Am I the only one NERVOUS about the vaccine? And I’m very PRO-VAX

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https://www.nature.com/articles/d41...45_deeplink_PID100067681&utm_content=deeplink

What is explained here is most likely equally applicable to the J&J vaccine.

This is why a lengthy phase 3 trial is the usual SOP before a full FDA approval is provided for new drugs and vaccines. There are things you will sometimes see in a larger, more diverse population over a longer observational time period than what you will see from a few months in phase 3 before EUA is approved.

I am very much pro-vaccine, and even advocated for the J&J vaccine very hard relative to the mRNA vaccines. But, now I am reconsidering that opinion, especially for a healthy younger women who takes all the preventative precautions, such as masking and social distancing.
 
Let us know how you make out. I get my second next week and am also a little nervous.

FYI, every person , in 'my world' has had no side effects to the second dose other than a sore shot site. Myself included. I had Pfizer, others have had J&J. This is our good news and our story.

I do have an 18yo nephew who has had lasting effects from Covid, mostly with taste and smell changes; he had it before the vaccine was available. He is a healthy college student, young man with no underlying health issues. Doing good but still dealing.

Some of my people had underlying health issues, one actually was on a ventilator for 2 months because of Covid, total of 5 months in the hospital. We feel we are very blessed with his recovery. He is doing very well and has exceeded his doctors expectations.

No vaccine side effects from anyone with underlying health issues.

Not saying this is always the case, but not having side effects happen are more prevalent than having them. I believe this has been documented. We would easily taken a few side effects (usually flu-like symptoms) from the (proven safe, IMO) vaccine over having him go through 4 months of hell let alone the family. He is still in recovery but getting better (yay).
I hope no one here has to experience it, because it does happen to people, and Covid is a proven killer.

Unfortunately there is much misinformation out there, mostly by the media. Very sad indeed because people rely on them for accurate information.
Sorry for the long story, it is nice to vent here.
Hope for the best for you. 😊
 
My husband has a Marine buddy who is dealing with Long Covid. He is in his late 30s. Absolutely no prior health issues. Got Covid 6 months ago and is still dealing with almost daily headaches, coughing fits, and fatigue/shortness of breath. His actual illness was "mild" at the time. I can't even imagine having to live that way, not knowing when you might start to feel better. His military career is basically over at this point. He will likely face a medical board discharge. I can't imagine the depression that will result from that.
Sadly we also have a person in the military that had Covid with some neurological issues, so he is still sruggling with that whole military thing.
We are praying it does not affect his career. He is in the recovery phase now. He also had no underlying heath issues. He is a beautiful healthy young man who was given a bad deal in his young life.
 

Received my vaccine. Within a couple of hours my entire face broke out in a rash. Doesn’t hurt. Doesn’t itch. But it’s a definite rash.
 
Received my vaccine. Within a couple of hours my entire face broke out in a rash. Doesn’t hurt. Doesn’t itch. But it’s a definite rash.

You might want to take a pic and call the vaccine line or your doc to see if they'd want you to take anything allergy med related to offset any further reaction in that vein.
 
That is true but you also can't say for certain that the vaccine isn't the cause. That is what make assessing safety so difficult as it is always based on the doctor's opinion. The doctor could be wrong either way in saying that it was related or it wasn't. That is why you are supposed to report everything so that any trends can be established.

We also do a terrible job of really looking at safety data once a drug/vaccine is on the market. It takes many events to overturn an approval.
Oh my......so not true.
What is your source?
Are you not aware of post-market surveillence? I believe you indicated previously you are in clinical research.
Pharm companies are under constant vigil of any issues with their drugs, report issues if serious and are obligated to do a full report annually. Hmm.....
 
Oh my......so not true.
What is your source?
Are you not aware of post-market surveillence? I believe you indicated previously you are in clinical research.
Pharm companies are under constant vigil of any issues with their drugs, report issues if serious and are obligated to do a full report annually. Hmm.....
Yes, I’m in research & you’re right that companies need to file annual reports but so many side effects go unreported outside of clinical trials. That is why it takes so many bad events for something to actually gain traction & get an approval overturned.

have you ever had a reaction to anything? If so did you report it to the company or the FDA? Odds are no you didn’t. It is a function of nobody realizes they are supposed to do this & often doctors or patients make their own assessment of if it is drug related or not without reporting it.

what is your source that we have vigorous reporting of AE’s once on the market?
 
Looking at my Pfizer info packet, it's not an unexpected reaction to Pfizer - since it's an allergy reaction, albeit a non-severe one, I'd still double check with a doc about taking something...
It’s just odd. I’m allergic to nothing. I’ve received vaccines before and no rash. And when I googled it said if you get a non injection site rash within 4 hours do NOT get the second shot. I reported it. The message said someone from the CDC may call me.
 
It’s just odd. I’m allergic to nothing. I’ve received vaccines before and no rash. And when I googled it said if you get a non injection site rash within 4 hours do NOT get the second shot. I reported it. The message said someone from the CDC may call me.

You didn’t roll around poison Ivy before getting it, right?
 
Well, aren’t you lucky that nobody you know who has had Covid has had a serious case. More than half a million other families can’t say the same thing.

That’s true, but there are millions more who can say it hasn’t had that affect on them. We had one family member (SIL) who got it. Only symptom was mild fatigue. Her kids and husband didn’t get it. A girl in my son’s ballet class had it. She was sick for one day. No one else in the class contracted it. I literally do not even personally know one other person who’s had it, nevermind had a severe case. I’m sure that plays into my vaccine hesitancy, and that of others. Tough to take a risk on a vaccine not having long term consequences when the virus has an extremely high survival rate for most people.
Oh my......so not true.
What is your source?
Are you not aware of post-market surveillence? I believe you indicated previously you are in clinical research.
Pharm companies are under constant vigil of any issues with their drugs, report issues if serious and are obligated to do a full report annually. Hmm.....

Where do you work that you are so sure that pharmaceutical companies are always perfect and quick to admit any mistakes? There are many class-action law-suits which say otherwise...

Let’s face it, these vaccines WERE rushed. No two ways about it. And yay, they seem to work and seem to (hopefully) help more people than they are injuring. But let’s not pretend that issues might not crop up. I’ve read multiple quotes from doctors associated with the AZ clotting cases who say they have no doubt that the vaccine caused the issue. Now it looks like the J&J vaccine might have a similar issue.

But instead of people saying, “whoa, maybe we should slow down because any death is one too many” - a la when everyone said we needed to shut down the world because one death was one too many even though other people were dying and suffering BECAUSE of the shutdowns - it’s still “full speed ahead, because we’re helping more people than we’re hurting”. Well every one of those people who die have families, just like those who die of covid have families. And maybe it’s a risk vs return situation and we just need to accept that, but it’s pretty callous to just dismiss concerns out of hand. Of course I also thought it was callous to dismiss the concerns of those who were losing their jobs, homes, and very lives (suicide) due to covid restrictions.

EVERY life matters, and shutting down RATIONAL fears/uncertainty as being “irrational” or “ignorant” is itself ignorant. After all, when the first few people died after the AZ vaccine, most were shushing anyone who voiced concerns that it might be a real problem. Now lo and behold it’s a real problem and the vaccine is no longer being used in certain cohorts.

I’m sure the people who designed the AZ and J&J vaccines never thought they’d cause clotting issues. No one would produce a vaccine that they thought would hurt people - that’s the point, it’s UNKNOWN.

Now I’m signed up to get the Pfizer vaccine tomorrow, but I sure as heck won’t get any vaccine for my 12 yr old boys.
 
I'm a Sr. CTM and have been running studies since 2006 and have probably worked across 50 or so clinical trials all over the world during my career so yes, I have direct knowledge of the rigour that is supposed to be involved and the serious questions about the lack of safety reporting in some of these trials. Not to mention the amount of money that was given to participants - over $1000 as reported by some of the volunteers on this site and a few others I have been to.

I also know the history of research and how we have not gotten it right all the time and the limitations. If you aren't looking for something you aren't going to find it.
Oh, ok. It doesn't appear that you understand the whole picture. In my experience everyone works really hard to make sure errors of the past are not repeated.

Have you been directly involved in the extensive analysis involved before something is sent for market approval? As a study manager you may not be involved in the statistical and clinical significance and Regulatory steps past the study itself. This does not stop once a study is done, there are many more steps involved.
My question is why is the study not collecting safety data? Is there no IRB involved?

Are you saying the studies you work on give money to subjects? This is considered biased and very unethical in the industry.
Reimbursing subjects for their expenses is not paying a person to participate in research.
Are you reporting this unethical practice to the FDA to protect subjects, which you are obligated to do?
Your statements just do not appear to sound like some one involved in research. I hope I am wrong.
I have been in research and healthcare for many years, I do not want people to think that there are not ethical researchers.
Best of luck to you.....
 
Received my vaccine. Within a couple of hours my entire face broke out in a rash. Doesn’t hurt. Doesn’t itch. But it’s a definite rash.

I was advised to report my adverse reaction to my doctor, who referred me to an allergist for final opinion on whether it was safe to get the 2nd Pfizer shot.

Maybe checking with an allergist will be helpful.
 
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