Amazing Race, Family Edition. *Official DiscussionThread*

SRUAlmn said:
Didn't they describe what happened in the intros? They said he had to go out to pick up some debris, and he was hit by a car, right? What is the Osha controversy?

No clear protocol for race officials to follow. Race track says they are to have the "all clear"--but evidently no written procedure for it and thus not being able to prove it was their policy and thus endangering the employee. Race track has implemented other safety measures to prevent this from happening and they are refusing to pay an OSHA fine. If a judge sides with OSHA, the race track can appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court. Their side is that in 50 years, they've never had a tragic accident like this.


(I missed the beginning--so knew he died at Daytona..but didn't understand the circumstances).
 
I enjoyed this show but then they did go to places I'm not very familiar with. The groups of four makes it interesting too. Weren't the Italians awful? We were laughing at them though.

It's so sad to hear that the widow's husband was run over. I had wondered what happened to him. :(
 
Does anybody know if they are going to be driving everywhere (i.e. no flights?).

That would be one heck of a cross country tour--out west and back with side trips to Canada and Mexico.
 
wow, over 10 pages already. Dont have time to read them tonight, but at least i found the thread to subscribe...

"Is Pennsylvania is a state?" :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 

The team still in the race with young kids (can't think of their name) said something about this. I remember the Mom saying that their kids were used to traveling all over the world so doing so in this race wouldn't be a big deal for them. I took it to mean that they would be traveling out of the country too.

I wonder if they have to do things differently with minors in tow?
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
No clear protocol for race officials to follow. Race track says they are to have the "all clear"--but evidently no written procedure for it and thus not being able to prove it was their policy and thus endangering the employee. Race track has implemented other safety measures to prevent this from happening and they are refusing to pay an OSHA fine. If a judge sides with OSHA, the race track can appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court. Their side is that in 50 years, they've never had a tragic accident like this.


(I missed the beginning--so knew he died at Daytona..but didn't understand the circumstances).


That's awful that there is no set policy or guidelines. I know we had minor issues with legal things when my dad died, and my mom chose not to persue it. It's just the LAST thing you want to deal with when something like that happens to you. Those poor kids when the buggy ran over the mother too. I'm sure they are hyper-sensitive to things like that and that was just way too strange of a similarity.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Does anybody know if they are going to be driving everywhere (i.e. no flights?).

That would be one heck of a cross country tour--out west and back with side trips to Canada and Mexico.


I was wondering the same thing too. Even next week's episode still has them in PA.
 
Planogirl said:
The team still in the race with young kids (can't think of their name) said something about this. I remember the Mom saying that their kids were used to traveling all over the world so doing so in this race wouldn't be a big deal for them. I took it to mean that they would be traveling out of the country too.

I wonder if they have to do things differently with minors in tow?

I wondered that too. No more legs that last for more than 1 day? More frequent stops for restrooms, and did you notice they gave them the pack of water after the Amish task? I don't think I've ever seen that before. When do the racers stop to eat and use the restroom? I always wondered that :confused3
 
DS asked me about restrooms tonight and I told him that they stopped when their cameraman needed to. ;)

They do however have to keep 5 people's appetites and restroom needs in mind. I bet that they actually stop quite a few times.
 
SRUAlmn said:
That's awful that there is no set policy or guidelines. I know we had minor issues with legal things when my dad died, and my mom chose not to persue it. It's just the LAST thing you want to deal with when something like that happens to you. Those poor kids when the buggy ran over the mother too. I'm sure they are hyper-sensitive to things like that and that was just way too strange of a similarity.

I don't think they are suing...but rather OSHA is trying to make them pay the fine for violating a regulation that Daytona International Speedway (that i just noticed is D.I.S. ) is claiming they didn't do.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
I don't think they are suing...but rather OSHA is trying to make them pay the fine for violating a regulation that Daytona International Speedway (that i just noticed is D.I.S. ) is claiming they didn't do.


Oh, sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I wasn't under the impression the family was suing, sorry. Who exactly is OSHA trying to fine? The crew of guys that he was working with, or DIS ( ;) ) in general?
 
SRUAlmn said:
Oh, sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I wasn't under the impression the family was suing, sorry. Who exactly is OSHA trying to fine? The crew of guys that he was working with, or DIS ( ;) ) in general?

Daytona International Speedway as the employer.

He was a race track official and not a crew member. Though I'm not sure that, where OSHA is concerned, if it makes a difference or not.

Article from a year ago--not sure the present status of this issue.
http://www.news-journalonline.com/speed/special/royweaver/03NewsHEAD02110704.htm
 
Great show! I love The Amazing Race. My Dh jumped out of the chair when they announced the pit stop. He had stayed at that farm alot when his DD was small. I hope I get to see some places I "know". I think it would be neat to be able to know if the teams are going the right way or not.
 
Okay SRU Alum...here's how it all turned out (nothing more recent than February 2005):

OSHA, Daytona Intl Speedway settle safety issues in worker's death: Daytona International Speedway track workers will have written guidelines, hands-on training and a definitive chain of command during racing events as part of a settlement agreement with the federal government signed Tuesday. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration withdrew its most serious citation against the track -- failure to have a written protocol for workers stepping onto the track -- in the case involving the death of track worker Roy Weaver during a 2004 race. In return the Speedway agreed to develop a written safety and training policy for cleanup personnel who are "exposed to the hazard of being struck by moving competition vehicles while performing their duties on or near the competition area during a motorsports competition event." The track will also train its safety teams at least once a year and strengthen radio communication between the control tower and those on the ground tending to accident situations. Weaver was killed instantly on Feb. 8, 2004, when struck by a racecar traveling in excess of 100 mph during the IPOWER Dash Series 150. He was on the racetrack surface during a caution period to retrieve debris in Turn 2 of the Speedway. The Weaver family found little solace in the OSHA-Speedway settlement. "It's amazing that a multi-million dollar company engaged in such a dangerous business didn't have comprehensive safety procedures in place until the federal government forced them to," said attorney Rob Clarke, speaking on behalf of the Weaver family. "For Roy and his family, it's too late." Tuesday's agreement stipulates that the citation and settlement "are not intended to be admitted in any action in state court or federal court as evidence of negligence or lack of due care" by the Speedway. Weaver, 44, of Ormond Beach was the first track worker killed since the Speedway opened in 1959. His widow, Linda Weaver, has said she is considering a wrongful death lawsuit. There were 12 additional violations and fines the Speedway did not contest. The Speedway will pay the other fines which total $4,875. Other minor citations dealt with issues including a security employee without hearing protection and a track worker without a helmet.(Daytona Beach News Journal)(2-23-2005)
 
Okay--found one more update from a current article:

The father of the family, Roy Weaver III, was struck and killed by a race car at the speedway Feb. 8, 2004, as he was removing debris from the track. The family has a wrongful-death lawsuit pending against the track and the race-car driver involved.
 
I enjoyed the show! I was surprised that there wasn't more kids in the families. Only two families had kids under 16. The Italian family is the one we'll all love to hate - they are absolutely dreadful to listen to!
 
aprilgail2 said:
I am watching this for the first time....never watched the pervious ones....the only family I don't like so far is the family that keeps praying...its very annoying, like their god has nothing better to do then guide them to lancaster!!
They are showing them praying a lot, but so many of the other teams yell "Oh my God" frequently too. I prefer the praying ones to the ones who yell about God carelessly.

I can't imagine that the teams with the kids are going to be able to keep up with the all-adult teams for long.
 
georgina said:
I can't imagine that the teams with the kids are going to be able to keep up with the all-adult teams for long.
I don't know. Preteens and teens can MOVE when they want to. I'm not so sure about the little girl but she sure did too well tonight.

I'm more concerned about the older parents myself. And that one group that almost got eliminated. Why were they so exhausted?
 
Planogirl said:
Why were they so exhausted?

4 essentially grown people--who are probably not as in shape as they thought choosing to take the cart instead of building the building.

2 people had to ride and 2 people had to push/pull...and there were hills involved.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Okay SRU Alum...here's how it all turned out (nothing more recent than February 2005):


Thanks, that helps me understand. So sad :(
 















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