All FP machines to be removed from Animal Kingdom by next week and....

[mesaboy2]

So, um, 90 pages in... did this happen or not? It's been over a week, right?

They have been covered since Wednesday.

 

[Mad Hattered]

So, um, 90 pages in... did this happen or not? It's been over a week, right?

The short answer is.....yes.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Vs paying upwards of $70/night more for a hotel that I shower and sleep in.

The Values, during off-season with a discount, can be less than $100 a night. If you're sleeping somewhere for $30 a night, I don't think that place is very clean and/or safe.

 

[Mad Hattered]

The Values, during off-season with a discount, can be less than $100 a night. If you're sleeping somewhere for $30 a night, I don't think that place is very clean and/or safe.

If you travel during off-season, you are correct. But there is no way, no how a room at All Stars should EVER reach the $150/night price point. Ever.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

If you travel during off-season, you are correct. But there is no way, no how a room at All Stars should EVER reach the $150/night price point. Ever.

Yeah, I agree.

 

[amylevan]

If you travel during off-season, you are correct. But there is no way, no how a room at All Stars should EVER reach the $150/night price point. Ever.

I agree.

And yet, at 80% occupancy, there are still people filling those rooms. Which ultimately means that the price is set correctly - people are still willing to pay that price. (Just not us.)

 

[jade1]

I agree.

And yet, at 80% occupancy, there are still people filling those rooms. Which ultimately means that the price is set correctly - people are still willing to pay that price. (Just not us.)

Exactly.

 

[Laketravis]

Exactly.

Wow.

And for just $3 a night more for the same dates, you could stay here:

Shingle Creek

Except THEY are sold out.

 

[Laketravis]

Or even here for $100 a night less:

Westin Universal

I dunno - those places look pretty dirty, though, and in some rough neighborhoods....

 

[dayvewc]

never mind - not near as funny upon reflection as it was in my head.

 

[Angel Ariel]

...but then you need to rent a car. Or two. It evens out.

Even those who stay onsite rent cars. So for those families, they would come out ahead staying offsite (budget wise) since they'd be renting a car anyway.

 

[KatieCharlotte]

...but then you need to rent a car. Or two. It evens out.

Well, you don't need to rent a car if you're like my family and most of my friends' families and drive for two days each way rather than paying to fly five or more people across the country, especially during school breaks when flights are over $500 per person.

When we did fly down during the off season, we rented a van and a condo for ourselves and the grandparents and paid for parking, for a total cost of about $1,100. You can't house seven people onsite for that price, not even considering the savings from having a kitchen.

 

[mom2rtk]

You can't house seven people onsite for that price, not even considering the savings from having a kitchen.

I have not yet found an offsite location that will save me money on food without me cooking. So I refuse to consider that piece in the equation. For me freedom from food preparation is a huge piece of having a vacation.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Accidental double post, sorry!

 

[dwheaton]

I have not yet found an offsite location that will save me money on food without me cooking. So I refuse to consider that piece in the equation. For me freedom from food preparation is a huge piece of having a vacation.

We don't cook when we stay offsite, but we still save a ton of money. Having breakfast in the condo, waters and sodas for the mornings and evenings, and access to snacks is huge. Plus, we usually order pizza or eat somewhere off-site once or twice, which is always cheaper.

 

[kmarie99]

I have not yet found an offsite location that will save me money on food without me cooking. So I refuse to consider that piece in the equation. For me freedom from food preparation is a huge piece of having a vacation.

AMEN!!!!

 

[dayvewc]

I have not yet found an offsite location that will save me money on food without me cooking. So I refuse to consider that piece in the equation. For me freedom from food preparation is a huge piece of having a vacation.

$6 footlong deli sandwiches from Wal-Mart. If the rest of the people I travel with want anything more / better / prepared - they know where the kitchen is!!

 

[AliceandAriel]

Offsite is usually way cheaper, even if you add in the car. The only way it comes close is comparing value rooms, and that's comparing them to large accommodations offsite. It's not a debate, for a family who wants to go the cheapest route offsite is going to always be the answer. There's cheaper ways to stay on Disney property, but none come close to the cheaper ways to do it offsite. The car itself gives you the ability to eat cheaper as well.

Cheaper to some, not all. For a party of two, like me and my SO, we don't need anything past a bed and shower/bathroom, so the values are always our spot. We go during off season, shop for deals on the same room, and don't have to factor in transportation because of DME. To stay off site, rent a car, tolls, parking, and factor in all that headache, is too much for us financially and mentally. There's enough of a head rush to plan a Disney trip, why add more to the mess?

I get off-site is usually better for families, but not us.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Or even here for $100 a night less:

Westin Universal

I dunno - those places look pretty dirty, though, and in some rough neighborhoods....

Wow.

And for just $3 a night more for the same dates, you could stay here:

Shingle Creek

Except THEY are sold out.

And just think...by this time next year, if Disney does make offsite significantly disadvantaged versus onsite in terms of FP, those offsite hotels may even be cheaper

 

[jade1]

Or even here for $100 a night less:

Westin Universal

I dunno - those places look pretty dirty, though, and in some rough neighborhoods....

I will guarantee you if you pay for either of your examples for me-I will gladly pass.

Would also pass on Pop.

And all that said I would grab the BC for $660 without a doubt if I could go next week.

Money is not the only factor to everyone.