Pea-n-Me
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More power to you.My wife and I did it in the 2010s. Times are only different if you let them be.
More power to you.My wife and I did it in the 2010s. Times are only different if you let them be.
Not every one can be Captain America. Sure hope none of your kids need you at any point in their life. Sometimes even the hardest working kids can't make it work out for a multitude of reasons.Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.
We're not talking here about adult children taking care of their elderly parents. We're talking about adult children being taken care of by their elderly parents. Grandma and Grandpa moving in with their daughter and her husband to help with the kids and receive elder care themselves? Awesome. Junior moving into his high school bedroom while he wastes his life with video games, social media, and pornography? Not awesome.
I'm two years younger than your oldest son.
I bought my first house in 2012 at 23. I bought my second house in 2014 at 25. I bought my third house in 2017 at 27. I bought my current house in 2020 at 30. My parents gave me $0 for any of this, and I paid off $30,000 of student loans and a $25,000 car loan in the meantime. I was married in 2011 and had kids in 2014, 2017, and 2020. The dirty little secret? None of this was particularly difficult.
"Young people" aren't nearly as hopeless as you suggest, and it's infantilizing to treat them as such.
Yep why pay those things twice if you all make it work.I understand your point, but it’s all relative today.
It’s also unhealthy to be unable to afford to live comfortably, to have a car that’s “found on road dead” and in the shop monthly, to not have some breathing room with bills, to have a credit score in the toilet, to not have some savings in the bank, and to not be able to buy healthy food at the supermarket, etc.
I moved out of my house at 18 and DH 23, and we made it work. That was in the early 80s. Times were different then. Regardless, it would’ve been beneficial long-term for us to save more by living at home first, but that wasn’t possible for me, so we got our own place. I wish things could’ve been different for us, but they weren’t. So BTDT.
Where we live, apartments are now crazy expensive, like $2000-3000/month.
And the average home price where we live is $800,000+
We’re not interested in moving somewhere else, so we have to make it work.
We want our kids to be able to BUY something of their own, not pad someone else’s pockets and never be able to save enough to get their own places, as prices are rising.
My DD is a college grad, works FT, is almost halfway through her master’s, has a good chunk of change put aside for a down payment for her own place, and has been stocking up on things for her own home, as well.
DS is also a college grad, working FT, had to take an additional course this year for his job of choice, and is waiting to take the licensing exam for that. Once done, he’ll be in the job he wants soon afterward. He’ll also be saving for something to buy.
We feel it would be dumb for them to be paying rent, at those costs, when they can live comfortably with us where we live. They each pay room and board, as well as their bills, drive decent cars, and help out around the house. Both also helped care for my elderly mother for many years, through her passing, when she lived with us, too. I can never repay them for that, but, to us, this is what families do. I don’t think they’re missing out on much, they have all the comforts of home and their boyfriend/girlfriend are welcome to stay over. We’re all adults. We are used to having an inter-generational home and it works for us. I do think that more people will be doing that as costs continue to skyrocket everywhere.
You and I are in a position where we can provide for our kids because we learned how to struggle and overcome adversity. I don't think it's wise to smooth over the rough spots for our kids if we want them to learn that same resiliency.Not every one can be Captain America. Sure hope none of your kids need you at any point in their life. Sometimes even the hardest working kids can't make it work out for a multitude of reasons.
I'll never agree. I will not see any one I know, especially my child and grandchild, living in a car on the street vs in my home, if I have a home. I don't know how anyone with a heart can.You and I are in a position where we can provide for our kids because we learned how to struggle and overcome adversity. I don't think it's wise to smooth over the rough spots for our kids if we want them to learn that same resiliency.
Maybe they learned to overcome adversity in ways different than we did.You and I are in a position where we can provide for our kids because we learned how to struggle and overcome adversity. I don't think it's wise to smooth over the rough spots for our kids if we want them to learn that same resiliency.
I'm with you here. I never went back after I moved out at 18. My parents charged me a weekly rent the day I turned 18, it wasn't much but it was enough to make me think, "shoot, if I'm going to have to pay rent and still follow their rules then I'm going to figure out how to get my own place so I can do what I want." and that is how I've lived my life. I found roommates and did whatever I had to do to afford to keep my freedom. I'll help my daughter to find safe places to live and teach her to start saving with an IRA from the moment she has her first job. The one thing I wish that my parents had done for me was make me start a savings plan and to pay myself first from day one. It would've made all the difference. Instead, I didn't discover IRA's until I was about 35 and I've worried about my future a lot. Paying yourself first is the most important thing in today's world where the old way of working one job and pension plans are almost non existent. Starting young is crucial.To be honest, I have not yet encountered such a situation. Perhaps a parent should help their child find a new place to live?
There's a huge difference in a child coming back to help the parents because they were raised to be respectful and caring of their elders and coming back for you to take care of them though.You man change your tune when you actually have adult kids and they hit a rough patch in life...or are you just going to tell them to live under a bridge? I'm not sure why it's unhealthy. In many cultures, families live together. They even take care of their elderly parents and grandparents.
If I used or implied the word "all," I shouldn't have, but I don't think I did. That said, I can read the statistics on video game consumption, pornography addiction, social media use, labor force participation, marriage, fertility, and so-on. No, not every adult who lives at home is lazy and sponging off of their parents, but lazy adults living at home and sponging off their parents is a huge problem that's contributing to societal decline.Maybe they learned to overcome adversity in ways different than we did.
You seem to think that all adult kids who live at home are lazy and sponging off their parents.
No times are definitely different now.My wife and I did it in the 2010s. Times are only different if you let them be.
No times are definitely different now.
Nobody said jr was moving into their adult parents and playing video games. Most of the posts were working adults saving up money living with their parents In 2008 my bil and sil lost their jobs and their house. They had to move in with her parents with three small kids It took him almost a year to find another job and another year to really get back on their feet.Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.
We're not talking here about adult children taking care of their elderly parents. We're talking about adult children being taken care of by their elderly parents. Grandma and Grandpa moving in with their daughter and her husband to help with the kids and receive elder care themselves? Awesome. Junior moving into his high school bedroom while he wastes his life with video games, social media, and pornography? Not awesome.
I'm two years younger than your oldest son.
I bought my first house in 2012 at 23. I bought my second house in 2014 at 25. I bought my third house in 2017 at 27. I bought my current house in 2020 at 30. My parents gave me $0 for any of this, and I paid off $30,000 of student loans and a $25,000 car loan in the meantime. I was married in 2011 and had kids in 2014, 2017, and 2020. The dirty little secret? None of this was particularly difficult.
"Young people" aren't nearly as hopeless as you suggest, and it's infantilizing to treat them as such.
Do you have proof of this? I know quite a few working adults living with their parents.If I used or implied the word "all," I shouldn't have, but I don't think I did. That said, I can read the statistics on video game consumption, pornography addiction, social media use, labor force participation, marriage, fertility, and so-on. No, not every adult who lives at home is lazy and sponging off of their parents, but lazy adults living at home and sponging off their parents is a huge problem that's contributing to societal decline.
I was replying to his statement that parents living with their children is unhealthy. That’s a broad statement to make. Some cultures they don’t “come back” because they never leave.There's a huge difference in a child coming back to help the parents because they were raised to be respectful and caring of their elders and coming back for you to take care of them though.
When your kids are babies you always think they are going to turn out perfect and never struggle in life. Unfortunately, life has its own plan and kids have their own minds.I'll never agree. I will not see any one I know, especially my child and grandchild, living in a car on the street vs in my home, if I have a home. I don't know how anyone with a heart can.
Exactly. I've gotten a lot of grief about sharing a rental house with my dad. But the reality is:I think it only becomes a problem when someone is being taken advantage of (like if the adult child is completely financially dependent on the parents with no intention of working or contributing in any way). That's the stereotype a lot of people think of when they hear of adult children living with their parents, but I don't think that's what the situation is in reality in most cases.
I do struggle to understand why our culture has put such a negative spin on it when in some cultures it’s the norm. What makes some folks think our way is THE way? Any other way is wrong?Exactly. I've gotten a lot of grief about sharing a rental house with my dad. But the reality is:
1. We each make decent money, but we also both prefer to live in the heart of the city, which is EXPENSIVE. We have a big house with plenty of room to each have our own space for way less than two separate broom closets would cost.
2. He retired on disability years ago (now old enough for regular retirement). He has some health problems that would make it tough to live alone. I take care of the stuff that he struggles with.
3. His health conditions don't (usually) preclude him from doing stuff around the house, and he LIKES to both be busy and feel needed. So no matter how many times I've told him it's not necessary, he enjoys cooking for me and taking care of a lot of the basic housework and all. And I work a lot of hours, so it definitely helps me out.
4. We both have good money coming in. We split the household expenses. When we vacation together, we each pay half. We take turns buying stuff that we both want, and we each buy the stuff that we individually want.
5. We're genuinely friends. We enjoy having each other around.
6. We have our own friends and our own lives as well. No different than any other roommate relationship.
I've been married. I've lived on my own. I'm perfectly capable of taking care of myself, and my dad certainly isn't supporting me. But the whole idea that living intergenerationally is inherently a bad thing just blows my mind.