Adults Only?

[aan1701]

I know for a fact you where not in Diversions when he stopped Clayton from asking a man and his two young kids to leave the venue about a hour before Pub Night began. He literary stopped him. I will never forget what I overheard next. It is etched in my head. Brent said "It's not a big deal that the kids are in here. Let them be". Really from the CD? Sorry Diversions after 9 is a Adults only venue. And Pub Night is something kids should not be at. Yes the cruise was great as a whole and it obviously did not affect the way I look at DCL as a cruise line just made me dislike a CD. That's all.

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[disneyholic family]

I know this is an old quote of yours, but I totally agree with this. We did a 3-night cruise in September last year, and the only reason we did it was because it was the 2nd half of a B2B. Horrible guest behavior, and certainly not the Disney cruises we are used to. I exchanged glances with a crew member over some pretty obnoxious, entitled behavior, and we chatted about it later in passing. He said it was a problem on shorter cruises, especially in Fall. Apparently: cheap prices + a short weekend trip = not-your-usual Disney dynamic.

We will not be doing another 3-night cruise.

Back on topic, I have a problem with kids "checking in" with their parents at the Quiet Cove Pool. Not all agree with this, but a constant stream of kids checking in with various parents for a minute or two at a time doesn't make for an adult environment. Sorry, but there are better places to arrange a check in with your little than the adult pool, especially when kid whines he wants a smoothie, and mom says no, and kids continues to whine and cry.... Even if it's just for a minute. This seems to have subsided a bit with the introduction of wave phones, thankfully.

how was your 4 night cruise? better than the 3 night?

i'm taking my 85 year mother and 62 year old sister on a 4 night in october and i am now so worried....
i'm a little bit sorry i couldn't get us a cruise on RCCL, but the only nice ships are on the 7 night route and they didn't have 7 nights to spare for a cruise...
at least RCCL has the solarium...

i really hope it's ok on the Dream....i so want this to be perfect for them!!

 

[AlexandNessa]

how was your 4 night cruise? better than the 3 night?

i'm taking my 85 year mother and 62 year old sister on a 4 night in october and i am now so worried....
i'm a little bit sorry i couldn't get us a cruise on RCCL, but the only nice ships are on the 7 night route and they didn't have 7 nights to spare for a cruise...
at least RCCL has the solarium...

i really hope it's ok on the Dream....i so want this to be perfect for them!!

We've done three 4-night cruises. Night and day over the 3-night in our opinion. Not that the 4-nights are my favorite, but the sea day helps people slow down and relax a bit more, IMO. I think the 3-nights are just so short that folks are stressed trying to get everything in they want to do. Also, we were in concierge, and admittedly that was a fairly cheap cruise. I could not get over the requests some guests demanded of the concierge and bartender. Just my experience. Not to hijack the thread; feel free to PM me if you need more info.

 

[nordkin]

Nope the same Brent that everyone here loves and I think I am the only one here who dislikes him. By the way I dislike anyone who lies to my face.

We do not care for him either as he has done the same to us on the same topic as well as another topic that is not relevant to this thread.

 

[DMMarla07860]

I know for a fact you where not in Diversions when he stopped Clayton from asking a man and his two young kids to leave the venue about a hour before Pub Night began. He literary stopped him. I will never forget what I overheard next. It is etched in my head. Brent said "It's not a big deal that the kids are in here. Let them be". Really from the CD? Sorry Diversions after 9 is a Adults only venue. And Pub Night is something kids should not be at. Yes the cruise was great as a whole and it obviously did not affect the way I look at DCL as a cruise line just made me dislike a CD. That's all.

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Oh I agree, though I have seen worse cruises where kids in adult areas, so after cruising 16 times(17 after my cruise coming in a few weeks) can say that same cruise was one of the better ones for no kids in adult areas. But you were lied to so that can put a sour taste in your mouth

 

[DVCNuts]

We will be on DCL cruise #9 in September (9/20) and it is our first 3-night. Just the two of us, celebrating our 25th. We linked up with some other couples through the DIS meet, most about the same age. I am sort of looking forward to seeing this outrageous behavior I have read so much about-- in a train wreck sort of way. We did a 5-night double dip this summer, and never noticed a problem. We'll be hanging in the adult areas for the most part. I am anticipating there won't be that many kids on the cruise compared to the summertime or spring break. Whatever happens, we won't let it ruin our trip. It's just a different kind of entertainment.

 

[disneyholic family]

We've done three 4-night cruises. Night and day over the 3-night in our opinion. Not that the 4-nights are my favorite, but the sea day helps people slow down and relax a bit more, IMO. I think the 3-nights are just so short that folks are stressed trying to get everything in they want to do. Also, we were in concierge, and admittedly that was a fairly cheap cruise. I could not get over the requests some guests demanded of the concierge and bartender. Just my experience. Not to hijack the thread; feel free to PM me if you need more info.

i hope the 4 day works out..
i've been on a 3 day and a 4 day, but that was years and years ago..

this is my first time on the dream...we'll also be concierge, but i'm expecting a lot of port upgrades (there are only 5 rooms in concierge booked at this point and we're just over 2 months from the cruise )....i'm guessing that the demands of the concierge staff will be higher than normal as well as the use of the lounge...
i hope it's ok....i want it to be perfect for my mom and sister..

 

[Guineveree]

Long time lurker, but thought I'd add my 2cents to this thread.

I have been on a 7 days Fantasy cruise last June. With the new configuration at the front of the ship with Satellite Falls, there were none of the "family traffic," as we were in a dead-end. I saw no problems whatsoever in that adult area. All the people I've seen there appeared to be over 18 and relaxing with a good book or snoozing under the sun (I recall seeing a girl that looked barely 18 and entranced in her 50 Shades of Grey book... ). Personally the family traffic didn't bother me in the least as parents were for the most part doing a great job at policing their own roost (thank you to all of the moms and dads!!). On the other hand, on my first cruise back in 2010, I took a 3 night sailing and I agree that the crowd was a bit unruly, and that was across the board: families ignoring the signs that certain areas were for 18+, as well as adults making a spectacle of themselves (as a PP said, I did relate to the "train wreck watching")..

Net net is that if something is truly annoying and parents aren't doing the right thing, then just like any rules in life that are imposed for those who can't find the impulse to follow from within, I would think it's perfectly ok to inform a CM and have him/her enforce said rules.

 

[mmackeymouse]

At the adult cabaret show last time there was a toddler and a baby snoozing in a stroller in the club and no CM said anything. I thought it was a bit inappropriate, but that is just my opinion and they weren't bothering anyone.

Actually, that was not your opinion. It was fact. Child in adult area/function equals inappropriate. The whole "they weren't bothering anyone" thing (not just from you but anyone) is wrong as well. I find myself falling prey to it as well. Rules are rules, and they apply whether the child acts like an angel or is screaming their heads off. Rules are rules, and they apply to the kids who quietly blend in without notice and the ones that run around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Example: On our cruise, there were a couple of teens who got into one of the adult hot tubs. They probably COULD have been 18. But, they acted very much like young teens. I wouldn't say they were behaving badly; but they were giggly and loud, and well, teenagers. One of the CMs did come and explain to them they had to leave the area. They either didn't understand English or they pretended not to. This went on for a while of him trying to get them to leave and them being/acting oblivious. Eventually, they did leave the adult area. I felt a lot of respect for the CM but found myself rather annoyed at the young girls.

Similarly, there was a boy, pre-teen or young teens maybe. His family was sitting in the first row of loungers, and he came into the adult area. He sat down on the pool ledge, faced the loungers, and spoke to them for a while, 15 minutes maybe. No CMs ever approached them. Now, he wasn't causing any trouble, so at the time, I didn't think much of it. But, after the fact, I kind of scolded myself on my line of thinking, because they both broke the rules. One is not better than the other.

This is NOT Disney's fault. This rests squarely on the shoulders of the adults who feel entitled to ignore common courtesy, even when Disney has to spell it out. Sadly, as elsewhere in society, you'll find it on the ships.

This reminds me so much of the argument about who to blame for badly behaved children- the teachers or the parents. I disagree with your assessment. While I would not say it is Disney's fault persay, I would say they do share a certain amount of responsibility. Yes, parents are at fault for not teaching their children to follow the rules, behave appropriately, and what not. BUT, Disney should enforce their own rules. If they let things go, such as MDR dress code and children in adult areas, they have themselves to blame for people not following said rules. DCL does have every responsibility to all of its guests to enforce their policies on board.

So, instead of the back and forth of whose fault it is, I'd like to leave it at: everyone is responsible from the parents teaching their children to do the right thing to DCL enforcing their own rules.

 

[Clotho]

"It takes a village," is a popular platitude, but most Americans cause friction when it is put into practice. I miss accountability...

 

[disneyholic family]

Actually, that was not your opinion. It was fact. Child in adult area/function equals inappropriate. The whole "they weren't bothering anyone" thing (not just from you but anyone) is wrong as well. I find myself falling prey to it as well. Rules are rules, and they apply whether the child acts like an angel or is screaming their heads off. Rules are rules, and they apply to the kids who quietly blend in without notice and the ones that run around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Example: On our cruise, there were a couple of teens who got into one of the adult hot tubs. They probably COULD have been 18. But, they acted very much like young teens. I wouldn't say they were behaving badly; but they were giggly and loud, and well, teenagers. One of the CMs did come and explain to them they had to leave the area. They either didn't understand English or they pretended not to. This went on for a while of him trying to get them to leave and them being/acting oblivious. Eventually, they did leave the adult area. I felt a lot of respect for the CM but found myself rather annoyed at the young girls.

Similarly, there was a boy, pre-teen or young teens maybe. His family was sitting in the first row of loungers, and he came into the adult area. He sat down on the pool ledge, faced the loungers, and spoke to them for a while, 15 minutes maybe. No CMs ever approached them. Now, he wasn't causing any trouble, so at the time, I didn't think much of it. But, after the fact, I kind of scolded myself on my line of thinking, because they both broke the rules. One is not better than the other.



This reminds me so much of the argument about who to blame for badly behaved children- the teachers or the parents. I disagree with your assessment. While I would not say it is Disney's fault persay, I would say they do share a certain amount of responsibility. Yes, parents are at fault for not teaching their children to follow the rules, behave appropriately, and what not. BUT, Disney should enforce their own rules. If they let things go, such as MDR dress code and children in adult areas, they have themselves to blame for people not following said rules. DCL does have every responsibility to all of its guests to enforce their policies on board.

So, instead of the back and forth of whose fault it is, I'd like to leave it at: everyone is responsible from the parents teaching their children to do the right thing to DCL enforcing their own rules.

i agree - which is why the captain of the RCCL ship who put the teen who violated curfew under room arrest was absolutely correct in doing so!!
a policy of zero tolerance is fair to all on board.

 

[Carys]

On my July Dream cruise, a couple of times adults brought their kids to the adults beach on Castaway Cay and got settled in for the day. The Men In White were good about discretely visiting them and steering them back to presumably the family beach.

 

[disneyholic family]

On my July Dream cruise, a couple of times adults brought their kids to the adults beach on Castaway Cay and got settled in for the day. The Men In White were good about discretely visiting them and steering them back to presumably the family beach.

That's just unbelievable to me.
What about "adults only" on the sign at the entrance isn't clear?????????

what is wrong with these people???????????????????????

 

[Bonniec]

I have kids but would be very irked to see kids in an adult area. While I do think that if you don't like children you should probably pick a different cruiseline, adults should have a place to escape for some peace if they want to.


It's the parents fault for not watching their kids. I would certainly never allow it. But Disney should enforce the rules. There are all types of people and some will take advantage if allowed. I also wouldn't think twice about pointing it out. My 2 cents.

 

[mom+3girls]

I am wondering about the other side of the coin. Both of my DDs will be with us and they will be 19 and 23 when we sail. I know they are going to want to hang out in the adult areas versus with all the kids. Both of them look YOUNG. The oldest looks younger than her sister. she will love that some day.

So I am hoping we are not given dirty looks and my DDs id is not constantly being checked. Once or twice - ok - i get it.. but more than that would really make them uncomfortable.

wondering if you have cruised yet and how it worked out, my DD (19) and I are cruising in Sept 2012 and I'm concerned about this for her, she looks about 12. I've told her just to make sure she has an ID with her.

 

[DMMarla07860]

wondering if you have cruised yet and how it worked out, my DD (19) and I are cruising in Sept 2012 and I'm concerned about this for her, she looks about 12. I've told her just to make sure she has an ID with her.

I've cruised ever year since I was 18, I am 24 now. People think I'm still 17 and in high school. I'd say carry a id around and your fine. That's what I do. Since I know at least one person will think I look young and I have been carded etc. when I cruised on Fantasy in April I actually had to go back and get my DL so I could get a drink lol

 

[mom+3girls]

I've cruised ever year since I was 18, I am 24 now. People think I'm still 17 and in high school. I'd say carry a id around and your fine. That's what I do. Since I know at least one person will think I look young and I have been carded etc. when I cruised on Fantasy in April I actually had to go back and get my DL so I could get a drink lol

That's funny that you had to do that to get a drink.
My daughter works for a daycare and really wants a break from children.

 

[ilovetexas]

I have never ever experienced drunk adults on Disney and I am very thankful.

I've been on two Disney cruises; a three day on Wonder and a seven day on Fantasy. Saw plenty of drunk adults on both.

As to the original question - I honestly don't recall kids being in places they shouldn't have been and the only "problems" I've had on DCL cruises have been other adults. Talking loudly (and non-stop) during shows, allowing their kids to go crazy in the MDR, cutting in lines, being rude to the CMs, etc. All things that we expect occasionally from kids, but assume adults know better. The kids seem to enjoy their vacation away from the adult stuff as much as possible and some parents seem to enjoy their vacation away from parenting as much as possible.

Obviously this isn't everyone on board, nor is it exclusive to DCL, but you've all seen it. I worry less about the kids on DCL and more about the adults!!

 

[TDC Nala]

One thing I noticed a lot on the Wonder was kids on the deck above the quiet cove pool, either looking down to see what fun they're missing out on down there, or looking down and yelling "MOM MOM MOM" trying to get their mom's attention. It was kind of disconcerting at times, but it didn't ruin the cruise for me or anything.

I remember being at a Palo brunch (either Magic or Wonder) and some kids apparently belonging to the couple next to our table showed up outside the window, banged on the window to get the parents' attention, apparently because they wanted something. One parent went out to talk to them, came back in and the kids stayed outside the window goofing around and pressing their hands and faces to the window. I think the manager finally said something to the parents.

 

[DMMarla07860]

That's funny that you had to do that to get a drink.
My daughter works for a daycare and really wants a break from children.

Well it was a beer so not surprised at all, and totally understand I was impressed, shows they have bartenders that won't server underage