you really see Disney putting the capital investment back into the parks that they need right now? What do you think is going to happen once that DVC well has run dry and Hotels start needing to be updated? Is the direct to dvd of UnderDog II going to pay for that? Disney views the parks as a cash cow for Movies and TV not the other way around. Eisner tried several times to sell off the parks to pay for more bad movies,TV networks and Power Ranger Cartoons. Who exactly at Disney now would you say is going to ride to the rescue and save the parks from circling the drain?