AK yesterday ---- dog in a stroller!!!

[chartle]

Someone I work with just returned from a Disney Cruise. She said there was a family on the ship that had a dog in a stroller/carrier with them the entire time. (Including INSIDE the restaurants!!!) She's filing a letter with the company to see their response.

Their response will most likely be that just like GA cards, Disney can not make the determination what is or isn't a service dog.

We have the same issue at my company dealing with dogs and taxi service.

 

[ntsammy5]

Are you sure it wasnt just a real ugly baby?

 

[PrincessKara22]

Is there a picture?!

 

[onyx8]

If it was a tiny little "service dog" in a pink stoller, I saw it at AK earlier this week...no comment.

 

[Tigge50447]

Someone I work with just returned from a Disney Cruise. She said there was a family on the ship that had a dog in a stroller/carrier with them the entire time. (Including INSIDE the restaurants!!!) She's filing a letter with the company to see their response.

where does the dog go to the bathroom on a ship? Just curious? Maybe it's potty trained as well, lol

 

[Bradsdadg]

Can dogs in ECVs be next?

If they can play poker, they can drive an ECV!!

Are you sure it wasnt just a real ugly baby?

 

[Safari Queen]

Bradsdadg, that's the best! These days, with all the things dogs are trained to support, Iincluding a lot of "invisible" conditions, we havea to just get over it. No one can say a therapy dog can't have a cute stroller or wear pink. However, I think most people would choose to have a tag so they stop getting poisoned stares.

 

[Letsbgoofy]

Are you sure it wasnt just a real ugly baby?

That would have been so much funnier if I hadn't just taken a sip of tea as I was reading it! Tea out my nose = ouch!

 

[AmberHeartsDisney]

sure it wasnt just a really hairy kid?

 

[chartle]

where does the dog go to the bathroom on a ship? Just curious? Maybe it's potty trained as well, lol

I had the same thought on the Autotrain. At least on a ship it could do its business somewhere out of the way on deck and it could be quickly hosed overboard.

On the train there are no stops where people can get off and its all enclosed.

 

[whitneyNC]

Their response will most likely be that just like GA cards, Disney can not make the determination what is or isn't a service dog.

We have the same issue at my company dealing with dogs and taxi service.

Yeah they can. Any business that forbids pets can ask for the dog's service dog credentials. At least a restaurant can. I worked at one in college with outdoor seating. People wanted to bring their dogs there, but we forbid it. It was the owner's choice. We of course let service dogs in or out. They had a card and were supposed to be wearing a vest or something. If it is a health issue, the allowing service dogs doesn't make sense. They're dogs. But very disciplined dogs. There is one at my church that is simply amazing. He is silent and never moves unless the owner does. He only relieves himself on command. Can a dog be working from a stroller? That's just weird.

I had the same thought on the Autotrain. At least on a ship it could do its business somewhere out of the way on deck and it could be quickly hosed overboard.

On the train there are no stops where people can get off and its all enclosed.

That's just gross. Going on the deck and hosing it overboard. I hope they would use a pee pad and dispose of it in a tied up plastic bag in the trash can just like on the autotrain.

 

[daraddg]

Are you sure it wasnt just a real ugly baby?

 

[livndisney]

Their response will most likely be that just like GA cards, Disney can not make the determination what is or isn't a service dog.

We have the same issue at my company dealing with dogs and taxi service.

This is not correct. A business CAN ask 1)If you are disabled. 2) Is this your service animal. 3) What is the animal TRAINED to do.

Even a true service animal can be removed if misbehaving. The guest would be allowed to return without the animal.

And I read somewhere that claiming a dog is a service animal when it is not is a Felony in some states.

 

[squirrel]

This is not correct. A business CAN ask 1)If you are disabled. 2) Is this your service animal. 3) What is the animal TRAINED to do.

Even a true service animal can be removed if misbehaving. The guest would be allowed to return without the animal.

And I read somewhere that claiming a dog is a service animal when it is not is a Felony in some states.

That's good to know. I was just thinking while reading the thread that people could start claiming their dogs as service animals to avoid having to use the kennel service.

 

[stargazertechie]

Any business that forbids pets can ask for the dog's service dog credentials. At least a restaurant can. I worked at one in college with outdoor seating. People wanted to bring their dogs there, but we forbid it. It was the owner's choice. We of course let service dogs in or out. They had a card and were supposed to be wearing a vest or something.

Actually, you don't have to present any "credentials", papers, identification, or certification, nor do they have to wear special ID tags, vests, or collars.

 

[cinderella73]

Actually, you don't have to present any "credentials", papers, identification, or certification, nor do they have to wear special ID tags, vests, or collars.

The poster above is correct. You dont have to. They can ask if the animal is a service dog and if it provides you assistance but nothing else . Not that they dont though. We have been hassled even having a vest , papers , and a well behaved regular lab dog . You would think some people never heard of a SD before .We always carry shot records , papers , and have a vest on our dog . Unless the heat is extreme then we will remove the dogs vest completly or put on a cooling vest to save the dog from having heat stroke.

Most of us with SD wouldnt mind a law to show ID . It can be really dangerous for our SD's when someone bring a fake SD in and he gets aggressive with our dogs. ( A properly trained SD will not show any aggression toward any other animals .) Its a shame that some people abuse the law like that.

 

[TisBit]

The poster above is correct. You dont have to. They can ask if the animal is a service dog and if it provides you assistance but nothing else . Not that they dont though. We have been hassled even having a vest , papers , and a well behaved regular lab dog . You would think some people never heard of a SD before .We always carry shot records , papers , and have a vest on our dog . Unless the heat is extreme then we will remove the dogs vest completly or put on a cooling vest to save the dog from having heat stroke.

Most of us with SD wouldnt mind a law to show ID . It can be really dangerous for our SD's when someone bring a fake SD in and he gets aggressive with our dogs. ( A properly trained SD will not show any aggression toward any other animals .) Its a shame that some people abuse the law like that.

I am glad you posted that, there are a lot of people out there that are so enraged that a SD should have to have paperwork or any type of credentials to certify it. I would think that most people that require these types of dogs would encourage it, with all the people that do claim their pets are SD's, etc.

A line has definitely been blurred when people can claim their family pet is a SD for anxiety and other disorders. SD's should be properly trained and certified in order to enter establishments and protect both the person with the disability and others. If the SD industry was more properly regulated, I would think that persons with disabilities would benefit from a lot of the scammers being weeded out.

 

[livndisney]

The poster above is correct. You dont have to. They can ask if the animal is a service dog and if it provides you assistance but nothing else . Not that they dont though. We have been hassled even having a vest , papers , and a well behaved regular lab dog . You would think some people never heard of a SD before .We always carry shot records , papers , and have a vest on our dog . Unless the heat is extreme then we will remove the dogs vest completly or put on a cooling vest to save the dog from having heat stroke.

Most of us with SD wouldnt mind a law to show ID . It can be really dangerous for our SD's when someone bring a fake SD in and he gets aggressive with our dogs. ( A properly trained SD will not show any aggression toward any other animals .) Its a shame that some people abuse the law like that.

Once again-this (bolded is not correct). You can be asked three things-
Are you disabled?
Is this your service animal?
What is the animal TRAINED to do to assist you?

There are no registrations, no requirements for vests etc.

 

[sandym718]

Wow, I'm surprised that an ID/papers cannot be required. Seems simple and like it wouldn't be an issue to someone who truly has a SD!

I'm not all that familiar with service dogs, of course I know about them for the visually impaired and I've heard of those for seizures. Are there others? I'm wondering how a SD in a stroller (if that's what it truly was) would work? I'm thinking of a regular baby stroller, facing away from the owner - maybe that's not how that was? Because I would think for a dog to be of Service, they would have to be able to See the owner? Is that right or are there other types where they're only needed in certain situations?

 

[cinderella73]

I am glad you posted that, there are a lot of people out there that are so enraged that a SD should have to have paperwork or any type of credentials to certify it. I would think that most people that require these types of dogs would encourage it, with all the people that do claim their pets are SD's, etc.

A line has definitely been blurred when people can claim their family pet is a SD for anxiety and other disorders. SD's should be properly trained and certified in order to enter establishments and protect both the person with the disability and others. If the SD industry was more properly regulated, I would think that persons with disabilities would benefit from a lot of the scammers being weeded out.

It is a bit tricky thoughI must admit. I think thats why the ADA has not decided to enforce it . I can see a lot of paperwork , multiple fees , red tape , and so on being really hard on a lot of people when they are already struggling with so much. If it was something they kept simple and affordable it would be perfect. But with goverment those things are rarely ever simple. So I do understand why a lot of people would worry.

Its just also hard when you have a aggressive untrained service dog running toward your fifteen thousand dollar ( and up) dog and you have to step in front of your dog to protect him ( if you can) .

So I can see all sides. I just wish they could find a even ground to make it easier on the people who really need the SD's .