Adult Autism Diagnosis?

To be clear I'm actually more comfortable interacting with new people as I can pretend easier.
What gives me more anxiety is having multiple people that I know coming over to my house. I'm one that will clean up the kitchen while everyone else is talking in the other room and then I'll go upstairs until it sounds like everyone is ready to leave and I'll come back down to say goodbye.
Or like last week I went to my sister's for a picnic and I stayed in one spot that I knew not many people would interact with me and quietly left.
One of my biggest times that I'm anxious in public is at the airport. Its stressful to wait in the security line and I don't like being so close to people on the plane. (I am not claustrophobic of the plane but just of not having enough personal space).
I actually find that when I'm surrounded by thousands of people like at Disney I feel more myself because I'm not being perceived by anyone.
Not sure how all that plays into it but what bothers me is that this professional has not asked me any questions related to this type of situation.
I think he has tried to make me feel uncomfortable with certain things he says and asks but I'm not going to outwardly act uncomfortable because I don't want to come across as rude but once we leave my mom and I were both like what the heck was xyz about that was a weird comment to make or weird question to ask.
And its like I KNOW that I'm not like everyone else but I feel like he is misunderstanding me to the point that he will determine there's "nothing" wrong with me.

(As an example of uncomfortable things... my email is my first and last name but because its tied into my youtube account after there are back and forth messages it pops up with that username. The other day instead of talking to me using my actual name he kept referring to me as my username which is very clearly a username not a name name. It felt very invasive and unprofessional.
Oh and he kept talking about various exercises I could do. This was after I had mentioned losing weight and walking being my choice of exercise and how I've tried other exercises but they tend to be too difficult to maintain but walking is what I can easily do and enjoy. It was like he wanted me to tell him no I don't want to do those things that you're mentioning but again that would be rude so it was a smile and nod.)
It sounds like you're describing that you're masking while in the appointment? If so, perhaps try to approach the upcoming appointment without masking during it. If he's asking you about exercises you're uncomfortable with, be honest about that.

If you don't feel like you're being heard, find another practitioner. Seek a second opinion. Some doctors are better than others at actually listening to their patients.
 
It sounds like you're describing that you're masking while in the appointment? If so, perhaps try to approach the upcoming appointment without masking during it. If he's asking you about exercises you're uncomfortable with, be honest about that.

If you don't feel like you're being heard, find another practitioner. Seek a second opinion. Some doctors are better than others at actually listening to their patients.

Thanks. Yeah I am definitely masking but its difficult to unmask even in front of my mom although through me discovering my autistic tendencies I've gotten better about telling her things that I do in the company of just my cats.
But see I thought that a professional was supposed to kind of understand/detect that I'm not going to act like my true authentic self because that's really hard to do unless I'm alone.
 
Update:
Went for my final appt today.
I decided to interject a lot more if we were talking about something and he did not ask me anything further I'd just blurt out what I felt was relevant before he decided to start a completely different conversation.
I was able to get a lot more info across that way.

One thing I wish I could go back and clear up is the anxiety questionnaire.
A lot of the questions were physical symptoms that you've experienced in the last month.
Well just because I got indigestion doesn't mean that it was anxiety related... it was what I ate.
And did I sweat in the past month? Yes because I was hot.
Have I felt unsteady on my feet in the past month? Yes because I'm just like that all the time has nothing to do with being anxious.
Me being anxious shows more shows up in my expressions and what I do like clench my jaw or pace or have the urge to hit a pillow and then take a nap.

Some things that I brought up in the email I sent apparently didn't get written anywhere so when I mentioned them again he was like OH WOW WELL THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

So in the end he says I have general anxiety and am just inside ASD.

Personally I think if we could have done some of the hands on eval that most people get he would have had zero doubts.

At least I feel more seen than I ever have before.
 

Good job advocating for yourself. Don't dismiss the anxiety diagnosis so readily, many who have anxiety don't realize it util it's properly treated and they feel better.

I've been told I have anxiety by my primary and was given medication for it.
Problem is the medication did nothing and I feel like I had good reason to be anxious since my mom's life was hanging in the balance and my primary was focusing on that instead of diagnosing a physical problem that was happening inside of my body that eventually I did get surgery for and felt much better.

And I do not disagree that I have anxiety but it seems to be the sole focus when I go to the doctor with a physical issue and its brushed off as anxiety.

I'm on edge on a daily basis with this weird feeling of "being in trouble" when I've done nothing wrong but I don't have huge fears of bad things happening or anything so its hard to explain that my anxiety is just this thing that lingers in the background vs being upfront until I encounter very specific situations like having to wait for an extended period of time like in a doctor's office or being worried I won't be somewhere on time like when I go to the airport and wait in the TSA line.

It was a nice change to walk into these appts and have the doctor see me within 2 minutes and then leave at the exact time we set forth.

I guess I just like predictability and fear not being able to predict timing of things.

Thinking about it yeah timing is probably my biggest anxiety inducer.

Timing of going to bed, timing of getting up, timing of how long it will take to exercise, timing of how long it will take to get ready to go somewhere, timing of when people are going to arrive which seems to be the most unpredictable. (My sister says she'll be here at 9am and rolls up at 9:25am when I was ready for her since 8:50am and then tells me well I was talking to the neighbor and said "around 9am".)

Wish I could have figured that out during the appt lol. He never asked what makes me anxious.
 
I've been told I have anxiety by my primary and was given medication for it.
Problem is the medication did nothing and I feel like I had good reason to be anxious since my mom's life was hanging in the balance and my primary was focusing on that instead of diagnosing a physical problem that was happening inside of my body that eventually I did get surgery for and felt much better.

And I do not disagree that I have anxiety but it seems to be the sole focus when I go to the doctor with a physical issue and its brushed off as anxiety.

I'm on edge on a daily basis with this weird feeling of "being in trouble" when I've done nothing wrong but I don't have huge fears of bad things happening or anything so its hard to explain that my anxiety is just this thing that lingers in the background vs being upfront until I encounter very specific situations like having to wait for an extended period of time like in a doctor's office or being worried I won't be somewhere on time like when I go to the airport and wait in the TSA line.

It was a nice change to walk into these appts and have the doctor see me within 2 minutes and then leave at the exact time we set forth.

I guess I just like predictability and fear not being able to predict timing of things.

Thinking about it yeah timing is probably my biggest anxiety inducer.

Timing of going to bed, timing of getting up, timing of how long it will take to exercise, timing of how long it will take to get ready to go somewhere, timing of when people are going to arrive which seems to be the most unpredictable. (My sister says she'll be here at 9am and rolls up at 9:25am when I was ready for her since 8:50am and then tells me well I was talking to the neighbor and said "around 9am".)

Wish I could have figured that out during the appt lol. He never asked what makes me anxious.
DD is on a mood regulator specifically approved for children on the spectrum, she has a therapist she's seen for several years that we saw monthly and now bi-monthly. We tried several medications before finding one that actually worked for her and her ability to cope and regulate is night and day after being on it. It's a process. I would recommend having a therapist you see regularly who can prescribe medication that way your emotional needs (therapist) and your physical needs (doctor) are being handled by the best sources. The therapist can also order tests for you such as bloodwork or make recommendations to your primary if they believe something needs to be addressed medically. Telemedicine is a great resource for this, it's easy, convenient, comfortable, and the time table is much more friendly if you have anxiety about that.
 
Update:
Went for my final appt today.
I decided to interject a lot more if we were talking about something and he did not ask me anything further I'd just blurt out what I felt was relevant before he decided to start a completely different conversation.
I was able to get a lot more info across that way.

One thing I wish I could go back and clear up is the anxiety questionnaire.
A lot of the questions were physical symptoms that you've experienced in the last month.
Well just because I got indigestion doesn't mean that it was anxiety related... it was what I ate.
And did I sweat in the past month? Yes because I was hot.
Have I felt unsteady on my feet in the past month? Yes because I'm just like that all the time has nothing to do with being anxious.
Me being anxious shows more shows up in my expressions and what I do like clench my jaw or pace or have the urge to hit a pillow and then take a nap.

Some things that I brought up in the email I sent apparently didn't get written anywhere so when I mentioned them again he was like OH WOW WELL THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

So in the end he says I have general anxiety and am just inside ASD.

Personally I think if we could have done some of the hands on eval that most people get he would have had zero doubts.

At least I feel more seen than I ever have before.
Glad you finally got the information and feel seen. A lot of what you described does sound like general or social anxiety, so that does seem fitting. There is a lot of crossover between anxiety, ADHD, and autism.
 
I've been told I have anxiety by my primary and was given medication for it.
Problem is the medication did nothing and I feel like I had good reason to be anxious since my mom's life was hanging in the balance and my primary was focusing on that instead of diagnosing a physical problem that was happening inside of my body that eventually I did get surgery for and felt much better.

And I do not disagree that I have anxiety but it seems to be the sole focus when I go to the doctor with a physical issue and its brushed off as anxiety.

I'm on edge on a daily basis with this weird feeling of "being in trouble" when I've done nothing wrong but I don't have huge fears of bad things happening or anything so its hard to explain that my anxiety is just this thing that lingers in the background vs being upfront until I encounter very specific situations like having to wait for an extended period of time like in a doctor's office or being worried I won't be somewhere on time like when I go to the airport and wait in the TSA line.

It was a nice change to walk into these appts and have the doctor see me within 2 minutes and then leave at the exact time we set forth.

I guess I just like predictability and fear not being able to predict timing of things.

Thinking about it yeah timing is probably my biggest anxiety inducer.

Timing of going to bed, timing of getting up, timing of how long it will take to exercise, timing of how long it will take to get ready to go somewhere, timing of when people are going to arrive which seems to be the most unpredictable. (My sister says she'll be here at 9am and rolls up at 9:25am when I was ready for her since 8:50am and then tells me well I was talking to the neighbor and said "around 9am".)

Wish I could have figured that out during the appt lol. He never asked what makes me anxious.
You sound a lot like me :). I’ve often wondered if I have OCD due to some of my anxiety around being on time and the unknown, or things needing to be a certain way.

My dr recommended I get tested for ADHD because the anti anxiety meds seem to not work for me either (well other than Xanax, but that’s not something I can take daily). They thought maybe some of my anxiety was really from ADHD. I never really stayed on the stimulants long enough to find out though.
 
I apologize this is really long… hopefully it explains some things that will help.
I feel like he has only been asking about was I obsessed with an odd toy as a child (like something that wasn't even a toy or wasn't a toy that a normal kid would be playing with for as long).
Or did I refuse to eat things as a child.
This is because Autism is primarily defined by when certain traits first appeared. It is a childhood condition/syndrome whose effects persist into adulthood.

I have two [adult] kids with autism.

The first was diagnosed with what was then still called infantile or Kanner’s Autism. The most severe type. He was informally diagnosed at about 14 months old (without the pediatrician telling me she had noted this) and he was given the full diagnosis at 20 months old by a child psychiatrist who looked over the notes and surveys the pediatrician had sent him, as well as the things they had me fill out ahead of time.

We showed up at the office and C was taken into a side room with a one way mirror I could watch him thru, and they attempted to administer what I call a “baby IQ test”. It was designed to look for cognitive delay. And even though I knew he was not “retarded” (still the term then)… that was the final result of that test: “Severely & profoundly retarded”. The words rang thru my brain like a cannon blast had gone off right next to me. They went on to tell me he was also severely autistic and to list all the things he would never do: he would never say mama or dada; he would never say he loved me; he would never meaningfully communicate his thoughts; he would never be able to emotionally self-regulate; he would never be potty-trained; he would never graduate high school… it went on and on and on.

I left crying so hard that it was upsetting C. We went home, and I poured over his baby book looking at the milestones he had already achieved (10-12 words— used repeatedly and appropriately— including mama, dada, baba, butz [bus], bawrr [ball], cat, tiss [kiss]…) but had lost several months before.

I called the early intervention program (EIP) and arranged for their evaluation and they enrolled him. They agreed with some things the psychiatrist had diagnosed, but they explained that because of how the test works (the scoring) he “failed” because he refused to do certain tasks in the time allotted. This meant he scored zero on most tasks which made him appear cognitively delayed.

EIP started him into three times weekly preschool plus speech therapy 2x weekly. Eventually, they referred us to the Neuropsychiatric Clinic at the children’s hospital. We met the greatest doctor there who started him on some meds and within weeks he was kind of a different kid. For one thing, he slept through the night for the first time ever at 3 years old!

Eventually, with lots of therapy and special education, he has gone on to become VERY high-functioning. He is very verbal, he says I love you all the time, he is potty-trained AND he not only graduated High School… he graduated from College with two degrees. He is even Married with a daughter!! His wife grew up with an autistic sister, so she understands his backward compliments that could seem offensive if you didn’t know better, and other quirks that she knows to ask what he means before assuming he’s being a jerk. Even his daughter is learning to ask him before getting her feelings hurt— a good life skill if you ask me. 🙃


Kid #2 (B) was harder. His symptoms were so, so different. His started with feeding difficulties as an infant and what we were told was OCD. We managed with EIP for speech delays that were thought to be a result of the feeding issues. And eventually trying medication and cognitive behavioral therapy for the OCD. He was hospitalized multiple times for the feeding problems, and was tube fed for a long time (3+ years).

Finally at age 9, his OCD was at a point where he could no longer function. He was put into an inpatient program and there he was diagnosed first with Asperger’s, and later Autism when they reviewed the case history and saw symptoms that appeared at ages 3-5.

As soon as he was admitted to the inpatient program, we notified the neuropsych clinic, and requested that C’s doc be involved in the dx. They were able to take him off all of his meds and put him on other, better, fewer meds while still an inpatient so the transition was a lot easier at home.

Of all the things I had prepared mentally for them to diagnose, Autism was definitely not on the list. Heck, I would’ve expected almost anything else. So I was very resistant to it. Not because of being in denial, but just because he was so completely different of a presentation than C.

Over time, I realized that there was actually a LOT in common. Things I hadn’t really seen, because we already knew how to cope with a lot of the rigid routines, & inability to shift from one activity to another, to name a couple.

He is also very high-functioning following so much time working on helping him re-train his brain. He has graduated HS and college and is also married. They still don’t know if they want to roll the dice on kids.

And my mom says she can't recall anything odd but she admits to me after the appt that she was working full time with 3 kids and kinda just did what she had to so doesn't really feel like she would have picked up on stuff.
This is understandable, especially trying to look back over 3 dozen years ago. I would bet that at the time she did notice some things that made her think 🤔 but if your behavior wasn’t completely up-ending the household, and she figured out how to get through it— I wouldn’t really think it’s that unusual that she wouldn’t recall it now. I find that trying to remember things that happened 15-20 years ago to my two youngest neurotypical kids is very difficult. And as happens to most later kids, their baby books are unfortunately incomplete. I find myself remembering things about my youngest in relationship to what was going on with their older brothers.

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So all of this is to say— the effect that Autism has in your life now is something that the psychiatrist can address later. If you want the diagnosis, the discussion is going to necessarily be centered on childhood, because that’s when Autism starts.

I get wanting the diagnosis. But in the end, psychiatrists medically manage mental health symptoms. The same symptoms can result from many different diagnoses. The treatment is virtually always the same no matter the etiology. Perseverance and inability to adapt thought processes is controlled primarily through using SSRI and other medications, followed by Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It doesn’t matter if this comes from AS disorders or from OCD or generalized Anxiety.

My advice is that you tell the psychiatrist that you want to discuss the effects you are experiencing and have experienced in your life at some point. Understand that the process has to follow a stepwise approach from childhood to adulthood. But you can let the Dr know that you’re somewhat anxious about your ongoing symptoms not being addressed. He should be willing to tell you when he will get to that discussion.

My boys’ psychiatrists don’t really even consider their Autism dx’s anymore. They look at what the symptoms are and the effects that has in their day to day life. Autism is just a footnote at this point.
 
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Hi, OP I just wanted to chime in to say that I'm currently going through this myself. I recently started attending therapy due to mental health stuff that I'm dealing with and upon the first visit, my therapist asked me if I had autism and I said no and they were like hmm....I think you should get diagnosed because you exhibit A LOT of the traits.

For context, my older sister was diagnosed with autism as a young child (don't know exact age, I would guess 4-5 years old?) and growing up people would always assume I acted "that way" (their words) because I was copying her like a younger sibling would. Throughout my childhood I always had this sense that something was "wrong" with me due to not being able to connect with other kids. Looking back, I really do wish I got help for it as I was sort of throw to the wolves to just....deal with it on my own and I didn't know how lol One of things I'm discussing with my therapist is how I have to unlearn the unhealthy coping mechanisms that I have adapted to (ex. alcohol when I became of age to drink).

When I was in my early 20s, I was diagnosed with ADHD but now I do wonder if that diagnosis should've been autism instead (though I am aware ADHD and autism are linked with one another and have overlapping symptoms).

I see in your other replies that you have anxiety and/or social anxiety and I can 100% relate to that. I often feel anxious even when there is NOTHING happening. I feel it physically; like I cannot relax myself no matter what I do and it's draining to feel that way all the time. My therapist told me during my last session that I could consider medication for that but I'm unsure if I want to do that tbh. I feel like my "problems" go beyond just taking medication and then it's all fine.

Don't really have a point to make here, just wanted to say that overall I relate to what you're going through and I hope you get the treatment you need to cope with it.
 















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