Any new family hotels?

[raidermatt]

And you have an issue with Disney providing affordable rooms for those on a tighter budget?

My issue is with the way in which they have provided them.

Anyone know of any Disney plans for reasonably priced hotels for families of 6? We cannot afford the Disney Vacation resorts or the high-end resorts so we are forced to stay off-site. Is this anything Disney will look into in the future? It seems this is a place they are losing money to the outside resorts (which are growing quickly).

There is a rumor that the remainder of Pop Century will be built as suites, but it is just a rumor. Also, if the AS suites aren't working for you, then its a good bet these won't either, if they are actually built.

There is also the Western Beltway project. Its going to be on Disney owned property, but outside the actual WDW gate. There will supposedly be 4000-5000 third party budget rooms there, so I would imagine some will be for families of more than 4. Its not clear what, if any, on-site perks this area will have however. I'm guessing little to none, but that is just a guess.

Not my idea of a good use of the land by Disney, but it will have budget priced rooms.

 

[shanomi4]

We do not like the Disney resorts for the money.
We found them to be over priced for what we got.

 

[darlak]

I've stayed both onsite and offsite. Both have their benefits. It's each individual's right to choose which of those benefits means the most to them; better value vs. more Disney amenities, etc. We're all fortunate to have so many choices in and near WDW. If you want to stay onsite, then do. If you want to stay offsite, then do that. I am curious though, about why some of you seem to be so harsh with those who don't share your opinion. In a world where we all have to choose our battles, is this one really worth it?

 

[MasterShake]

Ok, I've been taking notes so I want to make sure that I have everything.

Disney Transportation: Bad - Cause people are smelly
Disney Value Resort: Bad - Cause they charge too much
Oversized Decorations: Bad - Unk Reason
Lobbies/Gift Shops: Bad - Because we don't care what they look like
Extra Magic Hours: Bad - Because they say its 1-3 hours, but they lie and close early.
Chicken Nuggets: Bad - Unoriginal and too plentiful
Abandoned Buildings: Bad - They should put these building to use, it can't be a Gift Shop (see above), counter service (no nuggets), or pirate theme (played out).
Disney movies: Bad - Cause most of them are cheap and stupid.
Plush Toys: Bad - Signifies corporate greed.
Rides (post 1997): Bad - None are original or fun (Except Indy)
ABC: Bad - Cause Disney owns it.
Higher Net income: Bad - Because it signifies the end of Disney is coming
Liking Disney: Bad - Because that makes you a dumb consumer that doesn't realize that they are getting ripped off. Oh, sure you think you are happy, but you’re wrong.

I read an article in the paper the other day where it stated that Disney was offering toys to ill children at some local hospital. At first I thought it was a nice gesture, but I'm sure they had a sinister motive for this action as well.

 

[mrsR123]

Ok, I've been taking notes so I want to make sure that I have everything.

Disney Transportation: Bad - Cause people are smelly
Disney Value Resort: Bad - Cause they charge too much
Oversized Decorations: Bad - Unk Reason
Lobbies/Gift Shops: Bad - Because we don't care what they look like
Extra Magic Hours: Bad - Because they say its 1-3 hours, but they lie and close early.
Chicken Nuggets: Bad - Unoriginal and too plentiful
Abandoned Buildings: Bad - They should put these building to use, it can't be a Gift Shop (see above), counter service (no nuggets), or pirate theme (played out).
Disney movies: Bad - Cause most of them are cheap and stupid.
Plush Toys: Bad - Signifies corporate greed.
Rides (post 1997): Bad - None are original or fun (Except Indy)
ABC: Bad - Cause Disney owns it.
Higher Net income: Bad - Because it signifies the end of Disney is coming
Liking Disney: Bad - Because that makes you a dumb consumer that doesn't realize that they are getting ripped off. Oh, sure you think you are happy, but you’re wrong.

I read an article in the paper the other day where it stated that Disney was offering toys to ill children at some local hospital. At first I thought it was a nice gesture, but I'm sure they had a sinister motive for this action as well.

Doing less than they are capable of= bad
Just sliding by and convincing the consumers that they ought to be grateful= bad
Making decisions solely on the monetary consequence because "it's a business afterall"= heinous

being overly snarky....

 

[MasterShake]

Doing less than they are capable of= bad
Just sliding by and convincing the consumers that they ought to be grateful= bad
Making decisions solely on the monetary consequence because "it's a business afterall"= heinous

being overly snarky....

Yes, we wouldn't want anyone on this board getting to snarky.

 

[iamalittlegoofy]

Doing less than they are capable of= bad

So when does Disney have to abide by your principles. They are a business. They put out a product. You dont like it, dont go. Those who do will. The consumer decides if a product is successful. If there are more people like you, and the business declines, it is up to Disney to fix it or regain your interest. As long as there are people who enjoy the product, and attendance increases, Disney is doing fine. (as a business)

Just sliding by and convincing the consumers that they ought to be grateful= bad

I guess the average consumer is not smart enough to know if they like it or not.

Making decisions solely on the monetary consequence because "it's a business afterall"= heinous

Heinous. Jump back to reality. All successful businesses are about the bottom line.

 

[iamalittlegoofy]

Not forced...but tricked..goated..and pushed down from somethnig that would not have been done in the past.



Based on what you've said I don't think so in this case.




Yeah I've covered this...it really does come down to what that is worth to you. Outside of that "Disney feeling" you know you can get a much better Hotel room...not Motel for a cheaper price with those same perks of Extra Magical Minutes and crowded buses. But if a Giant Yo-Yo is what scream Disney for you and you willing to pay 60.00 bucks a night for it...then go for it.

I wonder how Disney being a Biz and all was able to operate all of those years giving better value and service at better Hotels (not motels) though?

I am a mod and delux man myself. But I have and would again stay in a value if need be.

 

[YoHo]

Personally, I only stay at resorts built by imagineers, not Accountineers, but that's being snarky.


Also, is there a good reason why every 6 months, we get a new set of DISers who apparently haven't read this board before and insist on making the same tired excuses?

FYI, Disney is not "Just a business" If Disney were "Just a business" then it would never have had the cultural relevance it has.

 

[iamalittlegoofy]

Also, is there a good reason why every 6 months, we get a new set of DISers who apparently haven't read this board before and insist on making the same tired excuses?

Been coming to these boards off on for years. But I can see that you are sooooo Disney savy that I'll cow down to your FACTUAL representation of all things Disney. If only Disney would read these boards and have all their issues settled by the EXPERTS.

FYI, Disney is not "Just a business" If Disney were "Just a business" then it would never have had the cultural relevance it has.

To you. Apparently not to those who count. Oh, I forgot, you are the only one that counts.

 

[mrsR123]

So when does Disney have to abide by your principles. They are a business. They put out a product. You dont like it, dont go. Those who do will. The consumer decides if a product is successful. If there are more people like you, and the business declines, it is up to Disney to fix it or regain your interest. As long as there are people who enjoy the product, and attendance increases, Disney is doing fine. (as a business)



I guess the average consumer is not smart enough to know if they like it or not.





Heinous. Jump back to reality. All successful businesses are about the bottom line.

I'm not saying not smart enough-- just ignorant as to what came before and what they should be able to experience. There's a difference.


As for the bottom line;Real Disney used to be different.

 

[mrsR123]

Also, is there a good reason why every 6 months, we get a new set of DISers who apparently haven't read this board before and insist on making the same tired excuses?

Amen.

 

[MasterShake]

SNARKY

 

[raidermatt]

Been coming to these boards off on for years. But I can see that you are sooooo Disney savy that I'll cow down to your FACTUAL representation of all things Disney. If only Disney would read these boards and have all their issues settled by the EXPERTS.



To you. Apparently not to those who count. Oh, I forgot, you are the only one that counts.

You know, there are different styles around here. Yes, some are more "snarky"(that's a new one), some use large amounts hyperbole, etc. But just about every regular on this board, regardless of what side of the fence they are on, offers up valid discussion points.

Yet time and time again, the people who complain the most about styles insist on replying only to those whose styles annoy them most. And of course, they usually do it in the same exact style they were complaining about.

Take what you will from that. Just an observation.

 

[EUROPACL]

Been coming to these boards off on for years. But I can see that you are sooooo Disney savy that I'll cow down to your FACTUAL representation of all things Disney. If only Disney would read these boards and have all their issues settled by the EXPERTS.

...would it shock you to find out that Disney pays people to troll boards like these and argue with people who say not so nice things and then praise Disney for every decisions they make?

 

[YoHo]

Probably doesn't have a green thumb. His Ficus died.

 

[darlak]

...would it shock you to find out that Disney pays people to troll boards like these and argue with people who say not so nice things and then praise Disney for every decisions they make?

It wouldn't shock me. Do you gave any factual basis for this statement?

 

[YoHo]

There's a thread on it w/ news article link from a month or 2 ago. Plus rumors.

 

[EUROPACL]

There's a thread on it w/ news article link from a month or 2 ago. Plus rumors.

...Plus I work for a large Software company (80% of the Fortune 500 companies use our software...not Disney they went with the other guys and some in-house development) it is common pratice in the industry.


Edit...I should say worked really. Due to a couple of failing kidneys and a shot pancreas I''ve had to give up that job.

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

Personally, I only stay at resorts built by imagineers, not Accountineers, but that's being snarky.


Also, is there a good reason why every 6 months, we get a new set of DISers who apparently haven't read this board before and insist on making the same tired excuses?

FYI, Disney is not "Just a business" If Disney were "Just a business" then it would never have had the cultural relevance it has.

IMO every hotel, shop, fortune 500 & Disney are just businesses.....if you collect money for your goods & services you are a business.
All of the changes in recent years so how truly business oriented they are...