(When) will DVC go “negative”?

[Girlstar30]

And no washer dryer in your 1 bed. And no towels at the pool. It just doesn’t feel deluxe.

Ima keep my mouth shut about the casitas

 

[muppets3d]

And no washer dryer in your 1 bed. And no towels at the pool. It just doesn’t feel deluxe.

And the drawer next to the stove hits the stove's handle when you open it.

 

[Girlstar30]

Your posts prompted me to run a few comparisons.

7/19-7/26 at RIV:
Deluxe Studio, Resort View, Cash Rate with 40% AP Discount - $3,422; Dues cost - $1,181; Savings of $2,241
1 BR, Preferred View (Resort view unavailable), Cash Rate with 40% AP Discount - $5,698; Dues cost - $3,364; Savings of $2,334

7/19-7/26 at CCV:
Deluxe Studio, Cash Rate with 30% Discount - $2,889; Dues cost - $1,091; Savings of $1,798
1 BR, Cash Rate with 30% Discount - $4,774; Dues cost - $2,219; Savings of $2,555

Of course, playing with the dates just a bit, very clear that owning would provide much more flexibility with respect to which dates are available. Plenty of dates just don't show any availability for the heavily discounted rates. And, it does seem like these heavy discounts are primarily targeted at the summer timeframe which, well, I'm not opposed to a summer trip to WDW, but it is a bit like living on the surface of the sun for a few days . TBH, I think some of this really argues in favor of points chart adjustments. Summer should be less points. December should be more, especially early December. That would probably go a long ways to addressing some of the issues with spec renting too.

Dont tell dvc that, I dont want to go during the summer

 

[muppets3d]

Dont tell dvc that, I dont want to go during the summer

These promos have been fairly evergreen lately, not quite 40% but still nobody is paying rack rate at WDW anymore.

 

[Girlstar30]

These promos have been fairly evergreen lately, not quite 40% but still nobody is paying rack rate at WDW anymore.

I wouldnt pay rack rate either, studio costs are ridiculous. I would not pay $900 to stay at any

 

[Cfabar1]

If they get their act together after its cash only im going to be very irritated...

I think January would be. great time to shut down HHI...

VB on the other hand, I could imagine them saying "let's get the cash rates through season and shut down in the summer". They could keep the main building open, and maybe a couple of villas.

 

[Girlstar30]

I think January would be. great time to shut down HHI...

VB on the other hand, I could imagine them saying "let's get the cash rates through season and shut down in the summer". They could keep the main building open, and maybe a couple of villas.

I want to stay in the cottages before that happens

 

[BrianLo]

I’ve said it before but I think LSL is going to come in between RIV and PIT. But, I don’t think it’s on account of point inflation. I think Disney will find a way to sell it whether that be the lazy river, the large size of the resort/rooms, possible increased options with CFW, and simply being a completely brand new MK resort (not just an addition or conversion).

The trouble is the CFW provides an anchor. Those units are priced in between RIV and Poly. If they join together as is predicted that is (though I have my doubts).

 

[BrianLo]

The first resort to hit zero will be VB, but I have my doubts if anything else will outside of year 46+ when closing fees and transfer fees erode value. If they find a way to solve CFW maintenance fees, it will just leave VB.

I disagree that RIV falls like the pessimists think it would. In fact, I think a resale RIV is about the safest thing you can acquire if you want your money back in 30 years. At a certain point the rental market prevents it from collapsing to nothing.