Alarm Clocks

[Maistre Gracey]

Wont argue the importance of a clock, seems to be split among posts. Seeing how Disney decisions are usually far reaching and eventually encompass all the resorts, DVC has around 4000 rooms and if they carry it over to all WDW resorts that number is over 30,000 rooms at $10. each it adds up, for an item that is by most standards becoming obsolete. I can see the phones disappearing in the not to distant future as well. All my contact with Disney is through my I phone apps or text. Also some of the rooms 2bedroom, villas etc may have 3-4 clocks and phones, this is no small expense.

$30 worth of furnishings that lasts several years for a room that goes for $1000 per night, is indeed a very, very small expense.

Forget the "alarm" portion for a moment... Are you suggesting a clock is almost obsolete?

Even so an "alarm clock" will never be obsolete. It's just now that your phone has an alarm clock built in.

MG

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Wont argue the importance of a clock, seems to be split among posts. Seeing how Disney decisions are usually far reaching and eventually encompass all the resorts, DVC has around 4000 rooms and if they carry it over to all WDW resorts that number is over 30,000 rooms at $10. each it adds up, for an item that is by most standards becoming obsolete. I can see the phones disappearing in the not to distant future as well. All my contact with Disney is through my I phone apps or text. Also some of the rooms 2bedroom, villas etc may have 3-4 clocks and phones, this is no small expense.

I think I've already pointed this out but it wasn't that they were deciding to not put the alarm clocks in the room - they actually spent the money to remove what already existed! Any replacements along the way really would be trivial.

Now - it would be an expense to put them back.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

was at BWV and BCV a couple of weeks ago - studios - no clocks in either. No DVD players either but apparently you can ask for one.

I use my phone anyway. I even use the phone at home.

 

[fishermouse]

$30 worth of furnishings that lasts several years for a room that goes for $1000 per night, is indeed a very, very small expense.

Forget the "alarm" portion for a moment... Are you suggesting a clock is almost obsolete?

Even so an "alarm clock" will never be obsolete. It's just now that your phone has an alarm clock built in.

MG

You must be a politician! you can't forget a portion of a sentence and make it say what you want so you can argue your point, unless of course your running for office. Since we were talking about plug in alarm clocks, that is probably what I was referring to. And yes they are going the way of landline telephones, phone booths radios and CD players. I personally have not used one in years, don't know many people that find it a necessity. They do nothing you can't do with your smart phone using a fraction of the energy. Most businessmen will agree >$380,000.00 is a big expense for something that is not needed, does not enhance the overall guest experience and must be replaced periodically. I'm sure there are a few people that will miss them at first but generally people adapt. I no longer carry a camera or calculator or notebook computer, I do however bring a chrome stick so I can watch Netflix or Disney movies. My phone takes care of all these and more.

 

[BillPA]

But WE paid for a upscale resort, I don't think we should have to deal with bringing our own phone, clock, DVD...what's next washer and dryer. If I wanted cheap I would have purchased else where. It's our money not DVDs or are we going to get a rebate?

 

[Maistre Gracey]

You must be a politician! you can't forget a portion of a sentence and make it say what you want so you can argue your point, unless of course your running for office. Since we were talking about plug in alarm clocks, that is probably what I was referring to. And yes they are going the way of landline telephones, phone booths radios and CD players. I personally have not used one in years, don't know many people that find it a necessity. They do nothing you can't do with your smart phone using a fraction of the energy. Most businessmen will agree >$380,000.00 is a big expense for something that is not needed, does not enhance the overall guest experience and must be replaced periodically. I'm sure there are a few people that will miss them at first but generally people adapt. I no longer carry a camera or calculator or notebook computer, I do however bring a chrome stick so I can watch Netflix or Disney movies. My phone takes care of all these and more.

Ahh... but you're forgetting you must also plug in your phone, thus making your alarm clock also the plug in style.
Ever forget your phone charger, have a dead battery, and no longer have a clock?

Yes, pay phones are obsolete. That was purely market driven, as folks just weren't putting in their dime any longer. Now, if hotel clocks had a change slot in order to operate I could see your point.

When we evolve to the point we can communicate telepathically and no longer need a phone, will clocks come back in style?

You know, I'm 52 years old. I don't stare at my phone and rely on it for everything like some do.

PS... will TV's become obsolete?

MG

 

[fishermouse]

But WE paid for a upscale resort, I don't think we should have to deal with bringing our own phone, clock, DVD...what's next washer and dryer. If I wanted cheap I would have purchased else where. It's our money not DVDs or are we going to get a rebate?

I don't think it's a matter of being cheap, if that were the case they would probably just not replace them as the break. I just think it's a sign of the times, most people do not use them. Maybe some one can take a poll of how many people actually use them, obviously it will be unscientific but might give us an idea. If they get enough complaints you can bet they will be put back. for me it's just one less thing to clutter up the table. I usually unplug it so I have an outlet by the bed for my phone charger.

 

[carlbarry]

I love the delusion that using a clock in a phone "saves energy." First, the phone must be charged. It takes MORE electricity to charge the battery than to just run the phone via the charger. And oh yes, the charger is not 100 efficient in converting the AC to DC, so energy is wasted there, too. And then when the battery dies when it has reached it charge/discharge/recharge limit, it must be discarded, recycled, and new battery built. Compare all that to a clock radio that lasts perhaps 10 years. I wonder if the poster is using a 10 year old phone, or expects to ever keep a phone for 10 years?
Or is the poster talking about the energy required of the user? Because if I wake up at night, roll over, look at the clock, and then go back to sleep, it takes a LOT less energy than waking up, rolling over, grabbing the phone, activating the phone, putting the phone back down, and rolling back to sleep.
I'll believe clocks are obsolete when I see businesses sending workers to take them down from walls. Or maybe when Disney removes the clocks from the hot tubs, because, hey, everybody in the tub is sitting there with a phone.

 

[fishermouse]

Ahh... but you're forgetting you must also plug in your phone, thus making your alarm clock also the plug in style.
Ever forget your phone charger, have a dead battery, and no longer have a clock?

Yes, pay phones are obsolete. That was purely market driven, as folks just weren't putting in their dime any longer. Now, if hotel clocks had a change slot in order to operate I could see your point.

When we evolve to the point we can communicate telepathically and no longer need a phone, will clocks come back in style?

You know, I'm 52 years old. I don't stare at my phone and rely on it for everything like some do.

PS... will TV's become obsolete?

MG

So are you saying you stare at the alarm clock all day! sorry, couldn't resist. I doubt if TV's will be obsolete any time soon, however a cable attached to the wall probably will once we can stream everything from our pc or smart phone. As far as the phone goes acting as a phone is a small portion of what we do with a "smart phone". As for staring at it all day, don't do that but at WDW I do use it for reservations, ride times, fast pass, camera, room notifications, Alarm Clock, and more, I actually don't use it for telling time unless I'm in my room, I'm sort of a watch nut, (also probably be obsolete some day) I do have one that connects to my phone and can display many of the aforementioned functions. It's not an age thing, I have not seen 52 in a long time some folks just love technology and some don't. No right or wrong but as techies become the main source of income things will change accordingly.
Oh and no I don't forget my charger very often, but if I do they are easy to find. as for plugging it in a 5 volt charger uses very little energy, just be sure to unplug when not in use.

 

[carlbarry]

I'm sort of a watch nut, (also probably be obsolete some day) I do have one that connects to my phone and can display many of the aforementioned functions.

Why on Earth do you wear a watch? They are obsolete. Why would you want to glance at your wrist to see the time, when you could take your phone out of your holster, turn it on, look at the time, turn it off, and put it back in the holster? Are you a Luddite?
Wearing a watch is as backward as owning a clock! Who would want to glance at a clock, when they could reach for their phone, turn it on, look at it, turn it back off, and put it down, and then recharge it?

 

[BillPA]

I understand many can not tell time on an analog clock, so they must pull out the old cell phone, but the bed side clock was a digital.

 

[kittyab]

Wow this thread is still going strong.

 

[keishashadow]

I have a battery powered alarm clock. Bought to use on cruise ships years ago, stick ticking away lol.

It has dual purpose in that it has a large luminous dial. Nice in that you can raise or lower the intensity from point of totally off to bright. It can easily double as a nightlight. Weighs next to nothing, stays in the travel box and at least I don't have to worry if the guest before me set the alarm for 3 am as a giggle.

DH sets his iPhone, even better, a fail safe lol

 

[Micca]

Wow this thread is still going strong.

It's timely! And there's just some info you don't want to hear second hand.

 

[fishermouse]

Why on Earth do you wear a watch? They are obsolete. Why would you want to glance at your wrist to see the time, when you could take your phone out of your holster, turn it on, look at the time, turn it off, and put it back in the holster? Are you a Luddite?
Wearing a watch is as backward as owning a clock! Who would want to glance at a clock, when they could reach for their phone, turn it on, look at it, turn it back off, and put it down, and then recharge it?

As per your quote, I admitted I'm a watch nut, Simply put I like them, probably have close to 100, probably a dozen disney related. Lot easier to look down at your wrist than dig out your phone. Never said you should not have one in your house if you like, many are works of art. Just saying there is no longer a need to put them in hotel rooms.

 

[jerseygal]

It's not just DVC, I believe all the resorts are removing them. I bought a cheap one at a KMart closing to throw in my luggage. It's easier to just look at it rather than fiddling with your phone.

I also happen to like a clock. No big deal, but think I will rest better having a small alarm clock there.

 

[kittyab]

I like all clocks! Watches, on the wall, etc

 

[fishermouse]

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I love the delusion that using a clock in a phone "saves energy." First, the phone must be charged. It takes MORE electricity to charge the battery than to just run the phone via the charger.}
Been in this field for over 35 years, todays batteries are very efficient, if you plug in an alarm clock and a smart phone charger for the same amount of time the clock will use more energy. check the KWH on the label.

{ And oh yes, the charger is not 100 efficient in converting the AC to DC, so energy is wasted there, too.
alarm clocks also run on DC the AC from the outlet goes through an A/D before powering the clock. Most of todays electronics are DC. If your charger is hot you should replace it, that wasted energy is given off as heat and indicates a faulty or underrated charger. this is a potential fire hazard, you need to replace it.
And then when the battery dies when it has reached it charge/discharge/recharge limit, it must be discarded, recycled, and new battery built.}

Batteries are recycled and yes there is some waste but the technology is improving daily.
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{Compare all that to a clock radio that lasts perhaps 10 years. I wonder if the poster is using a 10 year old phone, or expects to ever keep a phone for 10 years?}
No probably 2-3 years tops, with the iphone 7 out it may be less, but I might wait for the 8 which is supposed to be the cats ***.

{Or is the poster talking about the energy required of the user? Because if I wake up at night, roll over, look at the clock, and then go back to sleep, it takes a LOT less energy than waking up, rolling over, grabbing the phone, activating the phone, putting the phone back down, and rolling back to sleep.}
Unless I plan on getting up I really don't care what time it is in the middle of the night, I'm sleeping

{I'll believe clocks are obsolete when I see businesses sending workers to take them down from walls.}
look around, there were clocks on every corner or store window, there are no where near as many as there were when I was a kid, you only see them in parks and historic districts it's sad because many of them were beautiful.
{Or maybe when Disney removes the clocks from the hot tubs, because, hey, everybody in the tub is sitting there with a phone.}
They have timers and yes a clock as required by law but I have never seen an alarm clock that is what we have been talking about or did you forget.