American Adventure, wishing for something.

[kaytieeldr]

The above can be said of every country in World Showcase.

Le Cellier is not representative of ALL of Canada in terms of food.
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At Chefs de France they focus on cafe foods, but they are not representative of the dozens of regions in France and the huge variety in cuisine
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At Tutto Italia, they serve was Americans consider to be traditional Italian, but they don't highlight the northern regions that are more akin to Swiss cusisine.
(etc.)

True. But nobody's suggesting all those other countries offer the variety that they'd want the revamped American restaurant to provide. In just this short thread, at least a dozen different foods and a half-dozen "regional cuisines" have been suggested, along with one suggetion for a representative meal from EACH state. That's over sixty-five items/meals. Many of the items are available in some form oro another elsewhere onsite; aside from that, the kitchen simply couldn't handle the demand/variety.

 

[SydneyFalco]

I may be a Canuck, but I get everybody's desire to see a really cool restaurant representing America with an impressive cross-country menu. It'd be something to take pride in and it would show off America's amazing diversity. At the same time I kinda see the business side of the issue, Disney's need in the showcase for lots of easy quick service and this is where that's best accomplished. I suppose the tiny QS's at the other countries could be expanded, but sadly there ARE a lot of people (kids especially) who are never going to cotton to saurkraut (sp?) on the fly.

Maybe they could do a two storey thing. Keep the QS on the bottom, put the TS on top. Hamburgers and hot dogs downstairs, clam chowder, pacific salmon and gumbo upstairs.

Is calling it the Melting Pot too darn obvious?

Yes, I suppose it is.

 

[GeminiAngel]

I love how this thread is going. Great reasons for why and why not.

Thanks to all those who "got it".

 

[pumba]

I hope that everyone who speaks here will speak with respect to others....if you cant or dont wish to then do not respond ...
thank you

 

[kaytieeldr]

But the area isn't "American Showcase". The entire area is "World Showcase", with food representative of the various countries - not the various regions of the United States and the accompanying food.

The restaurant isn't equipped to offer a variety of regional foods. In addition, there isn't a need to do so. The desired variety of regional and regionally influenced foods is available property-wide. Liberty Inn really prepares eight different menu items for adults (considering that the cheeseburger and the bacon double cheeseburger are practically the same thing, and the Kosher meal is prepared and packaged offsite and only reheated at the restaurant). In fact, one of the current offerings IS barbecue pork sandwich.

Guests who wish to learn about American regional food items have a variety of restaurants from which to choose - sure, not in World Showcase, but all over Walt Disney World.

Fried chicken? 50's Prime Time.
Barbecue Shrimp? Jambalaya? Boatwright's
Macaroni & cheese? Chefs de France, Jiko

And let's not forget the huge variety at Rainforest - bbq ribs, Maine lobster, paella, salmon...

Yes, I really do understand that these aren't Epcot restaurants (although Garden Grill has a pretty 'American' meal, and Coral Reef offers seafood). But given the variety property-wide, there's really no reason for Disney to increase the options at Liberty Inn - especially since it seems to exist primarily to appease the NON-adventurous diner.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

You would think someting along the lines of Liberty tree tavern or somekind of steakhouse would be perfect. Anyone know of any plans for the future in American Adventure?

1) Japan has sushi.
2) China has egg rolls.
3) Germany has bratwurst.
4) France has snails.
5) What is more typical American cuisine than fast-food greasy burgers?

 

[Planogirl]

But the area isn't "American Showcase". The entire area is "World Showcase", with food representative of the various countries - not the various regions of the United States and the accompanying food.

The restaurant isn't equipped to offer a variety of regional foods. In addition, there isn't a need to do so. The desired variety of regional and regionally influenced foods is available property-wide. Liberty Inn really prepares eight different menu items for adults (considering that the cheeseburger and the bacon double cheeseburger are practically the same thing, and the Kosher meal is prepared and packaged offsite and only reheated at the restaurant). In fact, one of the current offerings IS barbecue pork sandwich.

Guests who wish to learn about American regional food items have a variety of restaurants from which to choose - sure, not in World Showcase, but all over Walt Disney World.

Fried chicken? 50's Prime Time.
Barbecue Shrimp? Jambalaya? Boatwright's
Macaroni & cheese? Chefs de France, Jiko

And let's not forget the huge variety at Rainforest - bbq ribs, Maine lobster, paella, salmon...

Yes, I really do understand that these aren't Epcot restaurants (although Garden Grill has a pretty 'American' meal, and Coral Reef offers seafood). But given the variety property-wide, there's really no reason for Disney to increase the options at Liberty Inn - especially since it seems to exist primarily to appease the NON-adventurous diner.

I agree that we aren't talking about the American Showcase however to me the U.S. is certainly part of the World and should be represented in much the same manner as the other countries. I don't have a problem with the burgers and hot dogs being served either but this isn't representative and I guess that is such a shame to me.

I can understand the logic of going elsewhere to try different "American" foods but some of those listed aren't particularly good IMO and maybe that's influencing me too to be fair. The restaurant isn't set up for what we suggest but it could be.

 

[kaytieeldr]

You would think someting along the lines of Liberty tree tavern or somekind of steakhouse would be perfect.

But that's redundant. Disney already has the Liberty Tree Tavern; why duplicate its fare in another location - especially to replace the apparently popular burger-type fare available at Liberty Inn? And there are several steak houses property-wide.

My 'guess' for future plans for the Liberty Inn is that Disney will continue to operate it as the counter service location it is, and with pretty much the same fare.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I can understand the logic of going elsewhere to try different "American" foods but some of those listed aren't particularly good IMO and maybe that's influencing me too to be fair. The restaurant isn't set up for what we suggest but it could be.

Well, so then why would it be expected that the fare at any revamped version of the Liberty Inn would be 'particularly good'? Given the numerous complaints over the last several years about Disney's 'dumbing down' or homogenizing the food choices, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect the same quality at this restaurant?

 

[Planogirl]

Well, so then why would it be expected that the fare at any revamped version of the Liberty Inn would be 'particularly good'? Given the numerous complaints over the last several years about Disney's 'dumbing down' or homogenizing the food choices, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect the same quality at this restaurant?

True but one can always hope for a good place particularly if they decide to keep up with the competitors around them.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I was just trying to get rid of the unknown, for whatever reason, anger in this thread.

I don't think it's anger so much as exasperation. And it's entirely possible that pumba's post (# 31) is directed at all of us, not just one poster who considers a question - not the person asking/framing it, but the question itself - stupid.

 

[kaytieeldr]

True but one can always hope for a good place particularly if they decide to keep up with the competitors around them.

But that assumes the competitors around them (do you mean the other World Showcase restaurants) are "good".

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Perhaps if Disney's fast food offerings weren't so PATHETIC (save for a few exceptions)...then this discussion wouldn't be necessary....

but their fast food is pathetic...hence we wonder why that crappy burger/hotdog/chicken nugget factory is there slogging out aramark specialities....

I don't think...nor ever will think....that they need a burger hut in the showcase...but it is a volume site...so we won't be seeing the end of it soon.

Personally, the entire american pavillion needs to be taken offline for about a good year and completely redone -in my opinion.

Not only could they benefit from a new table service location - but the attraction needs some new blood....the giftshop is silly...and the area around the theater is kinda a mess.

A good tavern/ tap room type restaurant would more than suffice in this locaton...and make made scratch for the rodent

 

[GeminiAngel]

Perhaps if Disney's fast food offerings weren't so PATHETIC (save for a few exceptions)...then this discussion wouldn't be necessary....

but their fast food is pathetic...hence we wonder why that crappy burger/hotdog/chicken nugget factory is there slogging out aramark specialities....

I don't think...nor ever will think....that they need a burger hut in the showcase...but it is a volume site...so we won't be seeing the end of it soon.

Personally, the entire american pavillion needs to be taken offline for about a good year and completely redone -in my opinion.

Not only could they benefit from a new table service location - but the attraction needs some new blood....the giftshop is silly...and the area around the theater is kinda a mess.

A good tavern/ tap room type restaurant would more than suffice in this locaton...and make made scratch for the rodent

That would be interesting to see what they come up with.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I think it would be great if the American Adventure area had more than just burgers and nuggets. If they want to keep it cs, fine. Put some nice salads in there, some deli type sandwiches, . There is fast food beyond the burger if they choose to have fast food as the only offering.

But the kitchen area isn't set up for such a (any kind of) variety. Salads, and a variety of sandwiches, are available at Sunshine Seasons in the same park.

It would still be a step up. Especially for international visitors who might want to sample something from the U.S. that isn't served on a bun or with a side of honey mustard.

But there are other restaurants in the same park that provide this variety - Garden Grill, Sunshine Seasons, Coral Reef... along with several resort restaurants within reasonable walking distance.

I don't see Disney changing either the style of the restaurant, or the menu variety. We can't be the only ones who've ever thought of this; it's only reasonable that Accounting and the Imagineers have looked into it and decided it makes the most sense to keep things exactly as they are.

 

[Amy&Dan]

But the kitchen area isn't set up for such a (any kind of) variety. Salads, and a variety of sandwiches, are available at Sunshine Seasons in the same park.
But there are other restaurants in the same park that provide this variety - Garden Grill, Sunshine Seasons, Coral Reef... along with several resort restaurants within reasonable walking distance.

I don't see Disney changing either the style of the restaurant, or the menu variety. We can't be the only ones who've ever thought of this; it's only reasonable that Accounting and the Imagineers have looked into it and decided it makes the most sense to keep things exactly as they are.

Okay, you win. Its an unworkable idea to change anything about this.

I do wonder however why in the world Electric Umbrella serves hamburgers when this place does as well, and when Le Cellier will take salmon off their menu because its served at Sunshine Seasons. I'm sorry but there are redunancies at each park. You can get a burger at Pecos Bills, you can get one at the Plaza. I don't really see the difference in wanting more variety at this cs place even if you can get it someplace else.

But hey, what do I know!

Good bye all, it was a fun thread but it appears that some of us who want to throw around ideas and wish lists for Epcot's cs are just wasting our time!