Airtran and 61" max luggage size

dudspizza

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Has Airtran always been 61" for checked bags or has there been a change in the last couple of years? We are traveling with another family and when I told him to measure his bags, he asked me if the policy had changed since he has used this same luggage at least 3 other times on Airtran.

I told him I would ask......

Duds
 
We flew Airtran in March 2009 and Sept/Oct 2009 and both times the max was 61.
 
I think it might have been a larger number a few years a ago. I have a really large bag that is about 64" that I took on AT back around 2008. The allowed weigh was also higher...70lbs. Last year I found an old orange AT tag in the outside pocket of the bag that said it was 'heavy' and written on it was 66lbs.
 
i flew with same bag at least twice on AT, only last summer was a measuring tape whipped out (in the business lane no less) @ PIT

I was proclaimed over the limit by less than an inch due to the wheels being included in the measurement.:confused3

just happy i had a credit in my account to cover 'the ding':rolleyes:
 

Can't speak how long it has been in effect only that they do sometimes measure. As the PP stated it is from bottom to top (wheels to handle). They measured mine in BOS and we just made it; glad I didn't stuff it!
 
It was larger last year because we were able to fly with our big suitcases. It's back down to 61.
 
i flew with same bag at least twice on AT, only last summer was a measuring tape whipped out (in the business lane no less) @ PIT

I was proclaimed over the limit by less than an inch due to the wheels being included in the measurement.:confused3

just happy i had a credit in my account to cover 'the ding':rolleyes:

I fly Air Tran several times a year and usually use the same duffel. The bag has never even been glanced at as far as I know, until this past Dec. That day they were measuring any bag that even looked close. Not only that, but they weren't measuring them accurately either. They leaned the duffel up against the wall, (where they weigh the bags) and if your bag didn't stand up straight, which mine didn't, then they included the lean in their width measurements (which since they measured the width at the bottom from the wall outward, meant they were including the space between the wall and the bag). Also if anything in the bag fell toward the bottom making the bottom bulge out, they measured from the bulge area straight out, then straight up (even if the top part of the bag was then empty and sinking inward. They also included the wheels and even the soft cloth handle that stuck up just a tad on the top of the bag. My bag is easily within their limits, but that day it was very close because of the way they measured it. However, the people in front of us were told that all three of their bags were too big. They were arguing that they had always used those same bags and they had never had a problem, that the bags were less than 61", and it was just the way they were measuring them that was a problem. They too had soft rolling duffle bags like I did. From what I could see, it was the fact that they were including space that the bag was not actually taking up that was the problem (again the empty space between the wall and bag at the lean and how once they measured low from the wall outward to include both that space and any bulges where stuff fell to the bottom of the bag, they then pulled the tape straight up basically measuring nothing but empty space, since the top of the duffel was then empty).
 
I fly Air Tran several times a year and usually use the same duffel. The bag has never even been glanced at as far as I know, until this past Dec. That day they were measuring any bag that even looked close. Not only that, but they weren't measuring them accurately either. They leaned the duffel up against the wall, (where they weigh the bags) and if your bag didn't stand up straight, which mine didn't, then they included the lean in their width measurements (which since they measured the width at the bottom from the wall outward, meant they were including the space between the wall and the bag). Also if anything in the bag fell toward the bottom making the bottom bulge out, they measured from the bulge area straight out, then straight up (even if the top part of the bag was then empty and sinking inward. They also included the wheels and even the soft cloth handle that stuck up just a tad on the top of the bag. My bag is easily within their limits, but that day it was very close because of the way they measured it. However, the people in front of us were told that all three of their bags were too big. They were arguing that they had always used those same bags and they had never had a problem, that the bags were less than 61", and it was just the way they were measuring them that was a problem. They too had soft rolling duffle bags like I did. From what I could see, it was the fact that they were including space that the bag was not actually taking up that was the problem (again the empty space between the wall and bag at the lean and how once they measured low from the wall outward to include both that space and any bulges where stuff fell to the bottom of the bag, they then pulled the tape straight up basically measuring nothing but empty space, since the top of the duffel was then empty).


1. The "emtpy top of the duffle" still counts as part of the measurement
2. The "bulge" counts as part of the measurement
3. The wheels count as part of the measurement
4. The handles count as part of the measurement

Items 2-4 are NOT counted by the luggage manufacturers meaning that the "perfect size" suitcase they sold you is REALLY too big. So if your bag is "easily" inside the limit based on the manufacture's sizing... it may very well NOT be within and if it bulges out then that gets measured!

On TripAdvisor last week an airline employee posted details of how his company plans to deal with rising fuel costs. High on that list making employees enfore bag size and weight limits!


The fact that you may have "gotten" away with an oversize bag in the past is NOT really relevant!
 
1. The "emtpy top of the duffle" still counts as part of the measurement
2. The "bulge" counts as part of the measurement
3. The wheels count as part of the measurement
4. The handles count as part of the measurement

Items 2-4 are NOT counted by the luggage manufacturers meaning that the "perfect size" suitcase they sold you is REALLY too big. So if your bag is "easily" inside the limit based on the manufacture's sizing... it may very well NOT be within and if it bulges out then that gets measured!

On TripAdvisor last week an airline employee posted details of how his company plans to deal with rising fuel costs. High on that list making employees enfore bag size and weight limits!

The fact that you may have "gotten" away with an oversize bag in the past is NOT really relevant!

I guess I didn't explain it too well. I'm fully aware of what counts as part of the measurement and have no problem with it, but they were leaning the duffels against the wall with the base of the bag a good 4" away from the wall, then measuring from the base of the wall out to the edge of the bulge, then straight up through empty air to where the handle would be. If they had just taken the tape measure and actually touched the bag and measured over the cloth part of the bag it would be one thing, but other than touching the wall and coming straight across the base of the bag, they never even touched the bag itself. They were holding the tape measure well away from the bag and measuring clear space. That duffel is not an extra large one, plus it has the straps to tighten it up making the height shorter. That's why I bought it--I've measured it full, but not stuffed (even adding 2" to my measurements as a cushion) and it's still well below the 61" measurement (including wheels and handle). That day, all that was in that duffel was a 18" packing folder (that was not packed anywhere near full), a toiletry bag, and two pairs of flip flops. I carry most of my stuff in my carry on (which is also legal size and fit's easily in all the overheads wheels first. lol). That checked duffel was maybe just a tad over half full that day, so I had those straps tightened making it very flat. It's a good thing I did, because with them leaning it against the wall and including that empty space between the wall and the base of the bag, they were adding a good 4" to the measurement, then instead of running the tape measure up and along the length of the bag, they just pulled the tape measure straight up, so at the top they were a good 6"-8" from touching the material of the bag. Again maybe you had to be there that morning, but they were measuring most bags including ones like mine that were nowhere near 61", but somehow they were coming up with absurdly large measurements. Granted some bags were oversized and needed to be measured, but alot were obviously legal size and people were being told they were not. I fly Air Tran several times a year and have never seen them like they were that morning. That duffel bag had never even received a second glance in the past as it's quite obviously smaller than most people's checked bag. That why I was surprised when they said they were measuring it. I purposely downsized my bags a few years ago to make sure I wouldn't have to worry about oversized or overweight bags, getting bags that were easily below the maximum size allowed.

Again even with the way they measured it, adding in that empty space between the wall and where the bag actually started, the bag came in below the 61", so obviously it is not too big, but with the lean measurement being added to it and with them not carrying the tape measure along the cloth itself to measure the length, it still came closer than I like. I know they don't, but if they had measured it sitting flat, it wouldn't have been even close. Because of liquids in the toiletry bag and always having a few odds and ends that don't fit in my carryon, I always check it.
 
This is exactly why I am scared to death to fly Airtran now. These baggage nazi issues they have are ridiculous. My biggest bag measures 61" exactly so I already know I can't use because they will just add their bogus measurements to it. Now I have to figure out how to pack thin and light in a smaller bag. It's annoying.
 
This is exactly why I am scared to death to fly Airtran now. These baggage nazi issues they have are ridiculous. My biggest bag measures 61" exactly so I already know I can't use because they will just add their bogus measurements to it. Now I have to figure out how to pack thin and light in a smaller bag. It's annoying.

Umm...

It's not just AirTran. They are ALL cracking down. (The employee who posted part of his internal company memorandum.. does NOT work for AirTran!)

If you think your bag is "exactly" 61" chances are it's bigger. Did you include wheels/handles? Did you include the fact that after you pack the thing it top "bulges" out a little etc. It's as packed with wheels/handles. Not as sold by the manufacturer.
 
I know I am including wheels, handles everything and I am at 60-61". I posted in another thread that I wasn't worried about it, but now I am. I am considering returning my bag for a slightly smaller one......

DW has suggested that we actually drive down to MSP this weekend and have them measure to tell us if it works.....

Duds
 
This is exactly why I am scared to death to fly Airtran now. These baggage nazi issues they have are ridiculous. My biggest bag measures 61" exactly so I already know I can't use because they will just add their bogus measurements to it. Now I have to figure out how to pack thin and light in a smaller bag. It's annoying.

I know I am including wheels, handles everything and I am at 60-61". I posted in another thread that I wasn't worried about it, but now I am. I am considering returning my bag for a slightly smaller one......

DW has suggested that we actually drive down to MSP this weekend and have them measure to tell us if it works.....

Duds

I flew AirTran with a bag that measured 61" and it was not a problem. Just don't overstuff it because if it bulges it will increase the bag beyond 61". The measurements are not bogus. If your bag is 62" including the wheels and the space it needs to fit in is only 61" it will not fit (just using those measurements as an example). So, measure the bag from the wheels to the soft handles. They use one of those soft tape measures that you measure your waist with. I have no problems with them enforcing their rules at all.
 
I know I am including wheels, handles everything and I am at 60-61". I posted in another thread that I wasn't worried about it, but now I am. I am considering returning my bag for a slightly smaller one......

DW has suggested that we actually drive down to MSP this weekend and have them measure to tell us if it works.....

Duds

This is what we thought we would do, LEX is just about 15 min from our house so would not be that far out of the way. We did fly with Airtran last October on our return flight last year and used RAC so never dwelt with Airtran directly. We packed in smaller bags due to fear but had to check a third bag to make up the difference. Would love to just check 2 for the 5 of us for 12 days (yes, we will do laundry half way).

Just wondering if I get it cleared then show back up a month later and a different person checks us in will we still have a problem?
 
My memory is Airtran was at 62" down to 61" back up to 62" and now back down to 61". There is a site that has old contract of carriage's, I don't know the URL, if you want confirmation.

I thought your new bag was too close to 61" to keep.

Airlines used to let bags that were a few pounds overweight slide. Airline didn't bother measuring bags unless they were obviously too big. A tipped skycap used to let almost anything slide.

You have to assume your bag will be weighed and probably measured. The fee for an overweight or oversized bag is usually greater then the cost to check a second bag. The cost for a bag that's overweight and oversized may be higher then the cost of your ticket.

Many of us could use new luggage. Smaller and lighter.
 
Just wondering if I get it cleared then show back up a month later and a different person checks us in will we still have a problem?

My thoughts as well...
 
My memory is Airtran was at 62" down to 61" back up to 62" and now back down to 61". There is a site that has old contract of carriage's, I don't know the URL, if you want confirmation.

I thought your new bag was too close to 61" to keep.

Airlines used to let bags that were a few pounds overweight slide. Airline didn't bother measuring bags unless they were obviously too big. A tipped skycap used to let almost anything slide.

You have to assume your bag will be weighed and probably measured. The fee for an overweight or oversized bag is usually greater then the cost to check a second bag. The cost for a bag that's overweight and oversized may be higher then the cost of your ticket.

Many of us could use new luggage. Smaller and lighter.

Yeah, I was confident that it was close, but was going to make it... the more times I measure it, the more times I see margin for interpretation of the dimensions, depending on who measures...... now I am not so confident as our trip approaches......

I may return the bag (tags are still on it) and get one an inch or two smaller just to make sure it fits....

Duds
 
Yeah, I was confident that it was close, but was going to make it... the more times I measure it, the more times I see margin for interpretation of the dimensions, depending on who measures...... now I am not so confident as our trip approaches......

I may return the bag (tags are still on it) and get one an inch or two smaller just to make sure it fits....

Duds

You're going to interpret/round the numbers one way and the airline employee will probably go the other way.

Might as well get a bag that's lighter and smaller.

You can usually transfer, or discard something if your bag is overweight. Not much choice if your told your bag is oversized. What credit card will you be using? You don't like the way I measured your bag... I'm sorry you don't agree. Will you be paying the fee for your oversized bag or will you be leaving it behind.

Duds--You know this but for others reading this thread.....Airtran charges $25 for a second checked bag (within size and weight limits). Airtran charges an extra $49 if the bag is 62"-70" and an extra $49 if the bag is 51-70 lbs. A 62" bag weight 52 pounds will cost $98 in addition to the $20 normal fee.

Some people need to just bit the bullet and pay for a second checked bag for at least one family member. Others need to bite the bullet and replace their luggage. Newer lightweight luggage weighs under 10 lbs empty. Older luggage can weigh close to 20lbs empty.
 
You're going to interpret/round the numbers one way and the airline employee will probably go the other way.

Might as well get a bag that's lighter and smaller.

You can usually transfer, or discard something if your bag is overweight. Not much choice if your told your bag is oversized. What credit card will you be using? You don't like the way I measured your bag... I'm sorry you don't agree. Will you be paying the fee for your oversized bag or will you be leaving it behind.

The last thing I want to do is start off a trip like that.

Duds
 
Umm...

It's not just AirTran. They are ALL cracking down. (The employee who posted part of his internal company memorandum.. does NOT work for AirTran!)

If you think your bag is "exactly" 61" chances are it's bigger. Did you include wheels/handles? Did you include the fact that after you pack the thing it top "bulges" out a little etc. It's as packed with wheels/handles. Not as sold by the manufacturer.

I said in my post I wasn't going to use it because of the risk of it being slightly too big. I'm just as irritated with the luggage manufacurers always making everything right up to the limit.

But this allowing it to lean to get more inches added on is a bunch of bull.
 












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