Air Marshall Kills Passenger

[CapeCodTenor]

unfrortunately that was not an option, they are trained to kill, when someone is suspected of having a bomb, a head shot is the only option, shooting elsewhere could trigger the bomb, shooting to immobilize is not an option , if the person has a bomb that is rigged with a switch you can not allow them to push the button, therefore the instant kill is the only option...


the MArshall did exactly what he was trained to do, and although tragic, should be commended for doing his job..

Couldn't have said it better myself. And I still say he did his job.

 

[RitaZ.]

I understand that the U.S. Marshall was doing his job, but it's still a tragedy. Those that say "we are sorry for the loss, but the Air Marshall was doing his job", I wonder if you would accept that reasoning if it was your husband, wife, mother, father or child that was shot to death. Somehow, I doubt it.

 

[jajuan]

I am so tired of the media sensationalizing the mental illness and questioning whether or not the air marshall should have shot. Of course he should have...that is his job and I feel safer flying. I do feel sorry for the family, but there was no choice.

My DS12 will ask me questions at the airport about safety and such and if he even tried to mention the word bomb...I tell him not to say it at all...other people may not hear the rest of our conversation...but get scared about hearing the word.

 

[perdidobay]

The air marshall did what he was trained to do and had to do..... take out a threat to 180 other people.... immobilizing would not have done the job, if there was indeed a bomb... and he had no way to know for sure if there was or wasn't.

Sad, but even a mentally ill patient and his family have to take some responsibity for the lack of good judgement to not be medicted and to get on an airplane in this day and age.

 

[momof2inPA]

Maybe the mentally ill man ran out of medication while he was on his mission trip. Maybe his medication or a similar drug was not available in Peru. We just don't know. I don't blame the marshall. I don't blame the family, or the mentally ill man. It was just an unfortunate situation.

 

[MICKEY88]

I understand that the U.S. Marshall was doing his job, but it's still a tragedy. Those that say "we are sorry for the loss, but the Air Marshall was doing his job", I wonder if you would accept that reasoning if it was your husband, wife, mother, father or child that was shot to death. Somehow, I doubt it.

I saw a report this morning where the wife said he had not taken his medicine and did not want to fly, but she made him do it, she said it was her fault.

 

[Wish I lived in Fl]

My youngest sister is mentally ill and wandering the U.S. She won't take her meds. We can do nothing short of kidnapping her and keeping her prisoner in our house. I'm not willing to risk jail and leaving my kids. She was picked up incoherent by police once and kept in restraints for a week and a half. On leaving the facility she demanded that her medical information not be released to her family. Otherwise we would have tried to get a protective order of some sort.

So- we wait to hear if/when she is hospitalized or dies on the street.

Yes, it is a tragedy.
Yes, the Air Marshall was doing his job.
Yes, I would feel the same way if it was my sister.

 

[BelleMcNally]

I saw a report this morning where the wife said he had not taken his medicine and did not want to fly, but she made him do it, she said it was her fault.

Oh man...that is sad. I can't imagine how she must be feeling.

 

[shamrock bunch]

I am appalled at how many of you say "the marshall was doing his job"! There was no need to kill him, he should have shot to immobilize.

My DH is a Federal Marshal (f.y.i. - it's only one "L") and is trained to act in a split second. If the guy was crazy and the immobilization didn't slow him down, he could have still set off a bomb.


And RitaZ, the family has to understand in this day and age, yes you will be shot if you run screaming on a plane that you have a bomb and don't listen to authorities to stop.

 

[RitaZ.]

And RitaZ, the family has to understand in this day and age, yes you will be shot if you run screaming on a plane that you have a bomb and don't listen to authorities to stop.

How understanding would you be if it was your husband? That was really my point.

 

[cardaway]

I understand that the U.S. Marshall was doing his job, but it's still a tragedy. Those that say "we are sorry for the loss, but the Air Marshall was doing his job", I wonder if you would accept that reasoning if it was your husband, wife, mother, father or child that was shot to death. Somehow, I doubt it.

In my family I have both police officers who have shot people because they had no choice (grandfather and father) and lost somebody because they were shot by an officer doing his job (cousin).

You accept the reasoning because it is correct. Those family members that lash out at the police are the sad ones.

I'm always sorry for their loss, but I doubt they accept the reasoning if somebody they loved was killed because an officer did NOT act.

 

[MICKEY88]

How understanding would you be if it was your husband? That was really my point.

having several close friends who are bipolar, and having been with them when they went off of their meds, and seeing the irrational behaviour they were capable of, no way in the world would I take them anywhere near an airport in that condition..

 

[shamrock bunch]

How understanding would you be if it was your husband? That was really my point.

I don't think I would let my DH board a plane or even be in an airport if he didn't have his medication.

I AM grateful that people like my DH are trained to defend people that could have been harmed in that situation. What if that guy ran towards the White House? What do you think Marshals, Secret Service and the FBI are trained to do??

 

[ckay87]

I understand that the U.S. Marshall was doing his job, but it's still a tragedy. Those that say "we are sorry for the loss, but the Air Marshall was doing his job", I wonder if you would accept that reasoning if it was your husband, wife, mother, father or child that was shot to death. Somehow, I doubt it.

I can safely say that if it were my family member I would completely accept that reasoning. Not to say I wouldn't be devastated, but I wouldn't for one minute blame the Air Marshal. I would consider it suicide.

 

[JPN4265]

I wonder if the Marshall heard the wife say anything. How sad for everyone.

It does not matter if the wife was screaming that her husband was bi-poler or not. They could have both been involved in a homicide bombing, no one knew for certain. All they knew was that a man was running through the airplane and jetway screaming that he had a bomb. I would take him for his word and then take him out. Hesitation could have killed a lot of innocent people. The air-marshall's did the only thing they could have done given the circumstances.

 

[RitaZ.]

Great! I guess you all have it planned and are prepared in case the same happens directly to you.

 

[HoneyPooh]

Sounds like this man's wife DOES understand completely. If she doesn't blame the air marshal why would we? Things can definitely be tragic and necessary/unavoidable at the same time.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

Great! I guess you all have it planned and are prepared in case the same happens directly to you.

Let me ask you; if you were on that flight and this happened, except in he had a bomb and it went off because the air marshal didn't shoot to kill, would you be mad if your husband/wife was killed because he wasn't fully stopped?

 

[shamrock bunch]

Let me ask you; if you were on that flight and this happened, except in he had a bomb and it went off because the air marshal didn't shoot to kill, would you be mad if your husband/wife was killed because he wasn't fully stopped?

Thank you!!! Enough said.

 

[MICKEY88]

Great! I guess you all have it planned and are prepared in case the same happens directly to you.

I don't think anyone could be prepared for this, but being mature and logical/reasonable if it happens, yes I would be.

the bottom line is, everybody knows the changes that have been made since 9-11


the Marshals are highly trained , if they aren't supposed to do their job, what is the point of having them...???