Any Disney Homeschoolers?

[sha_lyn]

another thanks Bwalker ... it's good to hear/read about sucessful HS'ers.

Here's a few more fav sites



Math/Science Nucleus
Teach-nology


Just got this in an e mail... thought it was cute

Homeschool Kids Don't Get the Chance To...

? Be told to sit down and shut up 7 hours a day or more.

? Be told your class doesn't get to use the slide till Friday; go back
to the Monkey Bars.

? Hide their poor grades for three months at a time.

? To beg to be allowed to go to the rest room..

? Be ridiculed for buying clothes at Wal-mart.

? Be punished along with 29 others for something only one child did.

? Keep up with the most recent versions of History.

? Eat food of a lower quality then state prisoners.

? To get socially promoted to the next grade even if they didn't
understand the last grade.

? To learn that a noun is a person, place or thing twelve years in a
row.

? Be made fun of for keeping their virginity.

? Have the water that they are allowed to drink after recess severely
limited.

? To be told that their parents morals are stupid by a teacher they are
supposed to respect..

? To wait for a school bus under a tall tree in a thunder storm.

? To wear a uniform, name tag, walk through metal detectors, be
surrounded by police officers, have their possessions
searched and basically be treated like a common criminal 7 or more hours a
day.

? To miss out on a scholarship because their grades were not as high as
the homeschooler down the street.

 

[KathyTX]

Um, neither does my PSer.

Not a single one of those quips would apply to our school.

Not all PSs are horrible, dangerous, evil, and inept.

 

[rae519]

"Eat food of a lower quality than state prisoners"

This was so TRUE! DH has had the opportunity to have both because of his job and made that comment to me two years ago!!!

INCREDIBLE!

And the rest of that posting was pretty on target also! Could cite examples but I know that we all have them and they are pretty much the same!!!


Leaving for the Magic now! Hope this thread is alive and kicking by the time I get back!!!

Rae

 

[Karel]

>>>Just got this in an e mail... thought it was cute
quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Homeschool Kids Don't Get the Chance To...
? Be told to sit down and shut up 7 hours a day or more.
? Be told your class doesn't get to use the slide till Friday; go back
to the Monkey Bars.
? Hide their poor grades for three months at a time.
? To beg to be allowed to go to the rest room..
? Be ridiculed for buying clothes at Wal-mart.
? Be punished along with 29 others for something only one child did.
?
? To be told that their parents morals are stupid by a teacher they are
supposed to respect..

>>Snip<<

OK, I know this whole post is suppose to be about hS exchanging ideas and that I shouldn't be reading every post as a negative comment about public schools. But I don' t find this cute. It is a sweeping generalization. I don't want this post to spiral into a debate anymore than anyone else here so that's all I'm going to say (but trust me, I've got a lot more words circling...).

 

[sha_lyn]

OK, I know this whole post is suppose to be about hS exchanging ideas and that I shouldn't be reading every post as a negative comment about public schools. But I don' t find this cute. It is a sweeping generalization. I don't want this post to spiral into a debate anymore than anyone else here so that's all I'm going to say (but trust me, I've got a lot more words circling...).

Hummmm. opened a post asking for Dis homeschoolers, makes little jabs but claims not to want to start a debate ... Yep ... hummm ....

Not that you even care to know which applies to our local PS but here it goes

Be told to sit down and shut up 7 hours a day or more.



? To beg to be allowed to go to the rest room..

? Be ridiculed for buying clothes at Wal-mart.

? Be punished along with 29 others for something only one child did.

? Keep up with the most recent versions of History.

? Eat food of a lower quality then state prisoners.


? Have the water that they are allowed to drink after recess severely
limited.

? To be told that their parents morals are stupid by a teacher they are
supposed to respect..

? To wait for a school bus under a tall tree in a thunder storm.

.... have their possessions searched and basically be treated like a common criminal 7 or more hours a day.

?

? To wear a uniform, name tag,

They tried ot pass uniforms in the PS and enough parents complained so it did not pass

Be told your class doesn't get to use the slide till Friday; go back

Even worse ... told it isn't your day for the play ground so run around in this little muddy area between the gym and all the trailer classrooms.

 

[Steve H.]

What's with the ??

You thought the e-mail was cute, others thought it wasn't. Not sure where the "little jabs" portion comes in?? The e-mail you posted is just as much filled with generalizations than the types of comments HS advocates hate.

 

[poober25]

But, this is a thread for homeschoolers. I would not wander into a PS thread on this or any other board and try to tell the people in that thread that they are wrong or for the choices they make or take offense at things that were said. Actually, I probably wouldn't read it, but I would know in advance that I wouldn't agree with most of the info on the thread.

People who have chosen to home school have done so for a variety of reasons, and for a great many of us, part of those reasons are that our public school systems are awful in one respect or another and maybe more. For those of you that do have wonderful PS out there, that's great! I'm really happy for you, but realize you are in the minority.

I'm getting a lot of good info from this thread and don't want to see it go away. Vent over. Thanks.

 

[tmli]

I've been considering hs'ing for a number of months for my ds(7) who is going into gr.2. As some of you may know from my other posts he is adhd with a couple other conditions thrown in the mix. I started to think about it last Feb. when he had to be off school for 7weeks for a medical reason. During that time we did all his class lessons at home and I found other tools to help him learn the lesson. Prior to this I was told he may be held back a year because he couldn't read. When he returned to school he had to be tested on what we learned for report card--well his teacher was shocked. He could read at a level higher than the other kids and all his grades that term improved drastically over the previous one. Do I think this is because I'm smarter than the teacher--nope, she was great. I just believe my ds needs to be taught in a way that is different than the school has time to teach. I've spoken to the principal about pulling him out. Turns out while my ds was out of school they applied for extra help for him to get a more personalized program in place to help him. I've agreed to try it out at the beginning of the school year, and the principal has offered to give me all the help he can if it doesn't work out and I decide to HS.

The problem I have is in doing research and speaking to people thru online boards and e-mail, info groups etc. I've only been able to find 2 types of homeschoolers--those doing it for religious reasons or those doing it because they are anti-school/organization etc. Is there a 3rd group out there? I am considering hs'ing because that is the best way for my ds to get an education. He just can't learn like most others. We have a wonderful school, his teacher was great, our principal is incredible and the sense of community and belonging in this environment is sensational. We are lucky in that respect--but the fact remains if my son cannot be successful in that environment I need to get him out. Others out there looking at hs'ing for the same reasons?

 

[debster812]

I for one, am a future public school parent (1st grade in Sept) and am reading this thread for 2 reasons:

1.) It's on a PUBLIC Internet BB that I tend to frequent

2.) I am the daughter of an educator, who I happen to think did a GREAT job in her teaching job in our home, and outside it as well. I see a lot of similarities to what we did with Mom at home, as some of the Homeschoolers do.

That being said, Sha_Lyn, you just posted something SO incredibly insulting, and such a huge sweeping generalization of Public Schools, the same type of thing, that if someone posted the opposite view point of, I suspect you would be up in arms about it.

I am sure there are horrible public schools. I know for a fact there are GREAT ones. Just as there are horrible and great private schools, parochial schools, non-traditional schools, and homeschooling parents/groups.

Sorry, ranting off again.

Debbie

 

[peg2001]

Can anyone share with me the costs typically associated with home schooling? I know there are many different types of curriculums available and many even develop their own curriculum. But, ballpark, what's the outlay?

Peggy

 

[rae519]

The cost for the program I am using this year (Seton Catholic Home School) was $479.00.

Going for my 7 night cruise now!

Rae

 

[crazymomof4]

Originally posted by peg2001
Can anyone share with me the costs typically associated with home schooling? I know there are many different types of curriculums available and many even develop their own curriculum. But, ballpark, what's the outlay?

Peggy

Here's my experience: I just finished a 7/8 gr. combo year with Pearblossom Private School, it was $750 all inclusive. Not bad considering you get 2 years worth.
I looked around quite a bit before I chose this program and here is what I found:
Clon Lara (unschooling) About $550/yr and you have to get your own texts, etc.
Calvert $588/yr complete
Heritage $640
Homeschool Academy $495

This is the "ballpark" but for sure not all that is available. Some online courses can reach near $1000.

Many choose not to purchase a curriculum at all. I found a thread on a HS forum that addresses this. Here it is:
http://forums.abcteach.net/read.php?f=4&i=9617&t=9617

 

[Karel]

Originally posted by tmli
. Do I think this is because I'm smarter than the teacher--nope, she was great. I just believe my ds needs to be taught in a way that is different than the school has time to teach. I've spoken to the principal about pulling him out. Turns out while my ds was out of school they applied for extra help for him to get a more personalized program in place to help him. I've agreed to try it out at the beginning of the school year, and the principal has offered to give me all the help he can if it doesn't work out and I decide to HS. Is there a 3rd group out there? I am considering hs'ing because that is the best way for my ds to get an education. He just can't learn like most others. my son cannot be successful in that environment I need to get him out. Others out there looking at hs'ing for the same reasons?

Looks like you need to start a new post! I don't know what special ed laws are like in Canada but it sounds like he would be better off in a self contained classroom with a special ed teacher. You might try this route first and then opt for HS if that doesn't work.

 

[Karel]

Originally posted by poober25
But, this is a thread for homeschoolers. I would not wander into a PS thread on this or any other board and try to tell the people in that thread that they are wrong or for the choices they make or take offense at things that were said. Actually, I probably wouldn't read it, but I would know in advance that I wouldn't agree with most of the info on the thread.

I have not told anyone here that their choice is wrong. I'm not sure what jabs I've made. I've found the thread interesting and like reading other people's point of view. The question I have to ask about the list about What Homeschoolers don't get to do: is this really how you view public schools? It makes me sad. I'll leave now and let you do your idea sharing. I thought this was an open board for anybody to conduct conversations. My fault.

 

[gemmie214]

I have found this thread very interesting. As an educator, I am interested in all types of education not just the "traditional" type. What I am saddened to see is the thinly veiled contempt that some on this thread seem to have towards PS kids and their parents. If a PS parent posted these "jokes" about homeschooled children I am sure you would find it offensive, as would I. I find it offensive to ridicule children or parents choices for their children no matter what the side.


OK, I am off my soapbox and will continue to enjoy the posts that are upbeat, informative and positive...thanks for the info.

 

[jrmasm]

Wow!

What I am saddened to see is the thinly veiled contempt that some on this thread seem to have towards PS kids and their parents.

I really thought that I was the only one who felt this way. Thanks for having the courage to speak up!

 

[disneyjunkie]

Originally posted by gemmie214
I have found this thread very interesting. As an educator, I am interested in all types of education not just the "traditional" type. What I am saddened to see is the thinly veiled contempt that some on this thread seem to have towards PS kids and their parents. If a PS parent posted these "jokes" about homeschooled children I am sure you would find it offensive, as would I. I find it offensive to ridicule children or parents choices for their children no matter what the side.


OK, I am off my soapbox and will continue to enjoy the posts that are upbeat, informative and positive...thanks for the info.

ITA

If a PS parent posted something that insulting about HS, I'm sure
the parents that homeschool would be angry.

Sha_lyn many of the things that were in your list can also occur with HS children.

So you can't use the slide each day, big deal. What a great time to teach kids about sharing and taking turns.

Who ever said students MUST eat the lunch served at school. Are kids not allowed to take their lunch to school?

I guess kids that are HS NEVER tease other children.


I think most of the post here can be very helpful to all parents regardless of how their kids are educated.

 

[meandtheguys]

If you are interested in the ideas often used in homeschooling but it isn't right for you, you might be interested in the book Guerilla Learning by Grace LLewellyn and Amy Silver. It is not a HS book per se, but discusses ways to implement and prioritize your child's education. I can't find my copy right now, but I remember it being interesting and slightly radical suggesting that it wasn't always necessary to complete an excess of homework if that was not in your child's best interest, etc.

As far as the debate goes, however, people often see truth and humor in information they agree with, i.e. the list. I understand the offence taken, however, because I feel the same way about "Men Jokes." You know, the degrading ones. As a mother of three DS's I am very offended when I hear men put down as a group, made to look stupid or inept. I think we all have some area or group that is, in our mind, okay to laugh at. Highly unpolitically correct!

I would like to continue to read about others HS experiences, because this is the only BB I visit! I have a fondness for the Disney Crazy folks on this board, and would like to see this thread continue.

Michelle

 

[CJMickeyMouse]

Many of the examples in Sha_lyn's post apply to our PS, but we continue to work with them.... cooperating to provide what our children need. Do we homeschool? Yes. Do the children attend PS? Yes.

I don't find the generalizations offensive on either side of the fence... because I realize there are good and bad things about both.... it all depends on where you are standing.

We all do what we feel is best for our kids.... in OUR SITUATION... with OUR CIRCUMSTANCES.

I know homeschoolers that I would not let near my children, and teachers that shouldn't be teaching. I also know homeschoolers that have done wonders with their family and their kids, and our very best friends are both teachers in a PS on the other side of the state.

I guess I think we all should be able to chuckle at the generalizations that hit home with us... much like a blonde would at blonde jokes.

There are waaaaayyyy too many variables to get uptight when someone makes a comment about homeschooling and/or public schools.

The ideas in this thread can be an asset to ALL students and I hope it's left open.

 

[crazymomof4]

Originally posted by tmli
I've spoken to the principal about pulling him out. Turns out while my ds was out of school they applied for extra help for him to get a more personalized program in place to help him. I've agreed to try it out at the beginning of the school year, and the principal has offered to give me all the help he can if it doesn't work out and I decide to HS........... We have a wonderful school, his teacher was great, our principal is incredible and the sense of community and belonging in this environment is sensational. We are lucky in that respect

WOW! Sounds like you have a great PS there! A close friend of mine has a child with a specific learning disablility and she has not recieved such support from her PS. It seems the administration would rather just sweep "the problem" under the rug. A guidance counselor told her what kinds of extra help she had the right (by law) to recieve for her child, but also told her, "You have to be strong and fight for these things bc. they will never be offered to you." I think you're right to "try it out" since the school seems to have your child's best interests in mind. You seem to be very in tune to your child and will quickly know whether or not it's working. You can always use homeschooling as your "Plan B".

Originally posted by tmli
The problem I have is in doing research and speaking to people thru online boards and e-mail, info groups etc. I've only been able to find 2 types of homeschoolers--those doing it for religious reasons or those doing it because they are anti-school/organization etc. Is there a 3rd group out there?

Part of the beauty of HS is that you don't have to fit into any "type". I don't fit into either of the 2 groups you mentioned. My reason(s) for HS is really a compellation of many things.

Originally posted by tmli
I am considering hs'ing because that is the best way for my ds to get an education. He just can't learn like most others.--but the fact remains if my son cannot be successful in that environment I need to get him out. Others out there looking at hs'ing for the same reasons?

There's your "3rd group" and I'm sure it's a large one!

Best wishes, crazymomof4