All things George Zimmerman...

[sbell111]

That comment seems to have invoked an emotional response in you.

If you'd rather not answer direct questions posed of you, that's fine. That being said, it would be better if you didn't bother to respond at all in that likelihood.

 

[PaulaSB12]

in a hoodie? ducking under easements? have 2 dogs here...do not take them out in any rain, they go in the back yard...not sure your city but here, no, gainesville, no, lakeland, no - did not happen...you'd be running to GET OUT of the rain.

of course we go out in it...had to today. but not walk, being grounded to get "a tea and said skittles".............even at the beach.....tourists go in.....

Now why should you have to run to get out of rain? I never do all you do is end up hot out of breath and still wet I would rather walk still get wet but not be hot and bothered that doesn't seem suspicious to me, and yes I have taken a dog out in the rain there is no law that says you can't.

 

[chobie]

If you'd rather not answer direct questions posed of you, that's fine. That being said, it would be better if you didn't bother to respond at all in that likelihood.

Well, just like you, if I find your questions/ comments boring, I may choose not to respond.

So, what did you find out about the police report and where the tea was found?

 

[Coconut36]

Now why should you have to run to get out of rain? I never do all you do is end up hot out of breath and still wet I would rather walk still get wet but not be hot and bothered that doesn't seem suspicious to me, and yes I have taken a dog out in the rain there is no law that says you can't.

Heck I think Mythbusters even showed that running in the rain doesn't reduce how wet you get..if anything I think the end results showed you ended up wetter than you would if you walked normally through it. If I was out and it began to rain I can be sure I would be unlikely to start running back to my destination because like you I feel all it would lead to is me being wet, out of breath and sweaty. I would just continue to walk. In this instance it's not like Martin had alternative means to get home..he set out on foot, he had to return on foot regardless of some rain.

 

[sbell111]

It was found in his pocket. Its in the police report that it was found in his pocket and fell on the ground when he was rolled over for CPR. I'm not going to argue with you about it. If it were found on the ground, it would have been photographed there.

I guess that's one more thing that was free from Martin's hands to allow for punching.

 

[sbell111]

I guess its easier to just make things up and say its in there. Besides if you get posters distracted by arguing little things (like lie detector vs. Polygraph vs. Voice stress test) , you take the focus away from what could have actually happened that night based on evidence.

Settle down. I didn't make anything up. I remembered McCoy's statement that the can of tea was near the body, but had forgotten Raimondo's statement that it was initially found in the pocket. Personally, I don't care where it was found as it's location in a pocket or near the body has no bearing on the case.

 

[sbell111]

If figures, you don't care about any evidence that doesn't fit your theory. It doesn't matter that I provided the ACTUAL police reports released by SPD, not some unofficial report from an officer that arrived third on the scene.

The police officer's statement was part of the 'actual, official police report'. She was the supervising officer, after all. (I gave you her name and the page number so you could look it up for yourself.)

 

[chobie]

Settle down. I didn't make anything up. I remembered McCoy's statement that the can of tea was near the body, but had forgotten Raimondo's statement that it was initially found in the pocket. Personally, I don't care where it was found as it's location in a pocket or near the body has no bearing on the case.

In other words, you were wrong about the ice tea?

 

[davmill]

Wow...very strong debate here on GZ. Wonder what the ethnicity of the posters are?

 

[sbell111]

In other words, you were wrong about the ice tea?

Did I not make that clear?

 

[sunshinehighway]

More was released today.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/99916379/Documents-Given-to-the-Defendant-R-1#download

 

[Get Real]

You might want to refer to page 17 of the police report where the on duty supervisor, officer Stacie McCoy, states that she observed a can of tea and a pair of headphones in close proximity to the body.
I can't figure out what you are trying to say.

The mere fact that a person has lied about one thing, doesn't mean that they have lied about everything. Also, what lie has it been proven that George Zimmerman told?

He "was punched in the nose at the T, was grounded, then Trayvon got on top of him".

In ALL of his statements to police aside from the "embellished" video re-enactment, Zimmerman stated this.

YET, all but one piece of evidence and Trayvon's body was found much much further south of the T.

Did Zimmerman hit the ground at the T, then bounce to where all the evidence and body ended up?

 

[sbell111]

He "was punched in the nose at the T, was grounded, then Trayvon got on top of him".

In ALL of his statements to police aside from the "embellished" video re-enactment, Zimmerman stated this.

YET, all but one piece of evidence and Trayvon's body was found much much further south of the T.

Did Zimmerman hit the ground at the T, then bounce to where all the evidence and body ended up?

This statement has not been disproved. Also, per the pictures of the crime scene, the final location wasn't 'much much further south of the T'.

 

[lillygator]

not sure where the rest of you floridians live, but teens, nor most people do not go out walking around in the rain here....even at bus stops people are huddled under the wait area and sharing umbrellas......it is a nasty humid feeling in the rain, not something to frolic around for fun in. but guess in your "areas" that is "norm".........eta and it has rained here everyday this week

the can in his pocket could have appeared to be a gun bulge

 

[joviroxx]

not sure where the rest of you floridians live, but teens, nor most people do not go out walking around in the rain here....even at bus stops people are huddled under the wait area and sharing umbrellas......it is a nasty humid feeling in the rain, not something to frolic around for fun in. but guess in your "areas" that is "norm".........

the can in his pocket could have appeared to be a gun bulge

Im in South Florida, Broward county to be exact. We don't go walking int he rain. Its gross out there. You might have to walk to and from a car, but that's it. Not even my dog likes the rain!

 

[sunshinehighway]

not sure where the rest of you floridians live, but teens, nor most people do not go out walking around in the rain here....even at bus stops people are huddled under the wait area and sharing umbrellas......it is a nasty humid feeling in the rain, not something to frolic around for fun in. but guess in your "areas" that is "norm".........eta and it has rained here everyday this week

the can in his pocket could have appeared to be a gun bulge

Zimmerman doesn't describe any type of bulge. At one point he says Martin has something in his hands (or maybe it was his hands in his waistband?) but, that's it. It seems beyond stupid to get out of the car and follow Martin if he thought Martin had a weapon.

I have a question. Earlier in these threads, poster were defending Zimmerman because Martin was bashing his head into the concrete. Now that Zimmerman's statements are out, he has Martin doing several things just before the shot. How do GZ supports feel about that? Which of those things do you believe Martin was doing?

I guess its actually several questions.

 

[chobie]

not sure where the rest of you floridians live, but teens, nor most people do not go out walking around in the rain here....even at bus stops people are huddled under the wait area and sharing umbrellas......it is a nasty humid feeling in the rain, not something to frolic around for fun in. but guess in your "areas" that is "norm".........eta and it has rained here everyday this week

the can in his pocket could have appeared to be a gun bulge

I see people, including teens, walking in the rain all the time here. I walk in the rain with my husband. for exercise often -- with our schedules, if we don't take our walk because its raining, we would not be walking a lot. Granted not in a torrential downpour with thunder and lightening, but that was not the weather pattern the night the kid was killed.

As for the "gun bulge," considering GZ never mentioned anything about thinking TM was armed, in any of his statements/ "re-enactment," we can assume its a fact he didn't think the kid was armed. But, maybe the next time he gets to tell his story he should add that on there.

 

[Coconut36]

not sure where the rest of you floridians live, but teens, nor most people do not go out walking around in the rain here....even at bus stops people are huddled under the wait area and sharing umbrellas......it is a nasty humid feeling in the rain, not something to frolic around for fun in. but guess in your "areas" that is "norm".........eta and it has rained here everyday this week

the can in his pocket could have appeared to be a gun bulge

So a kid who has no other way to get home than walk would just stand around and not move at all towards his home until the rain stopped? That seems silly to me. Martin's option to get home was to walk..rain or no rain and from what has been stated it was just a light drizzle not a downpour.

I can't believe you speak for the entire teen and adult population of Florida..plenty of people in plenty of areas have no issue walking in the rain especially when that is their only way to get where they need to go. Of course at a bus stop people might be under the cover..but to get there they had to walk in the rain, no?

 

[sunshinehighway]

I see people, including teens, walking on the rain all the time here. I walk on the rain withy husband for exercise often -- with our schedules, if we
don't take our walk because its raining, we would not be walking a lot. Granted not in a torrential downpour with thunder and lightening, but that was not the weather pattern the night the kid was killed.

As for the "gun bulge," considering GZ never mentioned anything about thinking TM was armed, in any of his statements/ "re-enactment," we can assume its a fact he didn't think the kid was armed. But, maybe the next time he gets to tell his story he should add that on there.

He did add it in later. In his apology to Martin's parents. He actually said he didn't know if Martin was armed or not. Seems like a good clue that Martin wasn't armed was the fact that Zimmerman has Martin going for his gun. If Martin was trying so hard to kill him (smothering, head bashing) why wait until he realizes Zimmerman has a gun? That alone should make it pretty clear that he didn't have a weapon.

Oh, in that apology he also said he didn't know how old Martin was, thought he was just a few years younger than him (GZ). Listen to the non emergency call. He accurately describes Martin as being in his teens. Later in the call, when he's lost Martin after following him, he refers to Martin as a kid. He says something like "I don't know where this kid went".

 

[sunshinehighway]

So a kid who has no other way to get home than walk would just stand around and not move at all towards his home until the rain stopped? That seems silly to me. Martin's option to get home was to walk..rain or no rain and from what has been stated it was just a light drizzle not a downpour.

I can't believe you speak for the entire teen and adult population of Florida..plenty of people in plenty of areas have no issue walking in the rain especially when that is their only way to get where they need to go. Of course at a bus stop people might be under the cover..but to get there they had to walk in the rain, no?

If Martin was grounded but, had permission to go to the store, it makes sense that he was taking his sweet ol' time getting home. Rain or not, you're stuck in the house with your little step-brother, you take any chance you can to get out for a little while. Its really not that weird.