ANOTHER Duggar is on the way..and it's......

[Sabeking]

Congratulations to them!

 

[happygirl]

Seriously, how? I'm honestly curious, plus I'm a school nurse and this could be some professional development for me.

http://www.modernmom.com/article/how-not-to-get-pregnant-without-using-birth-control

 

[Robbi]

I had never heard of these people until the dis, then I read page after page of not very pleasant posts about them. I saw them on Dr. Oz the other night and recognized the name from here. Seemed like some nice, clean good people to me. The lady, who isn't very liked on the dis, was just as nice as she could be.

I agree. It baffles me the way some can get panties in a twist over other family's choices. If a couple wants no children, a few, several, or 6 dozen, it's not my business. The family seems happy.

 

[leebee]

I agree. It baffles me the way some can get panties in a twist over other family's choices. If a couple wants no children, a few, several, or 6 dozen, it's not my business. The family seems happy.

Zero Population Growth may be why some consider the Duggar family to be out of control. In a nutshell, ZPG is the concept that Earth's natural resources are limited; our planet cannot support an ever-increasing number of inhabitants. Therefore, ideally we should limit family size to two children, to be the parent "replacements." It's not a question of whether any one couple has the financial and emotional resources to support/raise a large number of children; it's about thinking globally and being socially responsible enough to help guarantee that this planet will continue to be able to support it's inhabitants.

(Not saying whether I agree with this, just thinking about why some people question having 19kids in one family.)

 

[Robbi]

Zero Population Growth may be why some consider the Duggar family to be out of control. In a nutshell, ZPG is the concept that Earth's natural resources are limited; our planet cannot support an ever-increasing number of inhabitants. Therefore, ideally we should limit family size to two children, to be the parent "replacements." It's not a question of whether any one couple has the financial and emotional resources to support/raise a large number of children; it's about thinking globally and being socially responsible enough to help guarantee that this planet will continue to be able to support it's inhabitants.

(Not saying whether I agree with this, just thinking about why some people question having 19kids in one family.)

Some couples/singles have zero children.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

They can financially and emotionally support their kids. So I say good for them.

I do find it amazing that with 19 kids, so few of them have medical problems. One of the older daughters has something with her legs that gives her pain, Josie was very premature and had health problems for a while (don't know if she still does or if she outgrew them) and Michelle had the 2 miscarriages. If there is anything else then they are doing a good job of keeping it private. But when you hear that 1 in 4 kids is being diagnosed with autism, her success rate is astounding.

 

[firecracker725]

NOT Michelle, but son Josh who with his wife is expecting #3. They are soooo young, at this rate with another 25 to 28 years of fertility, she just may beat Michelle with the baby count.

I had three in 4.5 years, but #2 beat the 99.9% effectiveness (lol, it was fine, we laughed, and he was meant to be here). #1 and #3 we decided on, and we would have liked one more, but it wasn't meant to be as I was diagnosed with something called premature ovarian failure 3 years after my youngest being born. But we knew we wanted them closer is age, so we were doing the baby, toddler thing at once. And it worked for us and was great. And I was 27 when my oldest was born and 31 when my youngest arrived.

With that said though, so young to have so many kids, every 18 months!! I am not judging, just commenting because I assume they will continue having children-------and surprised Michelle isn't having another. I assume perhaps her days many be done??

Any thoughts??????

Sure you are.

 

[BellePrincessBelle]

Their kids are running closer to 2 years apart not 18 months & that is a very average age span. 3 kids at that age is really not that big of a deal. Would people be up in arms if Josh were one of 3 instead of 19?
Eta: the 1st 2 are 20 months apart & the 3rd is due right around #2's 2nd birthday. Still not that close imo.

 

[mom2rtk]

Zero Population Growth may be why some consider the Duggar family to be out of control. In a nutshell, ZPG is the concept that Earth's natural resources are limited; our planet cannot support an ever-increasing number of inhabitants. Therefore, ideally we should limit family size to two children, to be the parent "replacements." It's not a question of whether any one couple has the financial and emotional resources to support/raise a large number of children; it's about thinking globally and being socially responsible enough to help guarantee that this planet will continue to be able to support it's inhabitants.

(Not saying whether I agree with this, just thinking about why some people question having 19kids in one family.)

Actually, our Social Security and Medicare systems could use a few new people paying in. Maybe the Duggars will help make them solvent again.

And besides. I'm sure there are al least 19 Chinese families only having one child.

 

[ccgirl]

NOT Michelle, but son Josh who with his wife is expecting #3. They are soooo young, at this rate with another 25 to 28 years of fertility, she just may beat Michelle with the baby count.

I had three in 4.5 years, but #2 beat the 99.9% effectiveness (lol, it was fine, we laughed, and he was meant to be here). #1 and #3 we decided on, and we would have liked one more, but it wasn't meant to be as I was diagnosed with something called premature ovarian failure 3 years after my youngest being born. But we knew we wanted them closer is age, so we were doing the baby, toddler thing at once. And it worked for us and was great. And I was 27 when my oldest was born and 31 when my youngest arrived.

With that said though, so young to have so many kids, every 18 months!! I am not judging, just commenting because I assume they will continue having children-------and surprised Michelle isn't having another. I assume perhaps her days many be done??

Any thoughts??????

My thoughts are that it is really none of my business as long as they are able to care for their children. They seem like they are raising kind, independent and productive people. I really don't see why people have such issue with them.

 

[Minnesota!]

No real thoughts. They love each other, provide a stable home for their kids, etc. I don't care how many or how often they have kids.

FWIW, my coworker had 4 kids in a span of 2.5 years. Her first two are 11 months apart, and then her twins came 18 months after the second kid.

She started having kids at 18 and was done in her very early 20's.

 

[memma05]

Wow! I love this thread! Its nice to read some positive comments! I actually like the duggars as a whole and respect their parenting skills and beliefs. That is not to say I live my life the same but I refuse to judge people who in my opinion have done nothing wrong and are no burden to society

 

[MrsPete]

I wonder if their religion condemns birth control how will they accomplish stopping at 4 or 5?

I don't believe they actually espouse any particular religion, but they could probably be best categorized as Very Conservative Protestant Christian -- I've heard them described as "home churched". As such, birth control would not be forbidden (by anyone outside the family). They've said they believe in the "quiver full" approach to having children, but that's one belief, not a religion.

Even the Catholic church allows the rhythm method of birth control, and although it isn't nearly as effective as modern medical methods, it's more effective than nothing.

Looks like Michelle and Jim Bob are thinking about adoption.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57576342/the-duggars-are-considering-adoption/

I wonder how realistic that goal might be. They're not particularly young anymore, and adoption isn't cheap.

Actually, our Social Security and Medicare systems could use a few new people paying in. Maybe the Duggars will help make them solvent again.

And besides. I'm sure there are al least 19 Chinese families only having one child.

If you look at the demographics of who's having children these days, you will be concerned about the future of Social Security. Middle and upper class families, those who are most likely to produce well-educated children who will go on to become society's most productive citizens and taxpayers, are having fewer and fewer children. So, yes, we do need more children who'll be self-supporting tax-payers.

 

[nathalee81]

My question is where they will adopt?

China has an age requirement and doesn't allow people with a certain number of children to adopt, correct? In fact, doesn't every foreign country with adoption open to the United States (many have shut their doors to the United States, haven't they?) have some kind of rules about that?

I guess they could adopt domestically?

 

[mom2rtk]

If you look at the demographics of who's having children these days, you will be concerned about the future of Social Security. Middle and upper class families, those who are most likely to produce well-educated children who will go on to become society's most productive citizens and taxpayers, are having fewer and fewer children. So, yes, we do need more children who'll be self-supporting tax-payers.

But we're talking about THIS family. And I think they instill a work ethic that will make them conbtributing members of society. I have HUGE issues with people having kids when they expect others to pay to support them. But that's apparently not the case here. So while I would never have that many kids...... it's none of my business how many they have.

 

[nathalee81]

But we're talking about THIS family. And I think they instill a work ethic that will make them conbtributing members of society. I have HUGE issues with people having kids when they expect others to pay to support them. But that's apparently not the case here. So while I would never have that many kids...... it's none of my business how many they have.

While I don't care how many kids they have, I do disagree about placing your family (including your children) on national television for all to see.

If you choose to do that (and get paid for it) you open yourself to criticism. They made it EVERYONE'S business when they decided to put themselves on display for the whole world to see...

 

[mom2rtk]

While I don't care how many kids they have, I do disagree about placing your family (including your children) on national television for all to see.

If you choose to do that (and get paid for it) you open yourself to criticism. They made it EVERYONE'S business when they decided to put themselves on display for the whole world to see...

That's a valid point. But I still won't criticize. Then are raising responsible kids who will apparently work hard and support themselves (just a guess on my part, I know). So more power to them.

 

[chobie]

While I don't care how many kids they have, I do disagree about placing your family (including your children) on national television for all to see.

If you choose to do that (and get paid for it) you open yourself to criticism. They made it EVERYONE'S business when they decided to put themselves on display for the whole world to see...

Exactly, they are media *****s, plain and simple. If they are going to broadcast every time one of them conceives on national tv, then people are going to make comments.

I don't think they are bad people, but their only claim to fame is how often the reproduce.

And do we know for sure that none if them get any assistance?

 

[wendy46001]

Exactly, they are media *****s, plain and simple. If they are going to broadcast every time one of them conceives on national tv, then people are going to make comments.

I don't think they are bad people, but their only claim to fame is how often the reproduce.

And do we know for sure that none if them get any assistance?

While i dont agree with their belief, how they raise their children, etc etc. I agree they are media *****s and will do anything to keep their TV show (which is in the ratings toilet) going. Also it is known that they did take assistance with their youngest medical bills.

 

[mom2rtk]

Exactly, they are media *****s, plain and simple. If they are going to broadcast every time one of them conceives on national tv, then people are going to make comments.

I don't think they are bad people, but their only claim to fame is how often the reproduce.

And do we know for sure that none if them get any assistance?

Wow, you feel very strongly about this. I just figure if someone doesn't like them they can just not watch their show. If enough people don't watch, then they will no longer have a show. I don't care all that much. I have seen the show, but don't go out of my way to keep up or watch every week.

But no, we don't know for a fact that none of them get assistance. I'm just making an assumption based on the bits I've seen. I'm believing the story line that they are hard working and industrious. That tends to be the sort that avoids a handout. If I see something to the contrary, then I'll change my opinion of them in a heartbeat.